AnDr3s Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Christ the DC fanboys are going to be insufferable over this Joker shit. When were Marvel fans this pretentious when Black Panther was in contention? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Christ the DC fanboys are going to be insufferable over this Joker shit. When were Marvel fans this pretentious when Black Panther was in contention? We’re winning the $$$ so don’t really care about awards that much. If we’d crossed 2 billon marks in the 2010s instead of 11 I bet people would have been more invested in the BP BP nom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, SpiderByte said: Christ the DC fanboys are going to be insufferable over this Joker shit. When were Marvel fans this pretentious when Black Panther was in contention? Maybe because Black Panther was never a serious contender for any relevant win, and even Marvel fans must admit to themselves the BP nom was undeserved. Joker was also on the same place as a film (only Joaquin Phoenix in acting categories was considered to have a chance). The best picture win at Venice was a total surprise, and changes things for the movie going into awards season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seto Kaiba Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Kristen Stewart clarified her interview involving Marvel. Quote Nor does she think the roles she’s offered have changed since being an out queer actor — and she cited Marvel only because she was illustrating “it was literally just a big conglomerate-y type thing.” https://variety.com/2019/film/news/kristen-stewart-gay-superhero-1203327460/ I mean, that was obvious before, but it's amazing the ability of some people around here to misunderstand some things Edited September 7, 2019 by Seto Kaiba 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Man Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, Seto Kaiba said: Kristen Stewart clarified her interview involving Marvel. I mean, that was obvious before, but it's amazing the ability of some people around here to misunderstand some things You mean the perseverance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ororo Munroe Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, SpiderByte said: Christ the DC fanboys are going to be insufferable over this Joker shit. When were Marvel fans this pretentious when Black Panther was in contention? Well to be frank, at least half of MCU fans were bitter over the recognition BP received, as they thought IW was more deserving (lol). They were not as pretentious as I imagine DC fans are but Joker is still a long way away from winning big awards. An Oscar nom is certainly not a lock outside of JP in lead actor, perhaps. Edited September 8, 2019 by Ororo Munroe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Napoleon said: Maybe because Black Panther was never a serious contender for any relevant win, and even Marvel fans must admit to themselves the BP nom was undeserved. Joker was also on the same place as a film (only Joaquin Phoenix in acting categories was considered to have a chance). The best picture win at Venice was a total surprise, and changes things for the movie going into awards season. You mean other than the three categories that it won in? And it's not like Jokers winning Best Picture either. Look at how many movies that win the Golden Lion also win best picture. Maybe it'll give a needed reality check. Let's not pretend DC fans aren't going to use this to make call every single fucking movie they make that's even halfway decent "high art" unless it's a complete turkey like Green Lantern, Jonah Hex or Justice League, like they did since 2008 with all the DCEU movies till JL. They even shit themselves when Aquaman wasn't nominated. The "DC movies are REAL TRUE CINEMA, unlike Marvel movies" shit from that fandom had finally died out after a fucking decade of that shit and now it's already back. Edited September 8, 2019 by SpiderByte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Thanos Legion said: We’re winning the $$$ so don’t really care about awards that much. If we’d crossed 2 billon marks in the 2010s instead of 11 I bet people would have been more invested in the BP BP nom. "we" 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, TMP said: "we" Not quite sure what you’re getting at here. The pronoun pretty clearly dereferences to “MCU fans.” Are you surprised to learn that I’m an MCU fan 🤔 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMP Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Thanos Legion said: Not quite sure what you’re getting at here. The pronoun pretty clearly dereferences to “MCU fans.” Are you surprised to learn that I’m an MCU fan 🤔 More so in that you're not "winning the $$$" since you guys aren't shareholders at Disney (outside of @Walt Disney I guess) 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Since 2013 DC fans became like Trump/Qanon supporters, any critical setback is a massive conspiracy against them and they're convinced they're both somehow on top and everyone loves them and a hated put-upon group with the world against them. It'll be interesting to see how they weave Jokers success into the narrative that Geoff Johns was secretly bribed by Marvel to sell them scripts to Batman V Superman and two Justice League movies so Marvel could use broad plot elements (heroes fighting and time travel) to make them look bad, and that Disney pays Rotten Tomatoes to make specifically and only certain DC movies to have bad reviews. Edited September 8, 2019 by SpiderByte 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, TMP said: More so in that you're not "winning the $$$" since you guys aren't shareholders at Disney (outside of @Walt Disney I guess) I guess Red Sox fans didn’t “win the World Series” either. I mean they aren’t actually a part of the team. C’mon man, this is a pretty high level of being deliberately obtuse. