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[cannastop]

I'm concerned for American cinema's viability starting in the 20s.

 

Can they continue plumbing the depths of Marvel and Star Wars? DC?

Edited June 6, 2019 by cannastop

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Summer 2001 Predictions

Week 1

The Mummy Returns – The Mummy 2 takes 60M OW joining The Phantom Menace and The Lost World.  Record opening weekend 10% over still fresh Hannibal (58m), 10% over X-Men (55m), The Grinch (55m), 50% over The Mummy (43m).  The special effects look to be the epitome of X-Men, Phantom Menace, Mission Impossible 2, and Gladiator.  The Mummy and The Matrix created dvd foundation underneath The Phantom Menace.  Now 2 years later, The Mummy Returns is the answer to the home video market with the most realistic CGI scenes from an epic sci-fi adventure.  This is the next invasion of cinema.  Pearl Harbor is considered competition with Titanic’s record, and the lopsided forecast would have Pearl Harbor coasting in around 2000’s Cast Away’s (234m) or the tiring cume of other recent competitive lethargic blockbusters with 2000’s Hannibal (160m), What Women Want and The Perfect Storm’s (183m). The Mummy Returns – 60m+ OW / 225m Domestic - (200-300m)

Week 2

A Knight’s Tale – an unexpected 3,000 theaters is given to hype up the rock n’roll metal action tale that is rocking out TVs with advertisements.  If this release is driven with more epic battles than Gladiator, then it should play through competition for the solid 2-month run and into summer’s top ten.  – 20+ OW / 75m Domestic – (75-150)

 

 

 

Week 3

Shrek – Third weekend of summer, Shrek is the upside-down CGI fairy tale emerging from thin air with an all-star voice cast.  Last year had groundbreaking CGI movie Dinosaur open with a mini-38m record, will Shrek be able to outpace last year’s calendar record?  A Knight’s Tale, The Mummy Returns, and Pearl Harbor bring new eye candy, and Shrek is the PG-friendly CGI alternative. – 40+ OW / 160m Domestic

 

 

 

Week 4

Pearl Harbor – The commercials have this bringing the drama of Saving Private Ryan with an eventful  soundtrack.   Forecasters recognize this with Titanic and the hope of Pearl Harbor turning into an event film.  The Mummy Returns turned out to be an average sequel and crashed it’s way over The Lost World’s all time opening weekend record.  The hype feels like anything short of 65m OW & 90m 4-day Memorial day will mean that 400m+ domestic will require Academy Awards WOM.  – 65+ OW / 350 domestic

 

 

 

Week 5

The Animal – The fifth weekend of the summer has the dumb comedy waiting to prevail so take a deep breath, calm down, and root for it to be better than Little Nicky and at least cause a laugh riot to devour into Shrek’s records.  – 22M OW 70m domestic

 

 

 

What’s the Worst That Could Happen? – Martin Lawrence is a box office face with 1999’s Life opening at #1 between The Matrix and The Mummy, then 1999’s Blue Streak opening at #1 the weekend after Stigmata, and then last June’s 2000 Big Momma’s House securing 26m/118m domestic as a romantic comedy with brief goofy action.  Danny Devito looks ready to tackle Martin Lawrence after last year’s flop Drowning Mona.  Last June had Big Momma’s House, Shanghai Noon, Gone in 60 Seconds, Mission Impossible II, and Shaft leading the action comedy charge.  Now The Animal and What’s the Worst That Could Happen should be excellent entertainment to lead at the summer box office in front of A Knight’s Tale’s disappointing numbers after 4 weekends.  – 20m OW / 70 domestic

 

 

 

Week 6

Swordfish leads the sixth weekend of summer into June.  The $102 million budget on Swordfish in the deficit of John Travolta’s Battlefield Earth will give him the majority of the internet’s clicks with online   controversy as his presence could potentially destroy this risky hiatus shoot em’ up flick with fans standing up the film as a political statement.  Swordish looks to be a techno-action thriller that might dip into action science fiction and will hopefully drive faster than Gone in 60 Seconds.  – 24m OW / 85 domestic 

Evolution – Early teasers made it seem like an action sci-fi romp.  David Duchovny from 1998’s The X-Files and riding 2000’s Return to Me is sweet casting with the Ghostbusters director and Stifler from American Pie and the disappointing box office of Road Trip from last year.  The $80 million picture sure looks to be like the one to believe in, planting it’s flag as an alien invasion teaser for us to embrace.  The world’s audiences coughed out Pearl Harbor.  Evolution > Mummy Returns in June?  - 29m OW / 90 domestic

