Thursday numbers: IO 7.7,JW 6.8,TG 6.3, MM2 5.7 (Gopher strikes again)

[stripe]

TG

 

8.9M

6.3M

9.5M

7M

8M

 

Around 40M 5day

 

More or less the same as Public Enemies that closed its run with 97M

[babz06]

So this might turn to be like last 4th Of July Weekend and be boring. Now let's hope those little yellow things light things up.

fourth of july weekend has been such a bummer these past few years. Should have put Minions, Pixels or MI:5 there, i dont know why studios scheduled so many releases at the end of july. 

TED 2 should not have had it's release date to itself either.

Edited July 3, 2015 by babz06

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JW

6.8M

 

11M

9M

11M

 

31M weekend

 

 

IO

7.7M

 

11.5M

9.5M

11M

 

32M

[a2k]

 

Eek @ that Terminator number

 

Your profile pic is a good reaction Terminator's bo.

[Quigley]

So we can assume it's another IO vs JW wknd with IO having the edge this time (most likely)?

[narniadis]

Wow did not expect Mike to fold that much....

[Fake]

So I guess IO is winning the weekend.....

Fri - 12m (+55%)

Sat - 8m (-33%)

Sun - 9m (+12%)

Total - 29m

JW will be a close second:

Fri - 11m (+62%)

Sat - 7.5m (-32%)

Sun - 9m (+20%)

Total - 27.5m

TG should do around 23m and MM2 20m.

A July weekend with no movie over 30m...... how pathetic!

[a2k]

TG

 

8.9M

6.3M

9.5M

7M

8M

 

Around 40M 5day

 

More or less the same as Public Enemies that closed its run with 97M

 

Having an in-built audience this should have worse legs.

[Bender]

Great for IO and JW, bad for the newcomers... 

[GregBeuke]

So $37m 5 day for Terminator: Abysmal

And $33m 5 day for Magic Mike XXL?

My guesses for totals are: $85m for Terminator and $75m for Magic Mike.

Budgets: Terminator $170m (Ha) Magic Mike XXL $15m.

Not that it matters, but Terminator Genisys official budget after tax credits was 155 million. I still think Genisys it does 30 million this weekend and over 100 million worldwide by Monday. The movie won't be considered a hit, but it won't be a massive failure when it's all said and done either. It will likely put up near Pacific Rim/Edge of Tomorrow domestic/worldwide totals and this movie cost 20-45 million less.

Edited July 3, 2015 by gb0708

[Krissykins]

Magic Mike 1 fell 42% on its second day (a Saturday)

Still managed a 2.9x multiplier strangely.

[Krissykins]

Not that it matters, but Terminator Genisys official budget after tax credits was 155 million. I still think Genisys does 30 million weekend and over 100 million worldwide by Monday. The movie won't be considered a hit, but it won't be a massive failure when it's all said and done either. It will likely put up near Pacific Rim/Edge of Tomorrow domestic/worldwide totals and this movie cost 20-45 million less.

Remember studios take home less of the international gross. If Terminator does $85m in the U.S., it'll need to do over $300m internationally not to be considered a bomb.

[GregBeuke]

Remember studios take home less of the international gross. If Terminator does $85m in the U.S., it'll need to do over $300m internationally not to be considered a bomb.

I think it will do closer to 90-95 million domestic and maybe slightly more(Paramount will keep in in theaters for a while to make every dollar possible), but near 300 million internationally is possible with China. It's not going to do well enough to make the sequels happen. But I don't see as one of the massive bombs of the year. More on par with what we saw with Pacific Rim and Edge of Tomorrow over the last two years. IMO it was a mistake even making this movie for 155 million. With the way Arnold movies has struggled domestically, even going back to the late 90s. They should have kept the budget closer to 110 million dollar budget like San Andreas had. Even if they had to cut down on some of the CGI with the John Connor character. Then if the movie was a hit they could have increased the budget for the sequels.

