How HV sales used to turn big box office hits into massive box office GIANTS

[kowhite]

As I said, Frozen was just an anomaly, the last taste of dead era.

Animated princesses.

That's the ticket. Tangled, even fucking Princess and the Frog. These all continue to sell well. Everything else? Not really.

Animated princesses. That's the ticket.

[The Futurist]

Animated princesses.

That's the ticket. Tangled, even fucking Princess and the Frog. These all continue to sell well. Everything else? Not really.

Animated princesses. That's the ticket.

 

Got it.

Numbers will go down for these princess too.

I mean we are not very far from getting the Matrix treatment, like the Internet plugged into our cortex, Google, Apple, Amazon, Neflix, Samsung, Facebook guys probably have meetings about this as I speak. 

[kowhite]

You are right, they will go down.

It's all going down. No question about that.

Hollywoods problem isn't if it will, but how to profit as much on the decline. Cause zero is inevitable in the long run for physical media.

[Mojoguy]

I guess it won't matter how early the video release is for Frozen 2. It is going to be waaay more frontloaded than the first. Not a word I would ever associate with Frozen until now.

 

Hope they release something like Walking With Dinosaurs a few weeks after Frozen 2, because seeing Frozen destroy the first Dinosaurs was fun.

[Mojoguy]

Wow, TV seasons sell piss poor on video. Also Frozen is still up there while BH6 is gone, and Cinderella is bombing on video.

United States Combined DVD and Blu-ray Sales Chart for Week Ending September 27, 2015

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Chart Index

Rank	Title	Units this Week	Total Units	Spending this Week	Total Spending	Weeks
1	Pitch Perfect 2	973,832	973,832	$16,763,635	$16,763,635	4	Buy
2	Furious 7	514,261	2,383,661	$9,040,314	$40,933,156	5	Buy
3	Cinderella	214,318	1,154,739	$4,066,448	$21,283,857	2	Buy
4	Mad Max: Fury Road	69,263	1,518,107	$1,563,498	$34,818,781	7	Buy
5	Pitch Perfect Aca-Amazing 2-Movie Collection	48,155	48,155	$1,365,248	$1,365,248	1	Buy
6	The Big Bang Theory Season 8	40,730	148,772	$1,250,212	$4,372,300	2	Buy
7	Hotel Transylvania	39,864	4,389,831	$358,537	$82,937,075	139	Buy
8	Home	38,056	2,458,548	$532,901	$46,187,184	14	Buy
9	The Flash: The Complete First Season	37,681	37,681	$1,591,608	$1,591,608	1	Buy
10	Hocus Pocus	37,488	2,726,885	$207,003	$20,911,268	695	Buy
11	Arrow: The Complete Third Season	32,233	32,233	$1,352,073	$1,352,073	1	Buy
12	The Age of Adaline	30,707	304,750	$493,656	$4,886,732	5	Buy
13	Pitch Perfect	27,210	7,104,266	$288,164	$118,075,172	145	Buy
14	Fast & Furious 1-7 Collection	24,061	85,873	$1,318,095	$4,777,844	2	Buy
15	Insurgent	19,924	1,475,047	$348,302	$23,694,179	10	Buy
16	Chain of Command	17,916	17,916	$217,574	$217,574	3	Buy
17	Descendants	17,804	507,535	$302,490	$7,652,371	9	Buy
18	Beetlejuice	16,801	1,862,665	$70,040	$10,886,231	945	Buy
19	Empire: The Complete First Season	16,002	36,753	$408,533	$1,086,164	2	Buy
20	Barbie in Rock'n Royals	15,024	124,077	$202,469	$1,667,309	6	Buy
21	The Walking Dead: The Complete Fifth Season	14,648	427,349	$445,670	$11,490,409	5	Buy
22	Texas Rising	14,596	103,867	$275,771	$1,969,968	4	Buy
23	Star Wars Trilogy	14,498	2,117,320	$730,667	$163,147,964	575	Buy
24	American Sniper	13,756	3,338,646	$197,671	$58,459,492	19	Buy
25	Interstellar	13,646	2,077,041	$156,220	$36,411,666	28	Buy
26	Frozen	13,159	19,251,465	$278,791	$358,180,328	80	Buy
27	The Maze Runner	12,601	2,107,906	$170,629	$35,263,312	41	Buy
28	Hot Pursuit	12,515	478,493	$252,720	$8,964,265	9	Buy
29	The Hundred-Foot Journey	12,365	809,190	$155,870	$14,901,676	43	Buy
30	Supernatural: The Complete Tenth Season	11,645	88,242	$340,907	$2,538,618	3	Buy