 

 

 

Week 7

Lara Croft: Tomb Raider – 7^th weekend of summer, middle of June, Tomb Raider - how much?  The budget is $115 million which is tidy with bad reviews and 100-minute runtime.  If this is supposed to drag Godzilla by its tail at the box office, what kind of treat are we getting with this adaptation?  This should match Batman Forever and Mission Impossible 2.  Atlantis is opening as competition and is supposed to be from another world too - 60m OW / 150 domestic

Atlantis: The Lost Empire – Disney 2D animation shows off new colors after Tarzan (1999) and Titan A.E. (2000).  The slow journey to 100m of Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules, and Mulan will make Atlantis a box office playoff nail-biter.  It is budgeted at $120 million and people will once again need to show up and cover for this for Disney to afford to go deeper with the animation and stray away from the remakes.  – 25m OW / 125 domestic. (beware of Tomb Raider)

 

 

 

Week 8

The Fast and the Furious – the newest soundtrack, further car chases and driving moments  outperforming Exit Wounds, a staple into California beach summer.  Gone in 60 Seconds flirted with greatness, The Fast and the Furious should slip between places not seen before.  The $38 million budget makes the action stakes feel cautiously optimistic, but Exit Wounds was $50 million and The Fast and the Furious is already promising higher action.  – 42m OW / 120 domestic

Dr. Dolittle 2 – the CGI talking animals should push new extremes as Academy Awards visual effects nominations have recently moved through Mighty Joe Young, Stuart Little and Hollow Man.    Nutty Professor 2 and Shrek blinked up to heights past 42m OW, and maybe Eddie Murphy had magic up his sleeves.  What will keep this box office consistency from failing?  If it falls, there goes Eddie Murphy’s record chart run.  I sense danger.  – 30m OW / 120 domestic

 

 

 

Week 9

A.I. Artificial Intelligence – the next E.T. becomes the next most anticipated movie in release.  Heavy makeup and deep visuals decorated the next sci-fi innovation and previewed footage seemed to hide most of the mystery of the film.  A.I. is positioned to be a mass alternative diverting from Pearl Harbor and sucking in the teddy bear audience.  50m OW / 175 domestic

 

 

 

Week 10

Fourth of July 5-day (Wed-Sun) brings Scary Movie 2, Cats and Dogs, and Kiss of the Dragon.

Scary Movie 2 – what will not continue to be fresh with this one?  Scary Movie shattered 42m OW in 2000.  This is like Doom 2.  35m OW/55m 5-day  / 135 domestic

Cats and Dogs – the animation looks to make fluff ooze out the screen with Jeff Golblum cementing one-liners into the archives.  It’s new, so please make as much as you can.  30m OW/45 5-day / 115 domestic

Kiss of the Dragon – Jet Li, Bridget Fonda, ground-based wire fu that should outduel The Matrix.  3-day opening in the 4^th of July summer against ^ these two new openers.  19m OW/ 60 domestic

 

 

 

Week 11

The skies the limit for Final Fantasy.  Scary Movie 2 should heat up society to new levels, Jeff Golblum will be riding to 100 million. 

Final Fantasy – the CGI tentacles look to wrap around Godzilla and appear through Tomb Raider’s machines.  $137 million budget suggests a sequel could come with sharing from another studio.  But Final Fantasy is just to niche compared to Tomb Raider.  Skeptics will hope it opens like Wild Wild West and lights up dark sewers in glowing sci-fi adventure.  25 OW/ 40m 5-day / 100m domestic

The Score – Robert De Niro is back again with a tasteful Edward Norton directed by Frank Oz who everyone wants.  From what we’ve seen with Ronin approaching 100m and then Analyze This and Meet the parents exceeding it, The Score is a mediocre heist thriller testing the 100m record with superstars, but it just won’t end up making that much!  These movies are suspenseful and sometimes boring.  20 OW/ 80 domestic

 

 

 

Legally Blonde – Bring it On! #’s are back at the box office and this will surely make it’s dent.  I expect everyone to enjoy every inch of it.  20m OW/ 60 domestic

 

 

 

Week 12

America’s Sweethearts – Billy Crystal breaks the current walls of movie casting by subbing in from Oscar host to America’s Sweethearts.  It is a pair up with the admission-ticket oozing Julia Roberts sleepwalking from occupying $35 million in ticket sales from 1999’s Runaway Bride.  Erin Brockovich won the Academy Award and it was a triple crown with Notting Hill hitting past 100m too.  This is assuredly stamped as a $100m film and is going to absorb a lot opening against Jurassic Park 3.