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Since 2013 DC fans became like Trump/Qanon supporters, any critical setback is a massive conspiracy against them and they're convinced they're both somehow on top and everyone loves them and a hated put-upon group with the world against them. It'll be interesting to see how they weave Jokers success into the narrative that Geoff Johns was secretly bribed by Marvel to sell them scripts to Batman V Superman and two Justice League movies so Marvel could use broad plot elements (heroes fighting and time travel) to make them look bad. Some of these conspiracy theories are nonsense but there's no denying that, for whatever reason, there was a whole bunch of bloggers doing a year-long smear campaign against the DCEU when Zack Snyder was at the helm. There was just a very toxic and loud negative coverage. They even spread rumors that Wonder Woman was a disaster, said the trailers looked bad and stuff, but they were shut down when the serious critics started acclaiming the movie and the positive reviews quickly took control of the narrative. I'm not saying I belive there was a conspiracy, an organized group of bloggers doing a master plan to destroy the DCEU. But a lot of them for whatever reason I don't understand hated Zack Snyder and didn't stop until they took away the joy for the fans who liked the franchise. And that's what makes DC fans so angry. Why would you try to ruin something others are enjoying, just because you don't enjoy it? That's like, I don't enjoy MCU movies at all, but millions do. If I somehow had the power to stop it, why would I do that? Just because I don't enjoy MCU movies I will ruin for the millions who do? That's not fine. Bloggers who hate Zack Snyder and the DCEU should have moved on with their lives, and not make a living hell for the fans. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WittyUsername Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Since 2013 DC fans became like Trump/Qanon supporters, any critical setback is a massive conspiracy against them and they're convinced they're both somehow on top and everyone loves them and a hated put-upon group with the world against them. It'll be interesting to see how they weave Jokers success into the narrative that Geoff Johns was secretly bribed by Marvel to sell them scripts to Batman V Superman and two Justice League movies so Marvel could use broad plot elements (heroes fighting and time travel) to make them look bad, and that Disney pays Rotten Tomatoes to make specifically and only certain DC movies to have bad reviews. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 It looks like all comic book fans can rejoice, for the first time ever the genre is respected by cinèma elites. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) There’s literally no difference between the funny book movie stans, except the material they stan for. All can become equally toxic. I’ve seen tons of toxic DC and MCU fans to this day on here and these last two pages are only a droplet of water in an ocean of evidence. Edited September 8, 2019 by YourMother the Edgelord 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) Besides mathematically speaking Spider-Man: Into The Spider Verse is clearly superior as it was the only CBM to win a Best Feature Oscar. Edited September 8, 2019 by YourMother the Edgelord 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Napoleon said: Some of these conspiracy theories are nonsense but there's no denying that, for whatever reason, there was a whole bunch of bloggers doing a year-long smear campaign against the DCEU when Zack Snyder was at the helm. There was just a very toxic and loud negative coverage. They even spread rumors that Wonder Woman was a disaster, said the trailers looked bad and stuff, but they were shut down when the serious critics started acclaiming the movie and the positive reviews quickly took control of the narrative. I'm not saying I belive there was a conspiracy, an organized group of bloggers doing a master plan to destroy the DCEU. But a lot of them for whatever reason I don't understand hated Zack Snyder and didn't stop until they took away the joy for the fans who liked the franchise. And that's what makes DC fans so angry. Why would you try to ruin something others are enjoying, just because you don't enjoy it? That's like, I don't enjoy MCU movies at all, but millions do. If I somehow had the power to stop it, why would I do that? Just because I don't enjoy MCU movies I will ruin for the millions who do? That's not fine. Bloggers who hate Zack Snyder and the DCEU should have moved on with their lives, and not make a living hell for the fans. Bloggers can’t ruin anything for anyone. Just don’t read their blogs. To purposely continue to read sites that you think are wrong makes no sense. It’s one thing if it’s a message board you frequent, but blogs and websites can be ignored quite easily. Edited September 8, 2019 by Walt Disney 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I'm not a fan of CBM, I'm a fan of good movies. Happy they finally made one but I'll be the final judge. This will be the first DC/Marvel film I paid for a ticket for in 4 years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...