Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[titanic2187]

 

James Cameron's film sixth win in Best VFX

[Sheldon Cr]

22 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

 

James Cameron's film sixth win in Best VFX

Just amazing achievement  titanic2187.

 

Meanwhile .....

 

 

 

...Mario hits a 92 m second weekend.  What is going on here lol

 

 

[GOGODanca]

From consternation about 2b break even point to avatar 2 become the most profitable film of 2022

[kayumanggi]

 

[interiorgatordecorator]

2 hours ago, kayumanggi said:

 

 

so its a worldwide thing for earthday?

 

[kayumanggi]

15 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

so its a worldwide thing for earthday?

 

 

I'm not sure about this.

Edited April 19, 2023 by kayumanggi

[kayumanggi]

 

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[KP1025]

#1 as expected. That production cost looks crazy, but I wonder it includes the cost of filming Avatar 3 in conjunction?

[ThomasNicole]

10 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

 

Not Cameron and Landau taking 300M in participations lol, and even with that Disney still gets 531M

 

+800M of profit, insane 

 

I even think they´re underestimating those home entertaining, the movie is doing insanely well on PVOD and i bet it will be big when they drop the 4K Blu-Rays. But since the run on home entertaining just started, it´s normal that they throw a lower prediction.

[Mojoguy]

$300m participation for Cameron and Landau! Dammmmmn!

 

Bigger than even TGM $280m participation which was split between Cruise, Kosinski, McQuarrie, and Bruckheimer.

 

But look at those Avatar profits! Crazy!

Edited April 19, 2023 by Mojoguy

[GOGODanca]

Home Entertainment seems low

[elcaballero]

23 minutes ago, KP1025 said:

#1 as expected. That production cost looks crazy, but I wonder it includes the cost of filming Avatar 3 in conjunction?

My understanding was that a lot of it is, but I have no how it's being amortized over the sequels. Seems pretty safe to say Avatar 3's budget will be reported as massive as well.

[PlatnumRoyce]

1 hour ago, GOGODanca said:

Home Entertainment seems low

I don't get how Home Entertainment be so low when home video costs are pinned at 100M. You're supposed to see 1/3 of home video go to home video costs not 2/3rds (and even that is by industry consensus as exaggeration of physical media costs. home entertainment also includes some digital transactions). 

[PlatnumRoyce]

So let's see what the actual breakeven point was according to Deadline:

 

(1) let's pretend participations are a flat 18.5% of first dollar gross (300/total revenue) - I might use 20% for ease of math.

(2) theatrical = 80% of overall revenue (subtracting video costs from video revenue for ease of math).

 

 [Revenue] = [Rentals] * 5/4

[Costs] = 687 + .185* [revenue]

Revenue = costs at 674M in theatrical rentals / 843M in overall revenue.

Given that Deadline thinks Disney took in 54/55% of box office revenue, that translates to an estimated 1.231B breakeven point

Edited April 19, 2023 by PlatnumRoyce

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. Edited April 19, 2023 by kayumanggi

[titanic2187]

3 hours ago, kayumanggi said:

 

Thanks to JC himself who misled the whole situation, many people really believe the movie needs $2bn to break even. That talk of $2bn break even point even cast some shadow to movie's buzz after OW underperformance. 

[setna]

4 hours ago, Mojoguy said:

$300m participation for Cameron and Landau! Dammmmmn!

 

Bigger than even TGM $280m participation which was split between Cruise, Kosinski, McQuarrie, and Bruckheimer.

 

But look at those Avatar profits! Crazy!

 

Cameron received already 240 M for Avatar 1, so it´s not so much if he had to split with Landau, unless, 95 % is for him

[nydedan]

james cameron you will always be famous