30 OW/ 105 domestic

Jurassic Park 3 – The Lost World didn’t uncover much, neither did Batman and Robin.  The Matrix, The Mummy, and The Phantom Menace brought new worlds to DVD.  X-Men was a rough cut.  Hannibal tested earlier in the year, The Mummy Returns, A.I., and Pearl Harbor settled as ordinary blockbusters.  Indiana Jones 4 will never happen.  Jurassic Park 3 is going to bring in new dinosaurs and be a different test from the two novels of the islands.   Debuting on Wednesday makes a 30m record breaking opening day seem like lost hope.  25+15 Wed and Thurs seem probably with another 60 over the 3-day.  60 Ow/100 – 250 domestic

 

 

 

Week 13

Planet of the Apes – dinosaurs invade the movies and the marching of the apes has taken over the TV as they march to movie breaking glory.  This sci-fi classic remake is packaged with an explosive $100 million price tag, front-line battle stakes, and it is hawked right in position for anyone disappointed with the dinosaurs.  60 OW/ 175 domestic

Week 14

Rush Hour 2 – this fire smacker answers the call of the binge entertainment the first one created.  Rush Hour 2 is opening itself in a privileged spot on the backend of the summer balancing the biggest franchises within the technological restraint.  45 OW/ 150 domestic.

The Princess Diaries – Disney G-rated fairy tale with Julie Andrews screams fright at the box office.  Make room as potentially 100m could be scooped away from people trying to become Planet of the Apes-literate.  20 OW/ 95 domestic.

Original Sin – special mention *Antonio Banderas returns after flopping as the action hero in The 13^th Warrior.  He is answered with Angelina Jolie from Tomb Raider.  I expect good things from this.  11 OW/ 45 domestic

 

 

 

Week 15

American Pie 2 – Summer rides out on the highest wave possible as the intolerable American Pie from the controversial 1999 Summer of IDing teenagers trying to see American Pie and South Park comes back with Scary Movie, Scary Movie 2 and American Pie 2 setting up to be an R-rated sex/nudity record breaker.  Bombs away!  50 OW/ 150 domestic

 

 

 

The Others – ghost horror movie with Nicole Kidman.  Haunted houses are in demand but are slowly served to audiences.  New haunted house supernatural horrors mean more of these movies which is always on the side of progress with waking people up.  15 OW/ 60 domestic

Osmosis Jones – animated/live-action action comedy with Bill Murray and 75 million budget?  How is this going to SUCCEEEED?????  12 OW/ 45 domestic

 

 

 

   Week 16

Captain Corelli’s Mandolin – alternative foreign-looking WW2 action instrumental with Nicolas Cage likely getting $20 million paycheck.  Budget is $57, WW2 movies slowly roll down the conveyer belt in disappointing variety.  15 OW/ 50 domestic

Rat Race – the guy jumping in the bullet train with that gag sells it.  With an older cast, I expect it to slightly do better then the Teenie-sleepers.  15 OW/ 60 domestic

American Outlaws – the shootouts with the metal soundtrack should make some scenes heavy and stand out from previous stunts, but this movie looks stupid, and is clicked in to blow.  12 OW/ 45 domestic

 

 

 

Week 17

Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back – whatever it is, it’s coming.  You don’t know why it beats South Park, Scary Movie 2, and American Pie 2.  You thought Deuce Bigalow offered enough wall breaking to be a full-length Eminem video?  Well throw in some more Star Wars.  25 OW/ 85 domestic

Summer Catch – special mention.  Freddie Prinze has been coasting.  The extra effort with the baseball team is appreciated and I’m sure enough will trek out to put the final cume shining up with 40m.  12 OW/ 40 *fingers crossed*

John Carpenter’s Ghosts of Mars – here is the dark horse.  Ice Cube punches Natasha Henstridge in the face in the trailer and says mother fucker causing reactions that this is heading towards stupid.  Again, all you can do is show up and pay.  10 OW/ 25 domestic

