Logan (2017)

[4815162342]

2 hours ago, The Stingray said:

 

I'm really, really glad the movie left all that shit well alone, and didn't bother acknowledging any messy mythologies and continuities.
 

 

 

I loved that the ending was somewhat ambiguous. I wish more movies were brave enough to end like that, instead of spoon-feeding the audience ad nauseam.
 

 

Except this movie being in the primary timeline kinda hurts both it and other movies by extension IMO.

 

 

And considering so much was made of safety in Canada, I would have liked to see payoff to that setup.

[BadAtGender]

I really liked it.

 

A great use of Chekov's Gun.

[Jay Beezy]

Considering the tone of the movie, the X-24 clone of Wolverine was a much better villain than the Silver Samurai in The Wolverine.

 

They learned their mistakes of the last one, took what was best about the last one (the tone), cranked it up and maintained it throughout the whole movie.

 

Definite A

[Ozymandias]

7 hours ago, 4815162342 said:

1) the somewhat murky premise and backstory and elements that only further muddy the waters of the Continuity.

 

The X-Men continuity has been a mess a long time nowI thought it was pretty obvious this movie didn't give a shit about continuity outside the basics of Xavier once running a school for mutants and taking in Logan under his wing.  Logan even picks up an X-Men comic book and says "this is all bullshit, maybe a quarter of it happened"

[snitch]

I liked it but i really thought going in that i would love it....and i didn't. It really dragged at some point and the emotional punches were kinda weak and anti climactic. Great tone, great performances all around, will miss Hugh as Logan

Id give it 7/10 

[Goffe]

I ugly cried so hard when Logan buried Charles, more so than any of the two deaths.

[Ozymandias]

5 minutes ago, Goffe said:

I ugly cried so hard when Logan buried Charles, more so than any of the two deaths.

 

The scene right afterwards where he's losing his mind fucking up his truck was simultaneously gut wrenching and comical.

[Valonqar]

Phenomenal movie. Acting by Jackman, Stewart and Keen is something that gets you awards attention in a non-CB movie. Something different for SH genre, doesn't just feel like a real movie and not a cartoon, it is a real movie. Can't praise Jackman enough, he knows Logan inside out and it's a crowning achievement to close it on such a high note. I hope he gets awards attention for this or Greatest Show on Earth with the help of Logan (the banner year).

 

My only gripes are dull as fuck villains (why did Hunnam-Hedlund Triplet have a robotic arm?) that stopped the movie cold every time POV switched to them, and God-awful kids with their God-awful powers (grass-growing? really? stupidest thing in CB movies ever) that reminded me why I never got into X Men and never will (silly powers such as that, freezing, etc). Those kids were so ugly and bad actors that camera couldn't bother to stay with any of them for more than 3 seconds. If they are going to be X Force, yikes! Fat kid with electricity, fat girl with freezing and that cow face that grows grass. Awful. Nobody cared about them. Getting Laura to safety should have been enough cause we cared for her. Also, she doesn't belong with them as the ending telegraphed when she stayed longer at the grave (ugly fucks didn't really care). She'll be a loner like Logan.

 

But that aside, helluva movie. The chemsitry between the trio was so lived in. Action was great, gory but not unwatchable. Nothing on The Walking Dead level. Gory but not disgusting, that's what I want to say. Also loved cinematography and that Texas water tank where they lived at the beginning of the movie. 

 

Does anyone think that X-24 was a bit of a "if Hugh wants to come back, we can always introduce the clone" plan B just in case? 

[Mulder]

Just now, Valonqar said:

Phenomenal movie. Acting by Jackman, Stewart and Keen is something that gets you awards attention in a non-CB movie. Something different for SH genre, doesn't just feel like a real movie and not a cartoon, it is a real movie. Can't praise Jackman enough, he knows Logan inside out and it's a crowning achievement to close it on such a high note. I hope he gets awards attention for this or Greatest Show on Earth with the help of Logan (the banner year).

 

My only gripes are dull as fuck villains (why did Hunnam-Hedlund Triplet have a robotic arm?) that stopped the movie cold every time POV switched to them, and God-awful kids with their God-awful powers (grass-growing? really? stupidest thing in CB movies ever) that reminded me why I never got into X Men and never will (silly powers such as that, freezing, etc). Those kids were so ugly and bad actors that camera couldn't bother to stay with any of them for more than 3 seconds. If they are going to be X Force, yikes! Fat kid with electricity, fat girl with freezing and that cow face that grows grass. Awful. Nobody cared about them. Getting Laura to safety should have been enough cause we cared for her. Also, she doesn't belong with them as the ending telegraphed when she stayed longer at the grave (ugly fucks didn't really care). She'll be a loner like Logan.

 

But that aside, helluva movie. The chemsitry between the trio was so lived in. Action was great, gory but not unwatchable. Nothing on The Walking Dead level. Gory but not disgusting, that's what I want to say. Also loved cinematography and that Texas water tank where they lived at the beginning of the movie. 

 

Does anyone think that X-24 was a bit of a "if Hugh wants to come back, we can always introduce the clone" plan B just in case? 

Dude do you really need to pick on the kids appearances? Come on

[Valonqar]

6 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Dude do you really need to pick on the kids appearances? Come on

 

yes I do. I really hated them. They were pointless and awful. They weren't in the movie enough to ruin it but they weren't needed.

 

Trailers:

 

Some movie with Brie Larson, Free Fire, I think. No reaction.

