cdsacken Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said: I subconsciously docked it a lot the first time for not doing anything to advance any larger MCU cosmic plots points, but with some more distance and removed from those expectations it moves along reasonably well and has some hard hitting emotional moments. Pretty much my exact thoughts just said much more eloquently. I just really liked the first soo much. My wife doesn't really like superhero type films and that was her favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, RealLyre said: it almost makes people think it's a movie worth fighting over People often cling to things that are far from reality. Massive superman fan and that film was such a disappointment. Directors cut any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, cdsacken said: People often cling to things that are far from reality. Massive superman fan and that film was such a disappointment. Directors cut any better? Is it better to subject yourself to 150 minutes of 4/10 quality or 180 minutes of 5/10 quality? Open philosophical question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said: Is it better to subject yourself to 150 minutes of 4/10 quality or 180 minutes of 5/10 quality? Open philosophical question. .....tough question. I really wanted to like that movie ..but not sure I want to waste 3 hours for a marginal difference. Like if it went from 4 to 6.5 then hells yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 5 hours ago, dashrendar44 said: That's not a response to my question. I'm not really familiar with CM so I really don't know the answer. But as far as I can see heroes in MCU don't have a problem killing people and that's fine with me. Superman and Batman has morality issues like Batman doesn't kill but in BvS he literally massacres. Same with Supes in MoS. That is why people have problem with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ororo Munroe Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 I don't think the issue with MoS is so much about people taking issue with Superman killing as it is that the movie itself simply isn't that entertaining. After all, the general audience doesn't really care about canon or being faithful to comics...they want an enjoyable movie experience above all else. That is the difference between MoS and CM. Whether you personally like CM or not, the vast majority see it as a good time at the movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 For me it was both. He never should have killed him and it wasn't that entertaining. I still liked MoS but it was too grim and left me feeling meh after. Wife actually straight up disliked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 8 hours ago, dashrendar44 said: But see how she destroyed that whole Kree armada without breaking a sweat even though those vessels were full of Kree. That's what happened in MOS when Superman just destroyed the last Krypton ships. Just like she obliterated every one of her Kree former squad "friends"without any moral quandary. I am not really sure if you have seen CM as there are mistakes in this statement. But as the explanation for that is full of spoilers, I'll answer this in the spoiler thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Superman should have let Zod kill people. That's what good guys do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telcontar Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 15 hours ago, Napoleon said: This is completely false. Snyder fans have always been very supportive of all the DCEU movies. Only if they can give the credit to Snyder somehow. Like WW was secretly directed by Snyder, so it's good. Snyder helped Wan to direct Aquaman, so it turned out good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdsacken Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 That scene never should have existed, certainly not the end like that. It was so bad. That director was god awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2kt09 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, dashrendar44 said: But see how she destroyed that whole Kree armada without breaking a sweat even though those vessels were full of Kree. That's what happened in MOS when Superman just destroyed the last Krypton ships. Just like she obliterated every one of her Kree former squad "friends"without any moral quandary. Cosmic MCU I've learned is very kill count heavy. You've got mythical figures annhilating practically every realm, pirate bounty hunters doing what pirate bounty hunters do, and now CM, which I haven't gotten around to. In MoS, weren't the last remaining other Kryptonians evil? They won't waiver on making a new home even if another lifeform goes endangered/extinct. That's where movies like WW & Aquaman come across as killing living non-zombie things for the sake of doing action scenes. 4 hours ago, Nero said: I'm not really familiar with CM so I really don't know the answer. But as far as I can see heroes in MCU don't have a problem killing people and that's fine with me. In her other adaptations, she's either an uptight Captain America (a strict/stern school teacher) OR the female equivalent of Hulk (yes, I know She-Hulk...but She-Hulk is more 'zen' than MS MARVEL) Edited March 24, 2019 by 2kt09 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Napoleon said: Superman should have let Zod kill people. That's what good guys do. Mission accomplished. 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnDr3s Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 this is pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 18 hours ago, telcontar said: Only if they can give the credit to Snyder somehow. Like WW was secretly directed by Snyder, so it's good. Snyder helped Wan to direct Aquaman, so it turned out good. There is a movie to be made that is right up Snyders street and it doesn't need any permissions from DC or WB.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penthesilea_(Kleist) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabiopazzo2 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 so thanks to my cousin tonight I'll see Shazam... the first good DCU movie since Wondy? Who know we will see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddemaxus Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Holy shit Zack Snyder seems to have finally snapped: Quote “Someone says to me: [Ben Affleck’s] Batman killed a guy. I’m like, F**k, really? Wake the f**k up,” Snyder said. “I guess that’s what I’m saying. Once you lost your virginity to this fucking movie and then you come and say to me something about like ‘my superhero wouldn’t do that.’ I’m like ‘Are you serious?’ I’m like down the f**king road on that. It’s a cool point of view to be like ‘my heroes are innocent’…That’s cool. But you’re living in a f**king dream world.” He actually said this lol. Link to article: https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/03/24/superman-batman-kill-dawn-of-justice-man-of-steel-zack-snyder/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 He's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Pretty sure Thor completely intended to kill Thanos, so its a stupid way to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertman2 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said: Holy shit Zack Snyder seems to have finally snapped: He actually said this lol. Link to article: https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/03/24/superman-batman-kill-dawn-of-justice-man-of-steel-zack-snyder/ He snapped when he wanted Batman to get prison raped 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...