The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Inceptionzq]

16 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Yep should be case elsewhere too.

 

I am being lazy here. Can you and @Porthos post the final numbers you guys had for Post Pandemic flicks, GvK, AQP2 and Cruella.

GvK: 4773 tickets. Only had 9 theaters though. The Black Widow amount in those theaters is 534 tickets.

 

AQP2: 2205 tickets

 

Cruella: 678 tickets

[charlie Jatinder]

2 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

GvK: 4773 tickets. Only had 9 theaters though. The Black Widow amount in those theaters is 534 tickets.

 

AQP2: 2205 tickets

 

Cruella: 678 tickets

GvK had PWPs too right.

 

AQP2 seems like was 0.5% of Nationwide numbers, and so was Cruella.

 

F9 by your numbers is also around ~$1.15M so far.

[Inceptionzq]

3 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

GvK had PWPs too right.

22 $150 PWPs, 4 $200, 4 $250, 13 $300

[charlie Jatinder]

4 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

22 $150 PWPs, 4 $200, 4 $250, 13 $300

So GvK around 0.6%, just like Sact town, that makes sense since less theaters were open for GvK on WED.

[charlie Jatinder]

AMC Empire 25

 

F9

 

IMAX - 78 (2 shows)

Dolby - 91 (2 shows)

Prime - 53 (2 shows)

Standard - 7 (9 shows)

 

Total - 229 (15 shows) ~$5.4K

 

Black Widow

 

IMAX - 185 ( 2 shows)

Dolby - 179 (2 shows)

Prime - 76 (2 shows)

Standard - 39 (2 shows)

 

Total - 479 (8 shows) ~$11K

 

[Legion Again]

So, the day 1 sales are there. The capacity will be there. We’ve seen movies do surprisingly well with 0 days windows albeit none at this scale.   
 

... let’s go 

 

 

[Eric Duncan]

On 6/9/2021 at 11:40 PM, Eric is Full of Pride said:

F9 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-15 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	52	702	5596	12.54%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 3

Total Seats Added Today: 130

Total Seats Sold Today: 38

 

Comp

0.843x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-15 Before Release (8.18M)

2.071x of A Quiet Place Part II's Thu+Fri T-15 Before Release (40.11M)

F9 Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-13 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	53	785	8686	9.04%

 

Total Showings Added in the Last Two Days: 1

Total Seats Added in the Last Two Days: 3,090

Total Seats Sold in the Last Two Days: 83

 

Comp

0.813x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-13 Before Release (7.89M)

1.953x of A Quiet Place Part II's Thu+Fri T-13 Before Release (37.82M)

 

So to clarify two things:

 

1. Yes, I forgot to report sales yesterday. Long story short, family came over, I got both distracted and exhausted from it that I could barely stay awake, and then I passed out when I tried to tally up tickets. Sorry for the incomplete picture, but this stuff happens, and I hope you guys understand that I was a bit too busy last night.

 

2. The massive seats jump may seem confusing. Basically, Regal theaters here have just shifted their social distancing policy and are now allowing zero social distancing at all. F9 is reaping those rewards here. AMC is still using social distancing well into Black Widow's opening, but that could change once we get closer to release.

 

And now, onto the real big boy.

[charlie Jatinder]

Over 1500 or bust

 

Edited June 12, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Eric Duncan]

Black Widow Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-27 and Counting (Thu)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	66	815	10055	8.11%

 

@charlie Jatinder

 

So....

 

Godzilla vs. Kong Final Tickets Sold (Wed): 3,877

A Quiet Place Part II (Thu): 1,967

A Quiet Place Part II (Thu+Fri): 5,179

Cruella (Thu): 409

Cruella (Thu+Fri): 1,273

 

You asked for it, I delivered.

[charlie Jatinder]

Just 815. I guess that's a bust.

 

Thanks @Eric is Full of Pride

 

Philly was 0.45% for AQP2 while only 0.3% for Cruella. GvK excl PWPs is 0.43% as well.

