Rebeccas Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Detective Pikachu is full of American detective movie in-jokes. It may not translate that well humor-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Dark Phoenix $100M for 4 days opening considering it will be the first marvel film after Endgame. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseOfTheSun Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rebeccas said: Detective Pikachu is full of American detective movie in-jokes. It may not translate that well humor-wise. So will run into the same issues as Shazam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Gavin Feng said: Dark Phoenix $100M for 4 days opening considering it will be the first marvel film after Endgame. Woudnt that be terrible for Godzilla? If Dark Phoenix opens to 100M over 4 Days we can probably say goodbye to Big G's chances at 250M+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookson Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Brainbug said: Woudnt that be terrible for Godzilla? If Dark Phoenix opens to 100M over 4 Days we can probably say goodbye to Big G's chances at 250M+ To me it seems Godzilla has a shot at at 150-180m opening(weekend)in China. I think 250+ is probably easily going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnale101 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I think the difference is people are Going into detective pikachu as a comedy movie unlike Shazam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: Dark Phoenix $100M for 4 days opening considering it will be the first marvel film after Endgame. People won’t know that it has nothing to do with Endgame? Or just won’t care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddemaxus Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, HouseOfTheSun said: So will run into the same issues as Shazam The difference is that Pikachu likely has 10 times the amount of action and fanservice. It isn't like the Marvel movies don't have Americanised jokes. But they still do a huge amount of money because of fanservice and action. I mean, there is no other explanation for why something like Ant-Man does well (it did also have the family element though but so does Pikachu considering that it is about finding the main character's dad). Edited May 2, 2019 by lorddemaxus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseOfTheSun Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said: The difference is that Pikachu likely has 10 times the amount of action and fanservice. It isn't like the Marvel movies don't have Americanised jokes. But they still do a huge amount of money because of fanservice and action. I mean, there is no other explanation for why something like Ant-Man does well (it did also have the family element though but so does Pikachu considering that it is about finding the main character's dad). Antman has some pretty unique visuals with the shrinking stuff. Pokémon action is likely just a beam off like most of the anime is. And Shazam has more family oriented stuff than any superhero movie I remember seeing. Maybe you’re right but at this point with Presales and general vibe of the movie I’m not seeing an Uber massive breakout. I’ll stick with say...120m or so. Edited May 2, 2019 by HouseOfTheSun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, ZeeSoh said: Detective Pikachu (8 days out) Midnight - 209k OD - 2.11m (+17.2%) (20814 shows) Sat - 556k Sun - 372k From the table below DP is close to Alita and Shazam in nearly every count. Alita finished with 33m in presales and Shazam finished at 24.5m in PS. If DP follows Alita, it will land at 35m+ PS and 30s if it follows Shazam. That seems good enough if your expectations are 100-125m in final gross but if expectations are close to 250-300m then it should be doing better. Now the low PS does not necessarily mean a low OW and a low gross. Aquaman for instance ended its PS run at 35m and went on to do nearly 100m in OW and 300m in final gross. So if DP manages such high ratings then it too can go that high. But Aquaman was more the exception than the norm. Norm would suggest a 50-60m opening weekend and 100-130m final total. OD PS Midnight PS Sat PS Sun PS Show Count Day of presale MI6 6.5m 952k 2.17m 1.31m 40658 14th day Ant Man 2 4.09m 828k 1.69m 1.26m 36966 7th day Bumblebee 3.6m 670k 1.87m 1.41m 45639 17th day SMH 3.0m - - - - 7h day Alita 2.48m 432k 1.08m 590k 23939 11th day DP 2.11m 314k 620k 390k 22407 11th day Shazam 1.2m 432k 518k 474k 23532 3nd day Detective Pikachu (7 days out) Midnight - 368k OD - 2.48m (+17.5%) (24433 shows) Sat - 688k Sun - 403k DP continues to weaken against those comparisons in the table. Wouldnt panic just yet but if it continues like this past Sunday then that is a cause for concern. OD PS Midnight PS Sat PS Sun PS Show Count Day of presale MI6 7.36m 1.02m 2.35m 1.4m 42897 15th day Ant Man 2 4.81m 952k 1.88m 1.34m 39593 8th day Bumblebee 4.2m 718k 2.16m 1.6m 47900 18th day Alita 3.15m 538k 1.27m 647k 28400 12th day DP 2.48m 368k 688k 403k 24433 12th day Shazam 