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2 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

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Aren't you always bragging about how much Avatar made.

 

Take the box office records away from Avatar and you have nothing.

 

The Avatar FRANCHISE wouldn't be worth talking about at all.

 

Also, money is how you get sequels.

 

In fact..(you might want to sit down for this)

 

It's why Hollywood makes blockbusters.

 

Mindblowing, right?

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12 minutes ago, commendable said:

This film is hitting 700m domestic Mark my words friends. Avatar and Titanic are going DOWN!!

I would have liked a Tuesday of at least 25m to be confident in 700. If it follows Deadpool's holds through Sunday, that will get it a 104m weekend and around a 396m total. That would only be 23m ahead of The Avengers through the same point with a nearly identical second weekend gross. So I'm not sure 700 would be possible in that case. It's going to have to post significantly better holds for the Wed-Sun stretch  than Deadpool. At the moment I think 640-650 seems the most likely range. 

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3 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

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From 2008 to 2019 Marvel will have made around 19-20b

 

From 2008 to 2019 Cameron films will have made 2.7b

 

Looks like business plan filmmaking pays more than Cameron!

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5 hours ago, The Mad Panda said:

From 2008 to 2019 Marvel will have made around 19-20b

 

From 2008 to 2019 Cameron films will have made 2.7b

 

Looks like business plan filmmaking pays more than Cameron!

Marvel's combo of consistency, frequency and absolute global numbers puts it handily ahead of long successful streaks of Pixar, Potter, Bond, SW and anything else (if had to pick a 2nd would say Pixar).

 

edit: Illumination is on a purple patch too with 3 DMs, Minions, SLOP and Sing. Not gonna end with Grinch which I think will be big.

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1 hour ago, a2knet said:

Marvel's combo of consistency, frequency and absolute global numbers puts it handily ahead of long successful streaks of Pixar, Potter, Bond, SW and anything else (if had to pick a 2nd would say Pixar).

Potter & middle earth are the more consistent (and very similar), but lack the 2 output a year factor obviously (warning very rough did not adjust by re-release correctly if some movie had them in their total).

 

Middle earth

The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies *1003.80
The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug 1015.90
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey 1102.79
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King *1510.79
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers 1274.15
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring 1217.02
Average 1187.41
Deviation 191.45

 

 

Potter

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 *1475.65
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 1094.74
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince 1083.90
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix 1127.88
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire 1139.06
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban *1043.67
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets 1213.02
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone 1364.72
Average 1192.83
Deviation 151.55

 

Both were always 250m under or over the 1.25b in 2018 dollars line, that is quite ridiculous and they never had an entry that made below a 2018 billion dollar, that is a very high worst case for a franchise. Potter is specially weird by how giant fan base drived it was, giving it the smallest variance of them all.

 

 

Star wars

Star Wars: The Last Jedi 1342.29
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story 1087.78
Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2171.61
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith 1077.97
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones *884.44
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace 1465.56
Return of the Jedi 1041.81
The Empire Strikes Back 1376.47
Star Wars *2542.75
Average 1443.41
Deviation 557.64

 

 

Wars as a ridiculous nearly 1.5b box office average by entry but a much bigger variation because of the 4 and 7 episode that went just crazy, Episode 2 is a low the other 2 franchise never had, reception and box office wise.

 

 

MCU

Spider-Man: Homecoming 889.0
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 872.4
Thor: Ragnarok 862.0
Captain America: Civil War 1187.9
Doctor Strange 698.0
Avengers: Age of Ultron 1475.7
Ant-Man 545.3
Guardians of the Galaxy 812.0
Captain America: The Winter Soldier 750.0
Iron Man 3 1287.7
Thor: The Dark World 683.3
Marvel's The Avengers *1640.3
Thor 494.2
Captain America: The First Avenger 407.7
Iron Man 2 711.2
Iron Man 673.0
The Incredible Hulk *302.9
Average 840.7
Deviation 366.6

 

 

MCU is more all over the place a bit with the pre avenger post avenger were it change gear if we remove the pre-avengers it goes closer to the Potter/Middle earth consistency with a (and many of the last entry very similar 700-900m range), black panther could raise it above 1b !

Average    975.3

Deviation  342.6

 

Totals (without BlackPanthers)

MCU 14292.6
Star Wars 12990.7
Potter 9542.7
Middle Earth 7124.5

 

 

Star wars has the highest average but also highest variance, MCU has the highest total and in a small 10 year's windows, it is a good candidate here yes.

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2 hours ago, Barnack said:

 

  1139.06
   
  812.0
  750.0
  1287.7
  683.3
  *1640.3
  494.2
  407.7
  711.2
  673.0
  *302.9
  840.7
   
  14292.6
  12990.7
  9542.7
   

Star wars has the highest average but also highest variance, MCU has the highest total and in a small 10 year's windows, it is a good candidate here yes.

 

As much as I love the 3 franchises apart from the MCU, even they would have struggled to maintain their high averages if the franchise was pumping out 2-3 movies every year. For example we are already seeing diminishing returns for Star Wars with its yearly releases

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