Week 18

Jeepers Creepers – a Labor Day box office movie made for you.  There was Spawn, Mortal Kombat, Blade, and The Crow.  Jeepers Creepers looks to be the Spawn in Mortal Kombat in the middle of nowhere eating people.  20 OW/ 60 domestic

 

 

 

Week 19

The Musketeer – wire fu better get it right this time, but this will probably be boring expensive bullshit action piece that is supposed to be blowing peoples minds but instead is a lousy fuck up of a lengthy romance darling play.  It wouldn't venture into Highlander: Endgame territory and its ranking amongst most anticipated on upcomingmovies.com nor should it rival 13th Warrior and a swashbuckling swordsman.  (or Cuthroat Island)  Still, The Musketeer looks hot off the grill and hopes to fly over The Matrix.  Hopefully Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings will summon 10x the audience of Star Wars.  20 OW/ 60 domestic

 

Top 30 Predictions

Spoiler

350 – Pearl Harbor

250 – Jurassic Park 3

225 - The Mummy Returns

175 – A.I. Artificial Intelligence

175 – Planet of the Apes

160 – Shrek

150 – Lara Croft: Tomb Raider

150 – Rush Hour 2

150 – American Pie 2

135 – Scary Movie 2

125 – Atlantis: The Lost Empire

120 – The Fast and the Furious

120 – Dr. Dolittle 2

115 – Cats and Dogs

105 – America’s Sweethearts

100 – Final Fantasy

95 – The Princess Diaries

90 - Evolution

85 – Swordfish

85 – Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back

80 – The Score

75 – A Knight’s Tale

70 – The Animal

70 – What’s the Worst That Could Happen?

60 – Kiss of the Dragon

60 – Legally Blonde

60 – The Others

60 – Rat Race

60 – Jeepers Creepers

60 – The Musketeer

 

The Results

Spoiler

268 – Shrek - 60%

226 – Rush Hour 2 - 66%

202 – The Mummy Returns - 89%

199 – Pearl Harbor - 24%

181 – Jurassic Park 3 - 62%

180 – Planet of the Apes - 97%

145 – American Pie 2 - 97%

145 – The Fast and the Furious - 83%

131 – Lara Croft: Tomb Raider - 86%

113 – Dr. Dolittle 2 - 94%

108 – The Princess Diaries - 88%

  97 – The Others  - 62%

  97 – Legally Blonde - 62%

  94 – America’s Sweethearts  - 88%

  94 – Cats & Dogs - 78%

  84 – Atlantis: The Lost Empire  - 51%

  79 – A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 0%

  71 – Scary Movie 2 - 10%

  71 – The Score - 87%

  70 – Swordfish - 79%

  58 – The Animal - 79%

  57 – Rat Race - 95%

  57 – A Knight’s Tale - 68%

  38 – Evolution - 0%

  38 – Jeepers Creepers - 42%

  37 – Kiss of the Dragon - 38%

  32 – What’s the Worst That Could Happen? - 0%

  32 – Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within - 0%

  30 – Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back - 0%

  27 – The Musketeer - 0%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 6, 2019 by Slave Animal Rights

[cookie]

3 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

 

That's... That's not something you see every day.

Now all we need is a swarm of fruit flies and it's basically every summer up here.

[MCKillswitch123]

@CJohn Prisioneira continues to be an embarassment. Joker, powered by the Ronaldugal x Switzerland game, beat it by over 1% rating and nearly 2% share. The game hit SIC hard too, but Golpe de Sorte still stayed above a million viewers (it was likely The Farmer Wants A Wife and Jornal da Noite that got trounced by GOATaldo), so there's literally no excuse for Prisioneira. NONE. This proves that Palmeirim power is a real deal.... and that Prisioneira is one of the biggest bombs of all time in our primetime history.

 

Meanwhile, the 7PM got ANOTHER shake-up, because we haven't gotten enough of those already: the O Chef é Você segment from Você na TV is now getting spun off into its own show at 7PM, hosted by Goucha and Maria. May I remind you that this segment has sunk Você na TV even harder than it already was and it was more or less around its inception that Praça da Alegria beat VnTV for the 1st time. Yay. TVI sure loves the sub-10% share at 7PM idea.

