redfirebird2008 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Name one. Seriously, tell me a major studio film that was made in the hopes that they would NOT make money for the studio, Tarkovsky's Stalker. Good luck proving that it was a cash grab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Angels and Demons collapsing hard says other-otherwise. Angels and Demons sold 1/3 of the books DVC did. It's good to look at the article on BOM. That explains it really well. While Mona Lisa might frown at the more earthly sum, The Da Vinci Code sequel Angels & Demons uncovered a spirited $46.2 million on approximately 7,000 screens at 3,527 sites, leading the weekend ahead of a storming Star Trek. Overall weekend business rang in at more than $137 million, which was a four percent improvement over the same weekend last year but not among the best showings for the timeframe. Three years ago, The Da Vinci Code blazed into 3,735 theaters with a $77.1 million opening, ultimately grossing $217.5 million (not to mention another $540.7 million overseas, and Angels & Demons is on track to have a similar domestic-to-foreign ratio with its $102.1 million foreign take). Based on one of the biggest-selling novels of all time and embroiled in controversy, Da Vinci was a unique phenomenon. No adult-oriented thriller had such a first weekend high before or since. It was never in the cards for Angels & Demons to come close to Da Vinci http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2587&p=.htm Edited November 23, 2014 by James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatebox Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 The Dark Knight movies weren't cash grabs. WB just really, really wanted to tell a story about a guy who dressed up as a Bat. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Angels and Demons is nowhere near the cultural and WW phenom that DVC was. This. In fact, Angels and Demons was published before DVC. Just after DVC success in both book sales and box office, Angels and Demons was done. It has similarities to Middle Earth case. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) The Artist is a cash grab. So is ET So is WallE So is every film in the history of film. Hollywood is a business. When it gets naked enough that moviegoers with some degree of intelligence feel that said intelligence is being insulted, a movie WILL suffer to some degree. Not always as much as said film deserves, but the Spider-Man reboot, Hobbit 2, Pirates 4, Transformers 4 all show that some of the audience either knew they were being played and rejected the product, or didn't show up because the attempts to play them backfired by only producing apathy. Audiences are not as stupid as some would think. These films still made money, but there have to have been people who thought, "And just WHY do I need to see this, anyway?" Edited November 23, 2014 by TServo2049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Tarkovsky's Stalker. Good luck proving that it was a cash grab. So the best you could come up with is a Russian film made in 1979? I rest my case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 So the best you could come up with is a Russian film made in 1979? I rest my case. Clockwork Orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 This is the last weekend thread on this forum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatebox Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 So the best you could come up with is a Russian film made in 1979? I rest my case. Do David Lynch movies count? His recent producers joke in on-set interviews that they'll be lucky to make their money back, but they just love working with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Name one. Seriously, tell me a major studio film that was made in the hopes that they would NOT make money for the studio, Just because films are meant to make money does not make them a "cash grab". A cash grab is something made purely for money, with no care for the quality of the product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Name one. Seriously, tell me a major studio film that was made in the hopes that they would NOT make money for the studio, THE HOBBIT trilogy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 When it gets naked enough that moviegoers with some degree of intelligence feel that said intelligence is being insulted, a movie WILL suffer to some degree. Not always as much as said film deserves, but the Spider-Man reboot, Hobbit 2, Pirates 4, Transformers 4 all show that some of the audience either knew they were being played and rejected the product, or didn't show up because the attempts to play them backfired by only producing apathy. I don't disagree with some of this but you can't say that audiences rejected Trf4 or Pirates 4. A billion dollars says otherwise. The Spiderman reboot, imo, sucked and the Hobbits are shells of the other films, but again, they are making close to a billion dollars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Hollywood might be a business, but that doesn't mean every movie ever made is a cash grab. There are plenty of art films out there that are about as far from a cash grab as you can get. But every studio plans on making a profit from the movie unless it is independently funded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Clockwork Orange. Cash grab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichWS Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 This is the last weekend thread on this forum. Daaamn, son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Also, Angels and Demons partly collapsed on domestic "buyer's remorse" about the first film. Domestic audiences showed up out of the goodwill of DVC the book, and were roundly disappointed by the film. Does nobody remember the complaints that the film was dull, that Tom Hanks seemed to be on the verge of falling asleep, and so on? Edited November 23, 2014 by TServo2049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 there are different levels of cashgrab though, i'm pretty sure when anyone uses the phrase cashgrab they think the product is at "fuck you, you'll see it" level. it's pretty easy to understand. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Just because films are meant to make money does not make them a "cash grab". A cash grab is something made purely for money, with no care for the quality of the product. That's not true at all. How do you know that the studio cares about the quality of the film? All they want is the money that comes with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 This. In fact, Angels and Demons was published before DVC. Just after DVC success in both book sales and box office, Angels and Demons was done. It has similarities to Middle Earth case. It's kinda similar to Narnia. How The Wardrobe movie is always done first even though it shouldn't be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 OMG Guardians will probably be #1 domestically. Mockingjay needs to have Catching Fire legs to defeat Guardians, I don't thinm that'll happen due to the mixed reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
