xiazhi Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 13 hours ago, lorddemaxus said: So, pretty much all the movie has left is WoM. Doubt it's going to be good enough to help the movie tbh. Outside of Aquaman, every other recent DC release had mediocre to negative WoM. Even WoM can't help much. Piracy comes one week after its opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, meridan said: A lot of the data that gets posted here makes no sense to me. What does WW84 look like it's going to do opening weekend? How bad is it? Caveat, uncertainty, etc right now PS seem like an opening in the $30Ms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meridan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, WandaLegion said: Caveat, uncertainty, etc right now PS seem like an opening in the $30Ms Horrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 AT&T: Now you see -- the only way to avoid bad ticket sale of our great movies is directly moving it to HBO Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Edited December 11, 2020 by Gavin Feng 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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charlie Jatinder Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Gotta repeat myself. @Gavin Feng overall pre-sales don't matter much, if not at all. OD is only one which matters after that its WoM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said: Gotta repeat myself. @Gavin Feng overall pre-sales don't matter much, if not at all. OD is only one which matters after that its WoM. Well presalles matter as a way to better estimate OD, OD is used to better predicts OW, OW is used to better predict the next week etc.. So in the end the only thing that matters is the total, cause it's the only thing that for the most part is final (excluding potential rereleases). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 16 minutes ago, pepsa said: Well presalles matter as a way to better estimate OD, OD is used to better predicts OW, OW is used to better predict the next week etc.. So in the end the only thing that matters is the total, cause it's the only thing that for the most part is final (excluding potential rereleases). Yep. That's exactly what I said. And what you said is absolutely true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, pepsa said: Well presalles matter as a way to better estimate OD, OD is used to better predicts OW, OW is used to better predict the next week etc.. So in the end the only thing that matters is the total, cause it's the only thing that for the most part is final (excluding potential rereleases). Total is good because it lets you predict 2nd week, OW, and OD with very high precision 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 WW84 numbers too small to track. T-6 days par what was expected yesterday at 1.79mn. Will look on Monday or Wednesday. Little Red Flower extraordinary. 9.6mn 19 days out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 LRF OD above WW full run ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, WandaLegion said: LRF OD above WW full run ? Possible but Gavin said its only previews on Thursday, so not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: Possible but Gavin said its only previews on Thursday, so not sure. I meant the cume after the first full 24 hr day. Not sure what will be considered official “OD” if it’s 6 hrs and then 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The GOAT Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 17 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: A Non-Action Blockbuster is going to let it rip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 WW84 has been following Shazam pretty closely for a couple days now, but I think it will have a weaker D-0. OD O/U 50 looks like a real question for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mau Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, WandaLegion said: WW84 has been following Shazam pretty closely for a couple days now, but I think it will have a weaker D-0. OD O/U 50 looks like a real question for now So opening over/under 25M USD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) The original did $37.7m. Is local competition to blame? Or are they just waiting to pirate it? Edited December 13, 2020 by Krissykins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Mau said: So opening over/under 25M USD? ATM I’m personally thinking 24-32 or so. Gavin seems more bullish though. 12 minutes ago, Krissykins said: The original did $37.7m. Is local competition to blame? Or are they just waiting to pirate it? Wait to pirate could be a factor, hard to tell since the situation is pretty unorecendented. Local competition is perhaps a small factor, but The Rescue doesn’t look huge from (nonfaked) PS — plenty of room for WW to open at 80M or something with Rescue at the size it is if hype was there. Overall, what I’d say is just this: it is not uncommon for sequels to open less and finish less than their predecessors, in this or any other market, especially if that predecessor had average reception in the market. Assumptions that it would grow because of market growth were a bit off because HW really hasn't grown that much here since 2017, which was already the tail end of the explosive expansion. And assumptions it would grow because it’s a CBM sequel and those buck usual sequel trends were a bit off because it’s the first DCEU sequel, and that trend is observed only for MCU sequels so far, likely owing to the success of their teamup events. Edited December 13, 2020 by WandaLegion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Piracy and what I believe if case is same as India, zero marketing. No one knows it is coming. Literally zero buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