 

In actual positive news for them, though, the 7PM GAWD Fernando Mendes is showing up for the Fátima Lopes Alta Definição rip-off show this Saturday, and Kitchen Nightmares Season 3 is guaranteed for this fall to go against Married At First Sight Season 2. TVI's Sundays still manage to hit 20% with the floptastic Your Face Sounds Familiar, so I imagine they should clear 22/23 safely with King Llubo, even if SIC will be competitive. I think Llubo can definitely be the one guy that breaks the SIC dating show hegemony, but it will be a close game.

18 hours ago, Avatree said:

I don't see why if you can have pride in being minority, why can't you have pride in being majority.

Or better yet, why have pride at all over something you can't control.

 

I used to be gay , don't recall feeling proud of it, what a silly idea.

You.... used to be gay? How does one stop being gay? Is there revolutionary technology that makes conversion therapies work now?

[filmlover]

4 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

You.... used to be gay? How does one stop being gay? Is there revolutionary technology that makes conversion therapies work now?

Don't even engage.

[TMP]

9 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

You.... used to be gay? How does one stop being gay? Is there revolutionary technology that makes conversion therapies work now?

He's a troll.

[Avatree]

9 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

@CJohn Prisioneira continues to be an embarassment. Joker, powered by the Ronaldugal x Switzerland game, beat it by over 1% rating and nearly 2% share. The game hit SIC hard too, but Golpe de Sorte still stayed above a million viewers (it was likely The Farmer Wants A Wife and Jornal da Noite that got trounced by GOATaldo), so there's literally no excuse for Prisioneira. NONE. This proves that Palmeirim power is a real deal.... and that Prisioneira is one of the biggest bombs of all time in our primetime history.

 

Meanwhile, the 7PM got ANOTHER shake-up, because we haven't gotten enough of those already: the O Chef é Você segment from Você na TV is now getting spun off into its own show at 7PM, hosted by Goucha and Maria. May I remind you that this segment has sunk Você na TV even harder than it already was and it was more or less around its inception that Praça da Alegria beat VnTV for the 1st time. Yay. TVI sure loves the sub-10% share at 7PM idea.

 

In actual positive news for them, though, the 7PM GAWD Fernando Mendes is showing up for the Fátima Lopes Alta Definição rip-off show this Saturday, and Kitchen Nightmares Season 3 is guaranteed for this fall to go against Married At First Sight Season 2. TVI's Sundays still manage to hit 20% with the floptastic Your Face Sounds Familiar, so I imagine they should clear 22/23 safely with King Llubo, even if SIC will be competitive. I think Llubo can definitely be the one guy that breaks the SIC dating show hegemony, but it will be a close game.

You.... used to be gay? How does one stop being gay? Is there revolutionary technology that makes conversion therapies work now?

 

When I was 15 onwards, I was gay, full on homosexual, only had interest in males, wouldn't dream of having sex with a woman. Then about age 19 i lost interest in men and started being attracted to women.  it was like a switch being flipped. Can't imagine anything worse than having sex with a dude again now. Oh and being straight is way better than being gay.

[MCKillswitch123]

31 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Don't even engage.

27 minutes ago, TMP said:

He's a troll.

I was just curious about what he would say. I mean, to my knowledge, sexual orientation is kind of impossible to change, but whatever, I guess.

[Avatree]

2 hours ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

I was just curious about what he would say. I mean, to my knowledge, sexual orientation is kind of impossible to change, but whatever, I guess.

sexuality changes all the time IMO what you are into and who you find attractive can change over time. the people you find attractive when youre 12 is probably not the same as what you find attractive when youre 45 right. 

 

I've heard of many people who live their life as heterosexual and some point later in life they turn homosexual.

 

I decided i did not want to sleep with men any more and after a while i lost all attraction to them and turned straight. never looked back.

 

@TMP has been on this board long enough to know better than thinking i am a troll.

[Eric Duncan]

 

Paying respect for @TMP

[MCKillswitch123]

32 minutes ago, Avatree said:

sexuality changes all the time IMO what you are into and who you find attractive can change over time. the people you find attractive when youre 12 is probably not the same as what you find attractive when youre 45 right. 

 

I've heard of many people who live their life as heterosexual and some point later in life they turn homosexual.

 

I decided i did not want to sleep with men any more and after a while i lost all attraction to them and turned straight. never looked back.

 

@TMP has been on this board long enough to know better than thinking i am a troll.

