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[a2k]

I feel Annabelle2 doing similar to Conj2 is something that should really be talked about more. How the hell did it happen? Conj2 had good reception too. But it did 102 compared to 137 of Conj1. Then AB2 follows a badly received AB1. With good reception (though not as good as Conj2 just by looking at BOT feedback), it matches/nearly matches Conj2!

 

One is a spinoff sequel the other was a sequel proper released a year eariler. It's like RO-sequel (2018) doing more than SW8 (2017). Or a hypothetical Puss in Boots 2 doing more than Shrek 4 after releasing a year later.

 

 

[Boxofficerules]

5 hours ago, grim22 said:

Especially with IT. WB horror double features might help.

Also you might have people going to see IT, finding it sold out and deciding to see Annabelle instead.

[forg]

I hope the studios do better for August 2018. Labor Day weekend might be not good for new releases but they can give good holds for earlier August releases

[Mockingjay Raphael]

That's an unexpectedly great drop for Annabelle: Creation, $100m is back on track. I can't believe that both Universal and Warner are going to have two Horror movies grossing $100m at same year, it never happened for a studio before, to have two Horror movies grossing this mark at same year, let alone two studios at same year, massive results for both. TCU will also be the first Horror franchise to have three movies crossing the century mark. 

[Mockingjay Raphael]

1 hour ago, a2knet said:

I feel Annabelle2 doing similar to Conj2 is something that should really be talked about more. How the hell did it happen? Conj2 had good reception too. But it did 102 compared to 137 of Conj1. Then AB2 follows a badly received AB1. With good reception (though not as good as Conj2 just by looking at BOT feedback), it matches/nearly matches Conj2!

 

One is a spinoff sequel the other was a sequel proper released a year eariler. It's like RO-sequel (2018) doing more than SW8 (2017). Or a hypothetical Puss in Boots 2 doing more than Shrek 4 after releasing a year later.

 

 

Lack of competition, simple as that, if TC2 had the same advantage of Annabelle: Creation, it would have came close to the total of the original movie. 

[Boxofficerules]

3 minutes ago, Mockingjay Raphael said:

That's an unexpectedly great drop for Annabelle: Creation, $100m is back on track. I can't believe that both Universal and Warner are going to have two Horror movies grossing $100m at same year, it never happened for a studio before, to have two Horror movies grossing this mark at same year, let alone two studios at same year, massive results for both. TCU will also be the first Horror franchise to have three movies crossing the century mark. 

Annabelle ain't at $100 million yet. Although if Sony can fudge Passengers, why can't WB fudge Annabelle?

[mahnamahna]

While everything has held great, it makes you wonder what would have happened if a studio had released some sort of major release last weekend.

 

The Mummy, Valerian, Only the Brave, Geostorm and Blade Runner 2049 are all films that could have benefited in a barren August slate. 

 

 

 

 

 

[MCKillswitch123]

10 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

Annabelle ain't at $100 million yet. Although if Sony can fudge Passengers, why can't WB fudge Annabelle?

Well, Sony had the advantage that Passengers was already at around 99M by the time they gave it the fudgejob. WB will only fudge Annabelle if possible/necessary, as right now, it has performed beat for beat identically to Sausage Party, which finished with 97M, despite a blatant fudge attempt by Sony. However, the Labor Day hold is noticeably stronger for Creation than it was for the relatively frontloaded SP, and It's arrival next weekend could be a shot of adrenaline (despite the obvious bump it will take on It's OW) due to double features... but it could also be its downfall (legs-wise) for understandable reasons.

 

Creation can make 100M, but honestly, that depends on whether or not it survives It's opening and manages a decent hold.

[Premium George]

If not annabelle than IT.

[WrathOfHan]

Highballing Wind River paid off  

[John Marston]

2 hours ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

Thank GOD that at least all the holdovers are gonna have great holds. Makes perfect sense tbh, due to how backloaded last weekend was (Mayweather vs. McGregor + Hurricane Harvey taking its biggest toll).

 

Especially glad for Wind River's strong increase (also, Despicable Me 3 and Homecoming increasing on their own too.... say what you will about the movies, but it's undeniable that their legs were terrific - and the "no competition" excuse doesn't work all that well because Emoji had little impact in DM3's run). Leap having the smallest drop in the top 10 is actually not too surprising but still impressive (I don't buy Logan Lucky doing the same 4.1M for the 3-day weekend though, as it has a smaller Friday than Leap and animated movies tend to have bigger increases on Saturday).

If anything, It will come to help. As both are WB horror releases. double features will be quite plentiful.

Of course the barren July and August helped those movies. Nothing wrong with thatv

[John Marston]

35 minutes ago, mahnamahna said:

While everything has held great, it makes you wonder what would have happened if a studio had released some sort of major release last weekend.