 

This will suggest $1.9M ish for F9 and $2M ish for BW. A bit more than others are telling but that gotta be due to AQP2 being sort of underindexing in Philly I guess.

[Porthos]

*some intensive rabbit hole searching later*

 

Sheeeeeeeet, kill me now.  Like, seriously. 

 

===

 

Late last night I noticed that Cinema West yanked its social distance seat markers on both its corp site and on Fandango.  Annoying for that night on the F9 track, but I was able to work around it.  And, hey, maybe that meant they were dumping social distancing like Cinemark did.  Did some digging on Fandango and ran across some corp speak that suggested they just might be doing that at the end of the month

 

So this afternoon I started checking showtime after showtime looking for showings that obviously showed a lack of social distancing and I thought I found a couple of showings in other Cali towns that did just that.  But it kept gnawing at me, so I went back and checked and found out that those were damaged/unavailable seats and not sold ones.  Terrrific.

 

To make a long-ish story shorter, I didn't want to waste money by purchasing a seat, checking out a showing, and then canceling it.  But then I remembered the "hold" feature that happens when you select a seat and then go to the payment page.  So I "purchased" a couple of seats to a rando showing and while I was still in the checkout page opened up another window and checked that showing.

 

YEP.  Social distancing still in effect BUT WITH NO WAY OF TELLING WHAT IS A SOCIAL DISTANCE-ED SEAT AND WHAT IS A PURCHASED ONE.

 

me right about then:

 

 

Now I got one of two broad paths here.

 

A] I just excise these showings from my count entirely.  Just lop them off, ignore them, and adjust as needed for historical comps. If they ever actually yank social distancing from their showings or bring back social distancing markers, reintergrate them into the count at that time.

 

B] "Eyeball" what are the socially distanced seats and what aren't and come up with an approximate number of sold seats for those showings.  It's not that difficult to do when it's a low amount of seats purchased.  Degree of difficulty rises as the number of seats purchased rises.

 

I'm tempted to do the latter, but the perfectionist in me is leaning to the former.

 

Now this isn't that big of a deal, as it's only three theaters out of the seventeen reserved seating theaters I am tracking.  On the other hand, one of the theaters is pretty much in the "A-tier" of local theaters and another solidly in the B-tier, so the presence would be missed (though can be adjusted for, as I said).

 

I am prooobably gonna junk that data coz I. DO. NOT. LIKE. COMPROMISED. DATA.

 

On the other hand....

 

 

IT TASKS ME.  IT TASKS ME TO HAVE THIS DATA AND NOT USE IT

 

...

 

Gonna stew for a while.  

 

(this means Sacto reports will be a while)

[charlie Jatinder]

14 minutes ago, Porthos said:

"Eyeball"

[Porthos]

*some stewing later*

 

Yeah.  Junking it.  It is theoretically possible Fandango put that social distance hold on its own and it would go away in time.  But as I look at nearly all seats purchased so far at those three theaters, I don't think that's what's going on.

 

When it comes right down to it, I'd rather adjust with good, verified, data than try to "guess" with compromised data.  If Cinema West ever makes it clear what is going on with purchased seats, they'll go back into the count.

 

But, for now, can't use them.  Does mean that can't look back at my prior posts for an "easy" comp, but, eh.  I got archived data on my computer that I can dig out for my comps.

 

(thanks for nothin', Cinema West )

 

Reports up in around 90m or so...

[charlie Jatinder]

Just to be sure if AMC Empire 25 wasn't an outlier, looking AMC Lincoln Square 13

 

Black Widow

 

IMAX - 451 (3 shows) 2 are almost SOLD OUT

Dolby - 57 (3 shows)

Standard - 4 (4 shows)

 

Total - 512 (10 shows) $13.3K

 

F9

 

IMAX - 203 (2 shows) 1 show almost SOLD OUT

Dolby - 95 (2 shows)

Standard - 2 (2 shows)

 

Total - 300 (6 shows) $7.9K

 

Not as big difference as Empire but still a big difference.

