The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

Decided to do a multi-city show count update for EG Thursday @ AMC Theaters. All data is as of 8am CST.

 

(City / Total Theaters / **Total Screens / Total Shows)

 

Houston: 12 — 213 — 330

Dallas/Ft.Worth: 18 — 276 — 387

New York City: 17 — 181 — 280

Los Angeles: 29 — 436 — 677

Phoenix: 11 — 182 — 232

Philadelphia: 19 — 237 — 283 

 

Houston: 1.55 shows per screen

DFW: 1.40 shows per screen

NYC: 1.56 shows per screen

LA: 1.55 shows per screen

Phoenix: 1.27 shows per screen

Philly: 1.19 shows per screen

 

 

** Total screens is the entire amount at the theater. Not just the amount being used for EG.

 

[Cappoedameron]

Honestly I'd love to know the strategy for Ugly Dolls. They saw the trailer for Detective Pikachu and got the heck out of the May 10th slot and now they're hoping to get some scraps from negatives about Endgame in regards to children. 3 hr epic which may not be attractive for parents with young kids, PG-13, and yet they're still gonna get destroyed. Admirable, really.

Edited April 17, 2019 by Cappoedameron

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

3 hours ago, VenomXXR said:

Through the first 6 updates on Pulse tracking, Endgame is well ahead of yesterday. The target today is 35000.

 

April 16 - 6 Updates: 2204

April 17 - 6 Updates: 3263

10 updates 

 

April 16 - 5623

April 17 - 8371

[Eric Prime]

Fandango App

Monday

Tues

Wed

Thursday

A Quiet Place

2,177

4,003

10,665

Hereditary

659

1,178

3,181

Dog Days (Wed)

115

631

1,536

1,212

Crazy Rich Asians (Wed)

3,651

5,742

20,173

20,102

The Nun

2,082

5,938

13,806

28,881

Predator

1,295

2,476

4,545

13,063

Overlord

299

604

1,599

4,522

Ralph 2 (Wed)

7,005

12,131

19,183

15,559

Green Book (Wed) (1K expansion)

387

922

1,701

2,268

Mary Poppins (Wed)

7,713

9,137

16,304

Glass

3,106

3,978

6,478

17,810

Isn't It Romantic (Wed)

3,576

5,367

12,411

12,304

Breakthrough (Wed)	764	1,125
Penguins (Wed)	392	562
The Curse of La Llorona	896	1,159

 

Breakthrough Comps:

178% of Dog Days (6.4M)

19% of Crazy Rich Asians (5.2M)

122% of Green Book (9.1M)

21% of Isn't It Romantic (4.3M)

 

Yikes. This did not have a good bump at all, and it suffered because of that. But hey, this isn't really pre-sales driven anyway, so it probably won't do this bad.

 

Penguins Comps:

5% of Ralph 2 (3.9M)

6% of Mary Poppins Returns (2M)

 

And this had a bad bump too.

 

La Llorona Comps:

29% of A Quiet Place (14.5M)

98% of Hereditary (13.3M)

19% of The Nun (10.5M)

47% of The Predator (11.5M)

192% of Overlord (19.6M)

29% of Glass (11.7M)

 

Well, it's not as bad as those other movies, but still pretty bad. Guess most people are just saving their money for next week.

[stfletch]

31 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

10 updates 

 

April 16 - 5623

April 17 - 8371

Pacing about 50% ahead. We could be looking at over 40,000 today. Certainly a good shot at being the biggest day we've actually seen (obviously first two days would have been higher but we didn't see the actual numbers for those as Pulse was down).

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

10 minutes ago, stfletch said:

Pacing about 50% ahead. We could be looking at over 40,000 today. Certainly a good shot at being the biggest day we've actually seen (obviously first two days would have been higher but we didn't see the actual numbers for those as Pulse was down).

 

I’m just going to hope for 50% over IW equivalent, which would be about 35500. Anything over that is gravy

[Cooper Legion]

@CoolEric258, with Pulse being subsets of total sales is it possible that Breakthrough and Llorona look depressed relative to their absolute volume of sales because of Endgame? 

[el sid]

Today it looks better for most movies.
Pulse 8:35-8:49 EST:

Breakthrough: 50/15 – yesterday 17/15; Unplanned had on Wednesday at that time 10/15 and on Friday at that time 40/15, Isn't It Romantic had on Wednesday at that time 84/15.
Pinguins: 17/15 – yesterday 8/15; Missing Link had on Wednesday at that time 5/15 and on Friday at that time 36/15, Wonder Park had on Wednesday 24/15 and on Friday 124/15 at that time.
The Curse of La Llorona: 19/15 – yesterday 8/15; Us had 230/15, The Prodigy 4/15 both same day and time of the day, Escape Room on Thursday 36/15, Pet Sematary also on Thursday (thanks to the crash on Wednesday because of Avengers: Endgame) 105/15.