1.58m 592k 636k 582k 29085 4nd day 1 hour ago, lorddemaxus said: I wouldn't be so sure about that. I think Godzilla has a good chance of killing Dark Pheonix in China. DP comes after Godzilla. It will steal Gozilla's screens affecting its legs. 1 hour ago, Brainbug said: Woudnt that be terrible for Godzilla? If Dark Phoenix opens to 100M over 4 Days we can probably say goodbye to Big G's chances at 250M+ Good news for both is that they are opening on/around a holiday weekend. Dark Phoenix opens during the Dragon Boat festival weekend whereas Godzilla opens a week earlier. Thanks to the festival Godzilla's legs may not be that affected by DP but I think DP has the date advantage here. And if DP's reception is good then Godzilla will suffer even more 1 hour ago, Cookson said: To me it seems Godzilla has a shot at at 150-180m opening(weekend)in China. I think 250+ is probably easily going to happen. Last one opened to 37m. I know market has grown a lot in the past 5 years but it has not grown THAT much. Not even big movies like Venom, Aquaman, Jurassic World 2 managed an opening that high so why would this. I feel safe enough to say that its not going to open that high. Edited May 2, 2019 by ZeeSoh 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnale101 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Lack of show count is bit annoying but I understand with how big Endgame is right now it’s hard to plan ahead for others reviews drop 9:30pm EST so China time 9:30am Friday if it’s positive then hopefully weekend can much bigger increases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorddemaxus Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 41 minutes ago, HouseOfTheSun said: And Shazam has more family oriented stuff than any superhero movie I remember seeing. Foster families though. I'm not even sure if there are Foster families in China. I don't think they would find that relatable at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnale101 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said: Foster families though. I'm not even sure if there are Foster families in China. I don't think they would find that relatable at all. Having seen movie at screening. I don’t think movie has Americanized humour. I think he may have got confused with kiddish humor like there a few fart and pee jokes in it but I mean there some in shrek and lion king too its childish humour not American humor Edited May 2, 2019 by Minnale101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookson Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I don’t think you can really compare G14 to KotM. 5 years is 5 years and this new one is way more action oriented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Thanos Legion said: People won’t know that it has nothing to do with Endgame? Or just won’t care? I think more than the X-Men brand is actually still quite strong in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Darth Lehnsherr said: I think more than the X-Men brand is actually still quite strong in China. Well, I've been expecting Dark Phoenix to do solid since the Fox-men generally are still healthy in China. Gavin seemed to be implying that it would be helped by Endgame, despite being totally unrelated franchise-wise, so I was inquiring about how that would work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said: Well, I've been expecting Dark Phoenix to do solid since the Fox-men generally are still healthy in China. Gavin seemed to be implying that it would be helped by Endgame, despite being totally unrelated franchise-wise, so I was inquiring about how that would work. I'm wondering with how Venom, Aquaman and now Endgame (soz Shazam) have done whether we can make the case the superhero genre has gotten more popular in China. I'm so curious how Far From Home does considering Homecoming's meh to bad reception in China. Edited May 2, 2019 by Darth Lehnsherr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Darth Lehnsherr said: I'm wondering with how Venom, Aquaman and now Endgame (soz Shazam) have done whether we can make the case the superhero genre has gotten more popular in China. I'm so curious how Far From Home does considering Homecoming's meh to bad reception in China. CM’s legs weren’t great but it also performed significantly above the SH “ceiling” of 90-120M USD or so. I really hope that after Infinity War Chinese audiences are willing to give Spider-Man another shot and that FFH is more to their tastes than SMH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: Dark Phoenix $100M for 4 days opening considering it will be the first marvel film after Endgame. Actually, I am surprised by the high interested count on Bookmyshow as well in India. Hopefully DP won't hurt FFH as next Marvel film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnale101 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 There was a noticeable jump today with Detective pikachu. Could be the reviews or movie finally starting to gain momentum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...