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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

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Really depends on what you're looking for, but usually the most important takeaway for just a casual glance is the comp.  More on that in a bit.   But even that is highly dependent on a movie being either in a similar genre or having a similar pre-sale pattern as folks will buy tickets at different times during a pre-sale window thanks to a very long list of factors.   Add in that movies will have different promotional schedules during their pre-sales (review embargoes, TV ca
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MODERATION:   Hi, everyone. It’s 6 o’clock in the morning. I have not gone to bed yet. And I am tired. And I know it’s going to be a very long weekend. Here is the new rule.   This thread is for numbers and data. Please post your theater updates. Please post your comparable data. And please talk about that comparable data here.    If you wish to do a deep dive on why you think that data might or might not suck, then take it to the respective thread of the movie in ques
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1 minute ago, Tinalera said:

The reissue will be interesting. How many will resee endgame just for the extra bits? Be fascinating of this made 50 mil plus in sales just on extra stuff

I know of several people online that haven’t seen yet and are using the re-release to catch up before Spider-Man: Far From Home.

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I'm not seeing much pickup for AE locally yet.

Since 10 am this morning i've seen 18 more tickets sold for 3 theaters near me. All but 2 of them for Fri and Sat. 

I have 0 tickets sold for Monday and 10 sold for Sunday across the 3 theaters.  just over 40% of the showings from Fri through Mon have 0 tickets sold.

 

I am still not convinced this will do more than 5-6M total for the weekend and I think the dropoff on Sunday is going to be quite large. I think the real core will show up. But that will be about it. I wouldn't expect much walk-ups for it.

 

Unless this gets a much bigger push and a China re-release I don't think it will make enough to get over Avatar.

 

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15 minutes ago, RamblinRed said:

I'm not seeing much pickup for AE locally yet.

Since 10 am this morning i've seen 18 more tickets sold for 3 theaters near me. All but 2 of them for Fri and Sat. 

I have 0 tickets sold for Monday and 10 sold for Sunday across the 3 theaters.  just over 40% of the showings from Fri through Mon have 0 tickets sold.

 

I am still not convinced this will do more than 5-6M total for the weekend and I think the dropoff on Sunday is going to be quite large. I think the real core will show up. But that will be about it. I wouldn't expect much walk-ups for it.

 

Unless this gets a much bigger push and a China re-release I don't think it will make enough to get over Avatar.

 

It is already clear that with this kind of improper "re-release", How can people expect it to pass Avatar. The point now is to close the gap as much as possible.

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BUY TIME	      TICKETS	MOVIE TITLE
--------------------------------------------------
2019-06-26 15:00:00	952	Toy Story 4
2019-06-26 15:00:00	370	Annabelle Comes Home
2019-06-26 15:00:00	218	Spider-Man Far From Home (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	123	Avengers Endgame (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	122	Aladdin (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	99	Yesterday (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	87	Men in Black International
2019-06-26 15:00:00	82	The Secret Life of Pets 2
2019-06-26 15:00:00	77	Toy Story 4 3D
2019-06-26 15:00:00	71	Rocketman
2019-06-26 15:00:00	53	Childs Play (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	51	John Wick Chapter 3 – Parabellum
2019-06-26 15:00:00	47	The Lion King (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	39	Godzilla King of the Monsters (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	38	Anna (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	28	Late Night (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	27	Shaft (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	25	Dark Phoenix
2019-06-26 15:00:00	23	Toy Story 4 The IMAX 2D Experience
2019-06-26 15:00:00	22	Spider-Man Far From Home The IMAX 2D Experience (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	15	Midsommar
2019-06-26 15:00:00	14	Spider-Man Far From Home 3D (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	12	Annabelle Comes Home The IMAX 2D Experience
2019-06-26 15:00:00	10	The Dead Dont Die

 

Spidey ... :ohmygod:

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5 minutes ago, Sunny Max said: 

BUY TIME	      TICKETS	MOVIE TITLE
--------------------------------------------------
2019-06-26 15:00:00	952	Toy Story 4
2019-06-26 15:00:00	370	Annabelle Comes Home
2019-06-26 15:00:00	218	Spider-Man Far From Home (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	123	Avengers Endgame (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	122	Aladdin (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	99	Yesterday (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	87	Men in Black International
2019-06-26 15:00:00	82	The Secret Life of Pets 2
2019-06-26 15:00:00	77	Toy Story 4 3D
2019-06-26 15:00:00	71	Rocketman
2019-06-26 15:00:00	53	Childs Play (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	51	John Wick Chapter 3 – Parabellum
2019-06-26 15:00:00	47	The Lion King (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	39	Godzilla King of the Monsters (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	38	Anna (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	28	Late Night (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	27	Shaft (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	25	Dark Phoenix
2019-06-26 15:00:00	23	Toy Story 4 The IMAX 2D Experience
2019-06-26 15:00:00	22	Spider-Man Far From Home The IMAX 2D Experience (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	15	Midsommar
2019-06-26 15:00:00	14	Spider-Man Far From Home 3D (2019)
2019-06-26 15:00:00	12	Annabelle Comes Home The IMAX 2D Experience
2019-06-26 15:00:00	10	The Dead Dont Die

 

Spidey ... :ohmygod:

yep and endgame just keeps going

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9 minutes ago, PKMLover said:

It is already clear that with this kind of improper "re-release", How can people expect it to pass Avatar. The point now is to close the gap as much as possible.

Overseas will be the key if AEG really wants to beat Avatar ... domestic contribution is just a bonus ..

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1 minute ago, Sunny Max said:

Overseas will be the key if AEG really wants to beat Avatar ... domestic contribution is just a bonus ..