Avengers: Endgame: 390/15 – yesterday 270/15
 

And Pulse 10:50-11:04 EST:

Breakthrough: 78/15 – yesterday 21/15, nice and needed jump; Isn't It Romantic had on Wednesday at that time 167/15, Unplanned had on Wednesday at that time 30/15 (I don't have Friday numbers).
Pinguins: 28/15 – yesterday 12/15; Missing Link had 9/15 on Wednesday at that time (no Friday numbers).
The Curse of La Llorona: 28/15 – yesterday 12/15; Us had 386/15, The Prodigy 10/15 both same day and time of the day, Escape Room on Thursday 80/15, Pet Sematary also Thursday 152/15. Again on par with Pinguins, I guess the reviews begin to hurt it .

Avengers: Endgame: 576/15 – yesterday 435/15. Where will this end? The highest number for Captain Marvel was ca. 1.500/15 minutes on the Thursday before its release, so Avengers: Endgame has still 8 days left to overtake it (by far).
 

Tomorrow I'm on a jaunt so if I don't report something that doesn't mean that the numbers are so horrible that I don't want to tell .

Edited April 17, 2019 by el sid

[Eric Prime]

Movie/Time	Monday	Tuesday
Avengers: Endgame	26,081	27,623
	11 days	10 days
Detective Pikachu	350	258
	25 days	24 days
John Wick 3	1,361	734
	32 days	31 days
Secret Life of Pets 2	11	11
	53 days	52 days

 

Endgame

Last 7 Days (16-10)

178% of Black Panther (360.1M)

166% of Infinity War (428.3M)

441% of Captain Marvel (677.3M)

 

Day 22-10

216% of Infinity War (558.1M)

644% of Captain Marvel (989M)

 

Cumulative (minus first two days)

117% of Infinity War (303M)

337% of Captain Marvel (517.7M)

 

I decided to get rid of the partial data from the second day of Endgame, and just remove the first two days of both Infinity War and Captain Marvel. And again, strong results.

 

Pikachu

First 7 Days

16% of Captain Marvel (24.1M)

564% of Dragon 3 (310.3M)

116% of Dumbo (53.2M)

126% of Shazam (67.6M)

 

Day 30-24

35% of Captain Marvel (53.3M)

384% of Dragon 3 (211.1M)

 

Cumulative

271% of Dragon 3 (149.2M)

 

I did get info from stuff like Incredibles and Grinch, but this was after I started compiling this stuff up, and I already had enough stuff to work with. Again, looking at this and BudStarr's data, this is pretty solid stuff.

 

John Wick

Day 39-31

24% of Captain Marvel (36.5M)

 

Picking up traction by quite a bit. Maybe I'll add more stuff to this movie in the future.

 

Pets

Day 58-52

2% of Captain Marvel (2.6M)

 

I just threw this in for fun. Yeah, let's not take this seriously for now.

 

Also, I'm probably going to focus on just Endgame for the next couple days. Nothing against the other movies, but this takes up a lot of time, and the other films are doing good, but not that good that I need to study them so much.

Edited April 17, 2019 by CoolEric258

[Eric Prime]

18 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

@CoolEric258, with Pulse being subsets of total sales is it possible that Breakthrough and Llorona look depressed relative to their absolute volume of sales because of Endgame? 

I'm...I'm not really sure? FWIW, Super Troopers and I Feel Pretty had solid Mon-Tues jumps. It's probably more just a case of these movies not really catching on, whether it be due to being too niche or bad reviews (La Llorona)

[Porthos]

6 hours ago, VenomXXR said:

 

I don’t remember if you mentioned it, but is this the adjusted or exact for EG?

 

If adjusted, can you provide the exacts (additionally) for a more direct comparison?  

 

5 hours ago, feasby007 said:

Pretty sure it's neither! 

 

I think the numbers provided are the absolutes. Not adjusted or exacts.

 

Also he's sleeping atm, so probably have to wait a few hours for comps  

It's absolute.

 

"adjusted" doesn't apply, as that simply adjusts seat level info at theaters I now have info for but didn't for a previous movie.  I would have had the actual show time information then and now.

 

"exact" is stripping ALL information from theaters that are playing EG but weren't playing IW.  I'm also ONLY applying this to IW and not any other movie for various reasons.

 

If you want an "exact theater showtime weekend count" for EG vs IW I can provide that as an extra, but I have to compile it separately.  I can get it for you within  an hour or so, as there are somethings I want to take care of first this morning.

[Cooper Legion]

7 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

Cumulative (minus first two days)

117% of Infinity War (303M)

337% of Captain Marvel (517.7M)

 

I decided to get rid of the partial data from the second day of Endgame, and just remove the first two days of both Infinity War and Captain Marvel. And again, strong results.