 

[langer]

FF7 sales...

 

DVD this week: -66%

Blu-ray this week: -76%

 

Honestly if we'd move 4-5 weeks forward then Furious 7 will have just around 50M from DVD / blu and will be waiting for maybe some minor Xmas boost. And FF8. Laughable.

 

Yep looks like I overestimated the HV market of 2015.  I thought 2014 (aside form Frozen) and first half of 2015 was bad because we didn't have any animated mega blockbuster in 2014 as well as any live action mega blockbuster, but seeing F&F and Pitch Perfect 2 underperforming really shows a pattern. 

 

While I don't think F&F7 will be at 50M in 5-6 weeks (more like 60M), thanksgiving and Christmas should push it to 70-75M and then no more boost until FF8 comes out. 

 

All our hope lies with JW, Minions and Inside Out for the rest of the year. 

[Giesi]

Where can I find HV numbers for the Star Wars Prequels?

[bapi]

Where can I find HV numbers for the Star Wars Prequels?

Don't think you can find accurate numbers online. Just year numbers from Lee's Movie Info:

 

2005: Revenge of the Sith - 269M (DVD)

 

2002: Attack of the Clones - 144.8M (DVD) + 43.3M (VHS)

 

2000 (no 1999 numbers unfortunately): The Phantom Menace - 133.4M (VHS)

Edited October 15, 2015 by bapi

[CJohn]

RIP homevideo releases

[bapi]

So opening week numbers for Age of Ultron are in:

 

DVD  -  7.3M (-80% down from TA1)

 

Blu-ray  -  22.0M (-65% down from TA1)

[Mojoguy]

So opening week numbers for Age of Ultron are in:

 

DVD  -  7.3M (-80% down from TA1)

 

Blu-ray  -  22.0M (-65% down from TA1)

Big decrease.

 

And that's dollars, not units sold. AoU sold 1.6m combined units in its first week.

 

People realized how much AoU sucked.

Edited October 20, 2015 by Mojoguy

[Olive]

still more than what 95% other movies sold...

[langer]

So opening week numbers for Age of Ultron are in:

 

DVD  -  7.3M (-80% down from TA1)

 

Blu-ray  -  22.0M (-65% down from TA1)

 

Please remember that AoU was released on a Friday while most HV are released on Tuesday.  So these figures are for a 3 day week total.  Adjusted for a 7 day week, this would have probably made 10M$ DVD and 30M$ Blu ray at the least.  Underwhelming, but not as much as -80% or -65%. 

[Mojoguy]

Please remember that AoU was released on a Friday while most HV are released on Tuesday.  So these figures are for a 3 day week total.  Adjusted for a 7 day week, this would have probably made 10M$ DVD and 30M$ Blu ray at the least.  Underwhelming, but not as much as -80% or -65%. 

Not necessarily.

 

If someone can't buy a movie on Tuesday, they can wait and get it on the weekend. It is not like the movie was any kind of an exclusive or sold at just one store. The increases in units sold would have been minimum or none at all.

Also the charts end on Sundays so the first Avengers just had 3 extra days, not 4 over AoU.

[langer]

Not necessarily.