Yes. And the overseas situation so far with this kind of improper "re-release" is even worse

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Yes. And the overseas situation so far with this kind of improper "re-release" is even worse

? how exactly ? when we have even less details ? i think that you are too quick to judge in a thing that you dont have much info

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3 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Isn't that the definition of front loaded. if this ratio persists its looking a huge 2nd day drop.

By this logic the Friday of CM (insert any other movie with decent-to-great presales) would have been below the previews since its preview sales were above Friday at this point, and CM's Saturday would have dropped from its Friday for the same reason. That's why you can't really project the daily trend just from PS ratios. Both Day 2 and 3 are more than double AMATW at the same point, and well below CM at the same point, just like OD+MN is for CM and AMATW OD+previews.

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8 minutes ago, john2000 said:

? how exactly ? when we have even less details ? i think that you are too quick to judge in a thing that you dont have much info

This time is already early morning Thursday in the Estern zone and many countries still dont have the announcement yet, including major markets such as SK, Japan, India,... so it means they wont have it. Moreover, in case of those who confirmed, there are very limited showtime and days. There are countries only have 1-2 days for this. 

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3 minutes ago, PKMLover said:

This time is already early morning Thursday in the Estern zone and many countries still dont have the announcement yet, including major markets such as SK, Japan, India,... so it means they wont have it. Moreover, in case of those who confirmed, there are very limited showtime and days. There are countries only have 1-2 days for this. 

again too little info, we dont know how things will go, for example i heard that some other countries will have the re release 11 july, yeah dom will help more, but dont underestimated os, mexico alone can give 1 + mill

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By this logic the Friday of CM (insert any other movie with decent-to-great presales) would have been below the previews since its preview sales were above Friday at this point, and CM's Saturday would have dropped from its Friday for the same reason. That's why you can't really project the daily trend just from PS ratios. Both Day 2 and 3 are more than double AMATW at the same point, and well below CM at the same point, just like OD+MN is for CM and AMATW OD+previews.

Shows on earlier days sell more but Spidey is skewed very much on OD(PS is like 55% at this point) as opposed to Cap Marvel where Thu to Fri to Sat were fairly close to each other. Only other movie which I remember was so skewed recently was Zilla and that is having a frontloaded OW and run.


 

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Cap Marvel (T-5)

Thu -
2d - 33485
3d: 3450
Imax 2d: 8236

Fri
2d - 26253
3d: 2366
Imax 2d: 5264

Sat
2d: 23294
3d: 2331
Imax 2d: 4342

 

Spidey (2PM)

 

4985    2019-07-01    MON    Spider-Man Far From Home (74)
33316    2019-07-02    TUE        Spider-Man Far From Home (505)
7492    2019-07-03    WED        Spider-Man Far From Home (121)
4744    2019-07-04    THU        Spider-Man Far From Home (60)
4749    2019-07-05    FRI        Spider-Man Far From Home (72)
5006    2019-07-06    SAT        Spider-Man Far From Home (50)
2178        2019-07-07    SUN        Spider-Man Far From Home (23)
268        2019-07-08    MON    Spider-Man Far From Home  (3)
824        2019-07-09    TUE        Spider-Man Far From Home  (16)

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, PKMLover said:

This time is already early morning Thursday in the Estern zone and many countries still dont have the announcement yet, including major markets such as SK, Japan, India,... so it means they wont have it. Moreover, in case of those who confirmed, there are very limited showtime and days. There are countries only have 1-2 days for this. 

It doesn't mean that they won't have it. It IS A global re-release just like the Russo Brothers have stated, but things like this take time, and we will end up getting the details soon enough. Be patient.

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7 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Shows on earlier days sell more but Spidey is skewed very much on OD(PS is like 55% at this point) as opposed to Cap Marvel where Thu to Fri to Sat were fairly close to each other. Only other movie which I remember was so skewed recently was Zilla and that is having a frontloaded OW and run.


 

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Cap Marvel (T-5)

Thu -
2d - 33485
3d: 3450
Imax 2d: 8236

Fri
2d - 26253
3d: 2366
Imax 2d: 5264

Sat
2d: 23294
3d: 2331
Imax 2d: 4342

 

Spidey (2PM)

 

4985    2019-07-01    MON    Spider-Man Far From Home (74)
33316    2019-07-02    TUE        Spider-Man Far From Home (505)
7492    2019-07-03    WED        Spider-Man Far From Home (121)
4744    2019-07-04    THU        Spider-Man Far From Home (60)
4749    2019-07-05    FRI        Spider-Man Far From Home (72)
5006    2019-07-06    SAT        Spider-Man Far From Home (50)
2178        2019-07-07    SUN        Spider-Man Far From Home (23)
268        2019-07-08    MON    Spider-Man Far From Home  (3)
824        2019-07-09    TUE        Spider-Man Far From Home  (16)

 

 

 

It doesn't have previews. Hence the OD is getting both preview and pure OD demand 

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2 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

It doesn't mean that they won't have it. It IS A global re-release just like the Russo Brothers have stated, but things like this take time, and we will end up getting the details soon enough. Be patient.

 also it has been confirmed that the re release will happen in argentina on july 11, so that could happen with more countries

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2 minutes ago, john2000 said:

 also it has been confirmed that the re release will happen in argentina on july 11, so that could happen with more countries

Exactly. Like I’ve said, things like this take time. I just hope here in Brazil we get confirmation for that to happen before Spider-Man: Far From Home’s midnight. Big opportunity there for one hell of double features.

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1 minute ago, ZattMurdock said:

Exactly. Like I’ve said, things like this take time. I just hope here in Brazil we get confirmation for that to happen before Spider-Man: Far From Home’s midnight. Big opportunity there for one hell of double features.

but it has been confirmed 

 

https://cinepop.com.br/confirmado-vingadores-ultimato-tambem-sera-relancado-no-brasil-214603

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