Seems like a good way to handle the missing data. Like-for-like, but no need to guess anything.    

 

 

[Porthos]

 

6 hours ago, VenomXXR said:

Quote

WEEKEND INFO: (all IW information is for 9 days before release)

Fri:   1 sellout/357 showings (+0/+11)    [IW: 0/215]

Sat:  0 sellouts/354 showings (+0/+12)   [IW: 0/216]

Sun: 0 sellouts/329 showings (+0/+1)     [IW: 0/209]

 

I don’t remember if you mentioned it, but is this the adjusted or exact for EG?

 

If adjusted, can you provide the exacts (additionally) for a more direct comparison?  

By special request (added the final IW count for context).

 

Endgame weekend screen count at ONLY the theaters which were also playing Infinity War:

Fri:    1 sellout/314 showings [IW CURRENT: 0/215] [IW FINAL: 2/391]

Sat:  0 sellouts/311 showings [IW CURRENT: 0/216] [IW FINAL: 2/389]

Sun: 0 sellouts/287 showings [IW CURRENT: 0/209] [IW FINAL: 0/370]

 

Further context edited in:  The local drive-in never checks in until about two or three days before release.  That'll add around 7 to 8 showings per night to EG's total eventually, I reckon.  Maybe more if they try to squeeze in double features.

Edited April 17, 2019 by Porthos

[XXRDJisDoctorDoom]

28 minutes ago, Porthos said:

 

By special request (added the final IW count for context).

 

Fri:    1 sellout/314 showings [IW CURRENT: 0/215] [IW FINAL: 2/391]

Sat:  0 sellouts/311 showings [IW CURRENT: 0/216] [IW FINAL: 2/389]

Sun: 0 sellouts/287 showings [IW CURRENT: 0/209] [IW FINAL: 0/370]

 

Further context edited in:  The local drive-in never checks in until about two or three days before release.  That'll add around 7 to 8 showings per night to EG's total eventually, I reckon.  Maybe more if they try to squeeze in double features.

 

 

Much appreciated. I figured in the road to $300m, Sat/Sun need at least 5-10% more showtimes per theater. This makes the comparison in your area easier since I didn’t know how much the new comps added to the total  

 

I don’t think it’s physically possible to add the amount of showings IW added in the last 8 days, but if it could hit 2/3 we would be doing great. 

Edited April 17, 2019 by VenomXXR

[Mulder]

Remember when people were saying the MCU had hit it's peak after AoU and CW 'disappointed'.

[Brainbug]

10 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Remember when people were saying the MCU had hit it's peak after AoU and CW 'disappointed'.

 

I remember all the doom talk when Ant-Man grossed "ONLY" 500M+ worldwide after Age of Ultron became the highest-grossing and most profitable FLOP of all time.

[Mulder]

2 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

I remember all the doom talk when Ant-Man grossed "ONLY" 500M+ worldwide after Age of Ultron became the highest-grossing and most profitable FLOP of all time.

Age of Ultron and Civil War's legs still baffle me. Were AoU and CW just too dark? I'd venture that but IW's legs were insane. It still honestly confuses me.

[Stewart]

9 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

I remember all the doom talk when Ant-Man grossed "ONLY" 500M+ worldwide after Age of Ultron became the highest-grossing and most profitable FLOP of all time.

3 years later almost the exact thing happened:

Quote

I remember all the doom talk when Ant-Man Ant-Man and Wasp grossed "ONLY" 500M+600M+ worldwide after Age of Ultron Infinity War became the highest-grossing and most profitable MCU of all time.

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by feasby007

[john2000]

4 minutes ago, feasby007 said:

3 years later almost the exact thing happened:

 

only 600 

[Brainbug]

14 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Age of Ultron and Civil War's legs still baffle me. Were AoU and CW just too dark? I'd venture that but IW's legs were insane. It still honestly confuses me.

 

Age of Ultron just didnt do anything ... special. Seeing the heroes together wasnt a novelty anymore, the promised dark villain was kind of a joke, the film handeled its many characters in my opinion not nearly as good as the The Avengers (2012) and some scenes (like Thors visions) just felt out-of-place. The whole thing just wasnt as enjoyable as the first one and thus the legs suffered imo.

 

Civil War had the same problems imo, but here they were even worse: Hero vs Hero is great in concept, but doesnt bode well for legs because the whole story is just very serious and sad - but at the same time CW didnt really have any consequences, so ... what was its purpose? Infinity War brushed Civil Wars conflict aside as a joke (Beatles) for a reason. Also, the film is overlong and has pacing issues in my opinion, making it not good for rewatches.

Edited April 17, 2019 by Brainbug