The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Mulder]

7 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

Movies with female leads tends to be more presales heavy, so CM and BTAB probably isn’t the best comparissons.

You mean Jasmine, one of the most iconic Disney princesses, wouldn't be considered a big enough female lead for presales to be driven up?

[Tinalera]

This is first discussion board where im not just contributing discussion but stats that are all collected on here and each person with their geographic location has input to a bigger picture. Its awesome that i can add my little piece to the collective and it actually means something. I look on other sites and BOT has some seems to be a go to site for numbers and info. And the....off topicness is kept to a minimum and while we all have our favorites its nice to see that we can all agree to disagree.

 

I mean its box office discussion...its not serious business.....right?

 

 

[keysersoze123]

Any recent updates from @Deep Wang

 

Aladdin looks like doing better than what i thought previously. it would be good to see MTC numbers to get relative perspective.

[Porthos]

7 minutes ago, Mulder said:

You mean Jasmine, one of the most iconic Disney princesses, wouldn't be considered a big enough female lead for presales to be driven up?

I could be wrong, but I also generally thought that Aladdin was considered "female friendly", for the lack of a better term (apologies for not being able to think of a better one on the spot).  The romance main plot as well as Jasmine being one of the more pro-active "Disney princesses" of the era.

 

The humor of the Genie is of course memorable.  But the love story between Jasmine and Aladdin can't be undersold either, IMO.

[ThomasNicole]

13 minutes ago, Mulder said:

You mean Jasmine, one of the most iconic Disney princesses, wouldn't be considered a big enough female lead for presales to be driven up?

Not like BATB, which is what i said.

Edited May 21, 2019 by ThomasNicole

[Mulder]

Maybe I was weird but when I was growing up Aladdin was always one of the 'girl' Disney movies because it was about a princess, I know I heard it was sold more for boys in the 90s, but at least in the 2000s it was sold as more for girls.

[filmlover]

Everywhere I look Booksmart is being put in the smallest auditoriums while Brightburn is getting decent booking. I'm genuinely confused as to why they put it on Memorial Day weekend (a weekend that already isn't known for being kind to non-tentpole titles). I guess they thought it would work as female counterprogramming to Aladdin...but that already is gonna play more to females than males. Leave it to Annapurna to screw over a potential solid performer, as usual.

[Nova]

While I expect Aladdin to be a 4 quadrant film, I'd be very very shocked if the female/male split wasn't heavily in favor of females say 55%/45% so not as heavy as BATB (60/40) but still more female friendly than not. 

[Porthos]

2 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Maybe I was weird but when I was growing up Aladdin was always one of the 'girl' Disney movies because it was about a princess, I know I heard it was sold more for boys in the 90s, but at least in the 2000s it was sold as more for girls.

I mean, Jasmine was just as much of the star of the cartoon series as Aladdin was.  She led the plot more often than not, at least from what I can recall.

 

She was one of the "Disney Trio" with Belle and Ariel that was THE focus of Disney advertising to women/girls in the mid-90s to mid-00s.  Again, from what I could tell being outside the demo.

[Minnale101]

Loved Aladdin as a kid but I always love Mulan too 

 

aladdin has a lot of soul and imo the best music 

[Nova]

3 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Everywhere I look Booksmart is being put in the smallest auditoriums while Brightburn is getting decent booking. I'm genuinely confused as to why they put it on Memorial Day weekend (a weekend that already isn't known for being kind to non-tentpole titles). I guess they thought it would work as female counterprogramming to Aladdin...but that already is gonna play more to females than males. Leave it to Annapurna to screw over a potential solid performer, as usual.

You could have just wrote: Booksmart released by Annapurna. 

 

We would have understood everything 

[ThomasNicole]

6 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Maybe I was weird but when I was growing up Aladdin was always one of the 'girl' Disney movies because it was about a princess, I know I heard it was sold more for boys in the 90s, but at least in the 2000s it was sold as more for girls.

Aladdin is one of the most balanced Disney classics, this movie never are "for boys" or "for girls".

[Eric is Anxious]

Part of the reason Aladdin arguably has a bit of a "female bent" to it does come down to the Disney Princess line exploding in the 2000s, but I always felt like Aladdin was one of the more gender-neutral releases, since it still followed a guy and the big breakout character was Genie, who appealed to both genders. At the very least, it's more gender neutral compared to something like Beauty and the Beast or Little Mermaid

[Nova]

Just now, ThomasNicole said:

Aladdin is one of the most balanced Disney classics, this movie never are "for boys" or "for girls".

So you're predicting a 50/50 split for the weekend? 

[Mulder]

Just now, ThomasNicole said:

Aladdin is one of the most balanced Disney classics, this movie never are "for boys" or "for girls".

Up until recently, Disney very much gendered what was for boys and what was for girls. Source: Myself growing up in the 2000s

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, Nova said:

You could have just wrote: Booksmart released by Annapurna. 

 

We would have understood everything 

Could've said "Annapoorna" but that might lead one to think Booksmart was a porno if they didn't know better (easy to do, since marketing is largely nonexistent).

[Porthos]

Just now, CoolEric258 said:

Part of the reason Aladdin arguably has a bit of a "female bent" to it does come down to the Disney Princess line exploding in the 2000s, but I always felt like Aladdin was one of the more gender-neutral releases, since it still followed a guy and the big breakout character was Genie, who appealed to both genders. At the very least, it's more gender neutral compared to something like Beauty and the Beast or Little Mermaid

I'd call that pretty fair.  I think @Mulder and @Nova and I were just explaining why women might feel a resonance with the movie that might not be apparent at first glance, leading to a factor in pre-sales.  Just not to the same degree as BatB.

[ThomasNicole]

7 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

Part of the reason Aladdin arguably has a bit of a "female bent" to it does come down to the Disney Princess line exploding in the 2000s, but I always felt like Aladdin was one of the more gender-neutral releases, since it still followed a guy and the big breakout character was Genie, who appealed to both genders. At the very least, it's more gender neutral compared to something like Beauty and the Beast or Little Mermaid

This.

 

Of course this is probably having a really good portion of box office coming from females because of Jasmine, but not like BATB which it's first day have 72% female and only 28% males. Comparing BTAB with Aladdin seems nonsense...

Edited May 21, 2019 by ThomasNicole

[Nova]

Just now, filmlover said:

Could've said "Annapoorna" but that might lead one to think Booksmart was a porno if they didn't know better (easy to do, since marketing is largely nonexistent).

My fiancé was watching a marathon of Keeping Up With The Kardashians the other day and Booksmart plus Dark Phoenix commercials came on every other commercial break. Don't know what that means 🤔 

[Brainbug]

Interesting debate. Among me and my group of movie fan(atics), Aladdin was always considered a "Boy" movie, mainly because of ... well Aladdin beeing the lead, Jafar and the Geenie having that Robin Williams voice. In contrast, movies like Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast and especially Mulan were all "girl" movies.