Edited July 3, 2015 by gb0708

[Boxofficerules]

Where is your PG13 rating now Terminator!

[pepsa]

So I guess IO is winning the weekend.....

Fri - 12m (+55%)

Sat - 8m (-33%)

Sun - 9m (+12%)

Total - 29m

JW will be a close second:

Fri - 11m (+62%)

Sat - 7.5m (-32%)

Sun - 9m (+20%)

Total - 27.5m

TG should do around 23m and MM2 20m.

A July weekend with no movie over 30m...... how pathetic!

 

Their will be atleast one ... 

[goldenstate5]

I am SUPER glad Uni did not release Minions this weekend, but oh man they totally should have. Missed opportunity right here.

[GregBeuke]

Where is your PG13 rating now Terminator!

It's not like if it was R it would be performing better lol. If you add gore on a few scenes and another f-bomb it doesn't change much. The whole PG-13/R stuff is just nonsense. Majority of americans just don't want to pay to see Arnold as a lead in a movie anymore. That is why the movie is struggling the way it is, even as a Terminator movie. That said more of Arnold older fans will be out over the weekend. So I do expect a increase. But If they were going to go with 155 million dollar PG-13 action movie like they did. They should have casted a big name younger actor to co-lead this with Arnold. Emilia Clarke, Jason Clarke and Jai Courtney aren't going to get butts in the seats. This movie needed another attraction to go along with Arnold for it to sell the way they wanted it too.

Edited July 3, 2015 by gb0708

[Boxofficerules]

It's not like if it was R it would be performing better lol. If you add gore on a few scenes and another f-bomb it doesn't change much. The whole PG-13/R stuff is just nonsense.

But this sold out to PG13 to insure profibility, it just makes its failure more embarrassing. Maybe if it was rated R people may have been more willing to give it a chance. Also, if it was written and made for an R rating we may have gotten a different movie that wasn't desperately trying to appeal to the Marvel crowd and maybe that movie would have had better trailers and marketing.

Yeah, if you took this exact same movie and added some CGI blood and one or two extra F bombs it probably wouldn't be doing as well.

A perfect example is the Terminator Salvation script. The original R rated script was decent, a lot better than what we got but they totally fucked it up trying to appeal to everyone. Maybe if they had stuck to it the final product would have done better.

[GregBeuke]

But this sold out to PG13 to insure profibility, it just makes its failure more embarrassing. Maybe if it was rated R people may have been more willing to give it a chance. Also, if it was written and made for an R rating we may have gotten a different movie that wasn't desperately trying to appeal to the Marvel crowd and maybe that movie would have had better trailers and marketing.

Yeah, if you took this exact same movie and added some CGI blood and one or two extra F bombs it probably wouldn't be doing as well.

A perfect example is the Terminator Salvation script. The original R rated script was decent, a lot better than what we got but they totally fucked it up trying to appeal to everyone. Maybe if they had stuck to it the final product would have done better.

It still wouldn't have mattered with the grosses. If you got Arnold as a lead in a Terminator movie at near 70 years old the market is going to be limited domestically. Even the R rated Expendables 1-2 movies or PG-13 first Red movie shows the market for these old action guys these days top out at 85-100 million range(while the terrible R rated 5th Die Hard topped out at 67 million with a February release. If it's released in the summer it probably makes it to 80-85 million too). Which is what this movie will probably finish at as well. So if they couldn't get another star/big name to star alongside Arnold, they should have made this movie for closer to 110 million. It wouldn't have matter if they rated it R like the Expendables or PG-13 like Red. Unless there's a strong demand for a movie like Indy back in 08 or Star Wars now. You can't have your lead pushing 70 and have this high of budget for a movie. Unless you a have a Chris Pratt or The Rock or heck even Chris Pine starring alongside with him. Younger audiences don't care for Jason Clarke or Jai Courtney, so the movie just becomes all about Arnold then.

Edited July 3, 2015 by gb0708

[Asyulus]

Nice drop for MM, very surprised.