 

The women I was attracted to when I was 12, I still find attractive now and always will find attractive unless they radically change in ways that make them less attractive (and for the record, I'm talking about older women; the girls of my age I also find attractive and always have, but I think about them as they are now, before anyone calls me a pedophile or anything). Sexual orientation is permanent. Some bisexual people may have identity shifts (feeling more appetite for one thing or another at given points in time), but they've known their orientation as bi from the moment they heard of the term. You don't actually go from straight to gay or gay to straight in a snap of a finger, that's just fact.

 

But whatever, mate....

 

After all, the attention you got from baiting the LGBT folks of the forum must've gotten you a good laugh. Not that it's unexpected coming from someone who unapologetically defends racism, amirite?

Edited June 6, 2019 by MCKillswitch123

[filmlover]

I'm most interested in seeing if Apple's streaming service will survive since they're bringing so much talent on board.

[grim22]

6 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

 

Paying respect for @TMP

It's apparently the victim of an extremely stupid bureaucratic error. So stupid, it beggars belief that something like this would ever happen in any government

 

Thread:

 

 

 

 

[MCKillswitch123]

2 minutes ago, filmlover said:

I'm most interested in seeing if Apple's streaming service will survive since they're bringing so much talent on board.

It'll pull through, for sure. If people buy super expensive and super shitty iPhones for the sake of having an iPhone (Android is better in every way, except Siri >>>> Google), then they will subscribe to Apple's streaming service. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure that the only thing that Apple has ever made that didn't survive was the Pippin.

 

If you don't know what the Pippin is, trust me: neither does Apple anymore.

[TMP]

Disney is gonna be the only provider of entertainment for both streaming and movies 5 years from now. How exciting!

[filmlover]

Announcing that the show got cancelled when only one episode out of ten has landed so far does feel like a bit of a dick move towards the people on the show though. Why watch the rest now when you know it's not returning (even if they reshot the ending to make it more of a series finale)? Reason why it's hard to get invested in shows these days.

[TMP]

5 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure that the only thing that Apple has ever made that didn't survive was the Pippin.

You mean the Newton right? Also, the Macintosh was a huge disappointment at first. 35k units sold when 1 million were expected.

[MCKillswitch123]

11 hours ago, cannastop said:

I'm concerned for American cinema's viability starting in the 20s.

 

Can they continue plumbing the depths of Marvel and Star Wars? DC?

Pretty sure that's been said a lot of times in the past, and the answer has always been "they'll be fine".

 

If anything, the worst that can happen for American cinema is to be overtaken as the most successful cinema in the world by Chinese cinema.

[cannastop]

6 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

Pretty sure that's been said a lot of times in the past, and the answer has always been "they'll be fine".

 

If anything, the worst that can happen for American cinema is to be overtaken as the most successful cinema in the world by Chinese cinema.

I'm concerned for the physical locations too. Will some of them close?

[MCKillswitch123]

25 minutes ago, TMP said:

You mean the Newton right? Also, the Macintosh was a huge disappointment at first. 35k units sold when 1 million were expected.

The Newton was a flop in its day, but nowadays, the few models that may exist on eBay and the likes probably cost a fortune. It was insanely ahead of its time. It was basically the original tablet and one of the standard bearers for smartphones, and it set the stage for the iPhone and the iPad. I would say that even though it didn't survive financially, it could be argued that it still survives as a forward movement for technological innovation. And the Macintosh was a disappointment at 1st, but Macs have become such a big deal that they more than made up for their original low numbers. Aka, the brand survived. Hell, early 2000's Macs used elements of the Newton OS. Both brands survived (at least to an extent, in the Newton's case).

 

The Pippin still to this day has no redeeming values about it.... it was just a totally shit attempt at entering a new market for Apple. That simply did not survive in any way, shape or form. It haunts them so much to this day that they haven't tried to compete even despite Microsoft proving to be hugely successful in said market.

17 minutes ago, cannastop said:

I'm concerned for the physical locations too. Will some of them close?

If some close, most will stay open. This isn't like Blockbuster Video or anything like that. The cinematic experience, expensive as it may be nowadays, is still one of a kind that streaming simply cannot make justice to. That's why the existance of services like AMC A-List (or Moviepass, at its peak) is fundamental for helping the smaller movies that can't compete with the big tentpoles and thus creating a healthy market where everything flows nicely and there's no reason to preoccupy with the idea that cinemas will ever die.

Edited June 6, 2019 by MCKillswitch123