 

The Mummy, Valerian, Only the Brave, Geostorm and Blade Runner 2049 are all films that could have benefited in a barren August slate. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One of them should have taken Dark Tower's release date no doubt about it

[TwoMisfits]

So, how much do 130K new subscribers help a weekend box office when paying full price?  About $2-3M total for the weekend BO (if they each see one movie with their new passes this weekend?)  Maybe $4-$6M if they decide to see 2 films?

 

Now, it could actually be more than 130K new subscribers since MoviePass blew through their 150K subscriber goal already...http://deadline.com/2017/08/moviepass-passed-150000-sub-target-from-price-drop-publicity-1202154481/  

 

I know many who got their cards this week, so the effects of the deal should start being felt this weekend...should make for an interesting fall...especially since I'm sure Atom and Fandango will probably keep trying to counter this plan with their own deals...we could see a total return of the March BO when the wars between Atom and Fandango were greatest...now, we have Moviepass adding to the price wars...

 

 

[MCKillswitch123]

21 minutes ago, John Marston said:

Of course the barren July and August helped those movies. Nothing wrong with thatv

Sure they did, no question; but I think some people would make the argument that that's the only reason they had great legs, and not really the way I see it.

[RyneOh1040]

14 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

So, how much do 130K new subscribers help a weekend box office when paying full price?  About $2-3M total for the weekend BO (if they each see one movie with their new passes this weekend?)  Maybe $4-$6M if they decide to see 2 films?

 

Now, it could actually be more than 130K new subscribers since MoviePass blew through their 150K subscriber goal already...http://deadline.com/2017/08/moviepass-passed-150000-sub-target-from-price-drop-publicity-1202154481/  

 

I know many who got their cards this week, so the effects of the deal should start being felt this weekend...should make for an interesting fall...especially since I'm sure Atom and Fandango will probably keep trying to counter this plan with their own deals...we could see a total return of the March BO when the wars between Atom and Fandango were greatest...now, we have Moviepass adding to the price wars...

 

 

me and my roommates all got ours last week so yeah could def be in play.

[TwoMisfits]

10 minutes ago, RyneOh1040 said:

me and my roommates all got ours last week so yeah could def be in play.

So, how many movies have you seen since you got it (and how many this weekend:)...we'll use you and extrapolate a really crappy BO plus-up estimate:)...

[Brainbug]

Could It take the record of having the biggest box office %-share of the weekend next week? I believe AoU still holds that record.

[a2k]

Post Alien Covfefe, WB releases look like WONDR, DUNKIRK, AB:C, IT, BR49, JL

 

Considering AB:C is 9.7m away from 100m after a 6.9m 3-day / 8.6m 4-day, I think chances of hitting 100m are very good.

 

So if BR49 does not play spoil sport, they could have 6 back to back century films.

 

Looking at movies that released wide, Disney is on a roll after PETE'S DRAGON fell below 100m. THOR3, COCO and SW8 next! That will make it 10 in a row.

 

1	65	Cars 3	BV	$149,137,869	4,256	$53,688,680	4,256	6/16/17
2	55	Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales	BV	$172,083,066	4,276	$62,983,253	4,276	5/26/17
3	12	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2	BV	$389,429,205	4,347	$146,510,104	4,347	5/5/17
4	472	Born in China	BV	$13,873,211	1,508	$4,790,367	1,508	4/21/17
5	4	Beauty and the Beast (2017)	BV	$504,014,165	4,210	$174,750,616	4,210	3/17/17
6	3	Rogue One: A Star Wars Story	BV	$532,177,324	4,157	$155,081,681	4,157	12/16/16
7	29	Moana	BV	$248,757,044	3,875	$56,631,401	3,875	11/23/16
8	36	Doctor Strange	BV	$232,641,920	3,882	$85,058,311	3,882	11/4/16
9	523	Queen of Katwe	BV	$8,874,389	1,259	$304,933	52	9/23/16
10	484	The Light Between Oceans	BV	$12,545,979	1,500	$4,765,838	1,500	9/2/16
11	142	Pete's Dragon (2016)	BV	$76,233,151	3,702	$21,514,095	3,702	8/12/16

 

note: By today's standards I will go with 2000+ theaters as 'wide' at some point in release. LINCOLN's widest TC was 2174. Other leggy movies like ARGO, HIDDEN FIGURES went 3000+ for a few weeks. GET OUT's highest TC was 2781. So 2000 TC is the least one realistically needs for 100m dom imo.

[the beast]

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Dunkirk grossed an estimated $930K on Friday. 43-Day total stands at $175.56M.

[Maxmoser3]

Annabelle should make $90 million for the 4-day weekend. Weekly earn between $92-$93 million. September 10th should have it at $4-$5 million for the weekend, and should be between $96-$99 million. The film should make $100-$105 million domestic.