 

If someone can't buy a movie on Tuesday, they can wait and get it on the weekend. It is not like the movie was any kind of an exclusive or sold at just one store. The increases in units sold would have been minimum or none at all.

Also the charts end on Sundays so the first Avengers just had 3 extra days, not 4 over AoU.

 

You're right about 3 extra days and not 4.

 

Although I don't think I follow you on your first statement...Are you saying that if AoU was released on the previous Tuesday, it would have sold the same  # of units in its first 6 days than it currently sold in its first 3 days with a Friday release?   What do you mean by minimal?  1%-5% more?  10-15% more?  25% like I said? 

[Mojoguy]

You're right about 3 extra days and not 4.

 

Although I don't think I follow you on your first statement...Are you saying that if AoU was released on the previous Tuesday, it would have sold the same  # of units in its first 6 days than it currently sold in its first 3 days with a Friday release?   What do you mean by minimal?  1%-5% more?  10-15% more?  25% like I said? 

I'll agree that the two Avengers movies are not a good comparison since they weren't released on Tuesday, but I don't think it would have increased that much. AoU being released on a Friday means there would have been more of a rush to buy it. All I'm saying is that we probably won't be getting a good idea about how much AoU ends up with until a few weeks from now.

[langer]

I'll agree that the two Avengers movies are not a good comparison since they weren't released on Tuesday, but I don't think it would have increased that much. AoU being released on a Friday means there would have been more of a rush to buy it. All I'm saying is that we probably won't be getting a good idea about how much AoU ends up with until a few weeks from now.

 

Agreed,  I think it will end up close to 100M combined, might even miss it. 

[Olive]

Top-Selling Video Titles in the United States 2014

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Rank	Title	Units Sold	Total Consumer Spending
1	Frozen	18,128,222	$334,857,040	Buy
2	The Hunger Games: Catching Fire	6,241,620	$111,323,718	Buy
3	Guardians of the Galaxy	5,309,397	$95,712,733	Buy
4	The Lego Movie	4,859,897	$105,023,362	Buy
5	The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug	4,659,008	$94,931,702	Buy
6	Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles	3,634,195	$79,479,982	Buy
7	How to Train Your Dragon 2	3,633,780	$61,560,904	Buy
8	Maleficent	3,621,600	$66,328,883	Buy
9	Transformers: Age of Extinction	3,544,792	$57,250,465	Buy
10	Thor: The Dark World	3,461,327	$64,417,708	Buy
11	Despicable Me 2	3,398,015	$52,558,003	Buy
12	Gravity	2,957,841	$52,399,337	Buy
13	Captain America: The Winter Soldier	2,939,679	$52,007,945	Buy
14	Divergent	2,909,113	$50,007,479	Buy
15	Lone Survivor	2,805,266	$44,701,298	Buy
16	Rio 2	2,669,005	$50,192,032	Buy
17	X-Men Days of Future Past	2,614,399	$58,629,009	Buy
18	The Amazing Spider-Man 2	2,162,002	$44,337,541	Buy
19	Dawn of the Planet of the Apes	2,154,069	$33,204,884	Buy
20	The Fault in Our Stars	2,113,054	$38,519,609	Buy

 

[jimisawesome]

I don't blame Netflix.

This was inevitable. You buy movies so the movies you love are at your fingertips.

But the internet said...they're at your fingertips, always...and you don't need to buy them. It had to go this way.

 

The move to the internet might have been inevitable, Netflix used predatory pricing to build their marketshare they still cant make money from streaming and have yet again pushed back when they will hit profitability.  Not to completely let the studios off the hook as they where idiots by allowing Netflix to devalue the studios product just for a short term boost. 

[AJG]

So opening week numbers for Age of Ultron are in:

DVD - 7.3M (-80% down from TA1)

Blu-ray - 22.0M (-65% down from TA1)

Wasn't this released a month earlier online?

Over here Disney promoted the VOD. The DVD was like an afterthought.

Edited October 20, 2015 by AJG