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19 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

Looks like it have potential 

 

A bit disgusted with Timothee tho after his participation in SNL and that cruel sketch about Hamas 

Yeah same. That SNL sketch was pretty awful and I am pretty disappointed with Timothee. I might not watch this at the end, same with Noah Schnapp and Stranger Things 5. 

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2 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:

Looks like it have potential 

 

A bit disgusted with Timothee tho after his participation in SNL and that cruel sketch about Hamas 

I've just read about it. Such a weird and tone-deaf joke to make, it wouldn't even be funny before this war.

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3 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:

Looks like it have potential 

 

A bit disgusted with Timothee tho after his participation in SNL and that cruel sketch about Hamas 

Hilary loses? 3 minute long sad piano intro.

Ukraine invaded? Candlelight vigil

Palestinians facing ethnic cleansing and genocide? Make jokes about them.

 

SNL pretty pathetic for that.

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1 minute ago, Dominic Draper said:

Hilary loses? 3 minute long sad piano intro.

Ukraine invaded? Candlelight vigil

Palestinians facing ethnic cleansing and genocide? Make jokes about them.

 

SNL pretty pathetic for that.

Should have just gone back to the old favorite of making fun of Trump.

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25 minutes ago, SaltyPistola said:

This feels like Mary Poppins all over again - a sequel/prequel to a decades old musical that will underperform due to a lack of interest in the property. Migration will stomp all over this most likely. 

I thought you were talking about Wicked until you mentioned Migration at the end, oh he is taking about Wonka.

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7 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:

Looks like it have potential 

 

A bit disgusted with Timothee tho after his participation in SNL and that cruel sketch about Hamas 

I’m curious if people have watched the sketch or only read about it on social media? I honestly think it’s been blown out of promotion, but everyone is free to have their own opinion.

 

ETA: thought I would just do a quick recap, for those who have not seen it themselves. The Hamas joke is about 15 seconds of a 3.5 min sketch. Timothée’s character doesn’t think he has anything to live for, when 3 guys try to talk him off the ledge of a building. He admits he has a band, but after playing them some of the music, it turns out it’s awful. He requests they help share his stuff and when they ask the name of his band, he says it’s Haymous (like famous), but when he spells it, it’s H-a-m-a-s. The guys say they aren’t going to share music from a band called Hamas. And then the sketch continues. I totally understand if you think it was insensitive to even mention Hamas at all, but I don’t feel that it is pro-either side (I think both sides would be offended to have that name associated with this guys’ shitty music). To me, the joke was more showing this white guys’ ignorance to not realize that the spelling of his band name could he offensive.

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1 hour ago, MovieMagic said:

I’m curious if people have watched the sketch or only read about it on social media? I honestly think it’s been blown out of promotion, but everyone is free to have their own opinion.

 

ETA: thought I would just do a quick recap, for those who have not seen it themselves. The Hamas joke is about 15 seconds of a 3.5 min sketch. Timothée’s character doesn’t think he has anything to live for, when 3 guys try to talk him off the ledge of a building. He admits he has a band, but after playing them some of the music, it turns out it’s awful. He requests they help share his stuff and when they ask the name of his band, he says it’s Haymous (like famous), but when he spells it, it’s H-a-m-a-s. The guys say they aren’t going to share music from a band called Hamas. And then the sketch continues. I totally understand if you think it was insensitive to even mention Hamas at all, but I don’t feel that it is pro-either side (I think both sides would be offended to have that name associated with this guys’ shitty music). To me, the joke was more showing this white guys’ ignorance to not realize that the spelling of his band name could he offensive.

So that skit and that joke is upsetting people. Wow. I will comment no more except to say Wow.

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6 hours ago, MovieMagic said:

I’m curious if people have watched the sketch or only read about it on social media? I honestly think it’s been blown out of promotion, but everyone is free to have their own opinion.

 

ETA: thought I would just do a quick recap, for those who have not seen it themselves. The Hamas joke is about 15 seconds of a 3.5 min sketch. Timothée’s character doesn’t think he has anything to live for, when 3 guys try to talk him off the ledge of a building. He admits he has a band, but after playing them some of the music, it turns out it’s awful. He requests they help share his stuff and when they ask the name of his band, he says it’s Haymous (like famous), but when he spells it, it’s H-a-m-a-s. The guys say they aren’t going to share music from a band called Hamas. And then the sketch continues. I totally understand if you think it was insensitive to even mention Hamas at all, but I don’t feel that it is pro-either side (I think both sides would be offended to have that name associated with this guys’ shitty music). To me, the joke was more showing this white guys’ ignorance to not realize that the spelling of his band name could he offensive.

The thing is, the joke wouldn't have been funny even if there was no war, so odd to make it and risk a backlash. I don't know, it wasn't very offensive no, but just unnecessary.

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3 hours ago, Arlborn said:

The thing is, the joke wouldn't have been funny even if there was no war, so odd to make it and risk a backlash. I don't know, it wasn't very offensive no, but just unnecessary.

I don’t disagree, but SNL has always referenced current events and done it in way more blatant and offensive ways than this. (And I don’t find much of their comedy funny in general.) I just personally think the backlash has been blown way out of proportion.

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12 hours ago, MovieMagic said:

I’m curious if people have watched the sketch or only read about it on social media? I honestly think it’s been blown out of promotion, but everyone is free to have their own opinion.

 

ETA: thought I would just do a quick recap, for those who have not seen it themselves. The Hamas joke is about 15 seconds of a 3.5 min sketch. Timothée’s character doesn’t think he has anything to live for, when 3 guys try to talk him off the ledge of a building. He admits he has a band, but after playing them some of the music, it turns out it’s awful. He requests they help share his stuff and when they ask the name of his band, he says it’s Haymous (like famous), but when he spells it, it’s H-a-m-a-s. The guys say they aren’t going to share music from a band called Hamas. And then the sketch continues. I totally understand if you think it was insensitive to even mention Hamas at all, but I don’t feel that it is pro-either side (I think both sides would be offended to have that name associated with this guys’ shitty music). To me, the joke was more showing this white guys’ ignorance to not realize that the spelling of his band name could he offensive.

It’s semiotics. The joke itself is just unfunny, but we all know this is part of a larger push from the culture media to keep creating a myth around this war and what it’s happening. 
 

Audiovisual is historically used to create narratives that justify atrocities, this is part of that, even if it looks just a silly inoffensive joke about “current events”. 
 

Of course i’m not saying everyone have to agreed but that’s my pov.

 

But back to the movie, i really doubt any of this will either help or hurt it. It’ll be entirely dependent of good reviews and WOM to succeed.

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