[Porthos]

16 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

 

(otherwise known as, "know when to hold 'em, know when to fold them, know when to walk away")

Edited June 12, 2021 by Porthos

[Legion Again]

@keysersoze123 What style of gif offerings are required to summon you 👀

 

[charlie Jatinder]

9 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

AMC Westminster 24

Total

137

1980

6.92%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

153

1939

7.89%

  

2 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

AMC Empire 25

Black Widow

Total - 479 (8 shows) ~$11K

 

22 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

AMC Lincoln Square 13

 

Black Widow

Total - 512 (10 shows) $13.3K

  

4 hours ago, Cap said:

AMC Boston

 

Black Widow - 156

 

 

Quote

 

AMC Burbank

 

Black Widow - 161 (2 shows) ALMOST SOLD OUT

 

6 done. 500 something to go. 😶

Edited June 12, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[charlie Jatinder]

Seems pretty safe to assume we will get biggest 24 hours pre-sales for an MCU solo film behind Endgame and Infinity War. 

 

Though can use confirmation from @Porthos data, as I believe that's the oldest one we have here for old comps.

Edited June 12, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Inceptionzq]

10 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Black Widow Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

137

1980

6.92%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

153

1939

7.89%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
598	N/A	21278	2.81%	15	112

 

7 hours and it's already ahead of Fast 9...

Black Widow Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

149

1980

7.53%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

180

1939

9.28%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST ~11 HOURS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
743	145	21278	3.49%	15	112

 

Thought about doing a 24 hour update, but don't really wanna get up that early. There shouldn't be much ticket sales for the next 6 hours anyways, so this will be close to the 24 hour figure. 

[Porthos]

On 6/10/2021 at 10:44 PM, Porthos said:

 

F9 Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-14 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	91	13181	14150	969	6.85%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

71

 

T-14 Comp                    PERHAPS LOL - USE WITH CAUTION

	%		Sold T-14	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
AQP II	181.91		54	514		6/63	2214/2728	18.84%		8.73m
F9 (AQP adj)	---		67	935		0/91	13087/14022	6.67%		---
KotM	152.48		46	606		0/87	11010/11616	5.22%		8.64m
F9 (KotM adj)	---		64	924		0/91	10768/11692	7.90%		---

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE #1:  The comp for KotM has been adjusted downward by 10% to reflect theaters closures in much of Canada.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE #2:  F9 (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold if I did not track D-BOX seating in the region, which I started to do with this track.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE #3:  F9 (KotM adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for King of the Monsters.

 

F9 Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-13 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	79	11432	12415*	983	7.92%

* NOTE: Two showings had two seats removed from their seat maps resulting in four less seats in the region overall.

 

Total Seats Sold Today

48

 

UNRELIABLE DATA REMOVED (see here and here for explanation)

Total Showings Removed	12
Total Seats Removed	1730
Total Sold Seats Removed	34

 

T-13 Comp                    USE WITH CAUTION

	%		Sold T-13	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
AQP II (adj)	177.51		31	538		5/65	2359/2897	18.57%		8.52m
F9 (AQP adj)	---		46	955		0/79	11340/12295	7.77%		---

SELLOUT NOTE:  Locally, AQP II was still under a capacity cap, which greatly inflated the number of sellouts as well as depressing the amount of seats available.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE 1:  AQP II (adj)  is the amount of seats sold after the theaters which currently have unreliable data polluting their seat maps have been removed.

ADJUSTMENT NOTE 2:  F9 (AQP adj) is the amount of seats sold without DBOX seats counted, which started on this track.

 

(KotM comp removed due to not having easily accessible archived seat map level data that far back)

Edited June 13, 2021 by Porthos
accidently put in the wrong number of total seats sold for the adj AQP II