Old GOTG Vol 2 trailer. Some laughs.

Alien Covenant. No reaction.

Deadpool skit. Faint laughs. 

 

 

Edited March 4, 2017 by Valonqar

[Mulder]

Just now, Valonqar said:

 

yes I do. I really hated them. They were pointless and awful. They weren't in the movie enough to ruin it but they weren't needed.

 

You can insult their acting ability ((Which I thought was fine)) but their appearance? That's just low and immature.

[Valonqar]

1 minute ago, Mulder said:

You can insult their acting ability ((Which I thought was fine)) but their appearance? That's just low and immature.

 

I don't care and don't see why you are so worked up. It's just my opinion.

[filmlover]

A lyrical, near-perfect send-off for Hugh Jackman's Wolverine that stands as the best X-Men film of them all and one of the best comic book movies ever. I have seen all of these movies in theaters going back to the original 17 years ago, and James Mangold delivers a fitting conclusion to the film saga that got this particular fan choked up by the end. Anyone who doubts that superhero movies can't be as powerful as the best dramas need to look no further than this for the rebuttal. First and foremost, the movie is about Logan, not the Wolverine who has been the face of the franchise since its launch in the summer of 2000. This is riveting character drama that reminds us that superheroes aren't that different from the rest of us. Hugh Jackman has owned the role since it catapulted him from unknown to stardom, and here he delivers what might be the best work of his entire career to date. Patrick Stewart, noble and wise as always, is also terrific, while newcomer Dafne Keen is a child actress who makes a strong impression. As for the R rating: oh hell yes does it deliver, as we finally get the chance to see Wolverine slice up dudes in a way that was neutered by the series until now. The villains (the main one played by Charlie Hunnam doppelganger Boyd Holbrook) don't leave much of an impression, though, which is one of the few complaints I have, but most comic book movie villains tend to leave much to be desired more often than not. This is a character drama at its center, and it works beautifully.

 

Farewell and thank you for everything you accomplished in this career-defining role, Hugh Jackman. And good luck to the younger actor who will have some mighty heavy, er, claws to fulfill in the inevitable reboot that's just a few years away.

 

A-

[Mulder]

10 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 

I don't care and don't see why you are so worked up. It's just my opinion.

This isn't rly worked up, more telling you that you're being kind of a jerk but take it as you wish

[Valonqar]

If they are smart, they won't reboot with Wolverine but continue with Daphne Keen as Wolverine (doesn't her character eventually take the name?)

[filmlover]

The one thing that did rub me the wrong way:

 

Having the nice black family being introduced just to be brutally murdered 15 minutes later by a villain. Those seemed like unnecessary deaths. Doesn't detract from the movie much at all, though.

[Plain Old Tele]

5 minutes ago, filmlover said:

The one thing that did rub me the wrong way:

 

Having the nice black family being introduced just to be brutally murdered 15 minutes later by a villain. Those seemed like unnecessary deaths. Doesn't detract from the movie much at all, though.

 

Given the political angle of the movie, that most assuredly was the point. (IMO)

[Water Bottle]

A-

 

The X-Men comics kinda bothered me as they sort-of broke the fourth wall.

[RobinHood26]

Gotta be honest I was mildly disappointed, I liked it, its good, but not great. 3 Big things really annoyed me

 

1) I personally just fucking hate the idea of X-24 - Clone Wolverine, its lame, it reminds me of Origins and felt like an easy out. 

 

2) Charles death (kinda connected to #1) didn't do anything for me. I think it was the structure. He gets Stabbed and we KNOW he's gonna die. But then we have to have this big action scene and we see him actually die in the middle of it? It was hard to feel emotion for the loss when it seemed like his death was pushed to the side of the story. 

 

3) I honestly could care less about those little non X-men kids in sweat pants and t-shirts. First off, they could have killed all the Reavers in 2 seconds, but they run and get captured ( I know Children). I also just didnt need them, Laura was enough and all the time with the other kids took away time spent with Her and Logan. 

 

 

Hugh JACKMAN tho, C'mon the dude is a treasure. Patrick was perfect and will always be Professor X, the girl complicity sold it, her fighting was never laughable or cheesy, she's a bad ass. Caliban was cool, but his torture stuff was half baked. 

 

Holbrook is a star, loved every moment with him. 

 

The soundtrack and sound Design/mixing were extremely well done. (loved the sound of the automated trucks) Cinematography was solid of course. The whole Chaos vision thing with Professor X was great. Loved the casino fight scene and just all the awesome unleashed Wolverine moments. 

 

Other little things, I wish she used her feet blades more.  We also did not need to charge the phone to watch more of a video some lady took. 

 

Professor X helping horses was kinda funny and so was, don't be mad but the short little black kid running away from the Reavers was funny, they held that shot for way to long, it was like 5 seconds.   

 

Overall its fun, I hope I like it more on a second viewing. I actually gave The Wolverine a bad review at first but now I really like it (extended cut). hoping this grows on me too, but for now The story was very simple which is fine, but no twists or moments where I generally wondered what would happen next. 

 

 

Ending Shot was perfect though. 

 

 

B- (82)

 

 

 

[Water Bottle]

1 minute ago, Jay Hollywood said:

Professor X helping horses was kinda funny and so was, don't be mad but the short little black kid running away from the Reavers was funny, they held that shot for way to long, it was like 5 seconds.  

 

 

B- (82)

 

 

 

 

WTF. People behind me also laughed at that in my theater.