Ocho Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 52 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: This is why we need the disgust emoticon. Justice for Goldblum! When did earning money and employing thousands of people become a bad thing. I hope they make 15 billion. It's not like they'll sit on the money......they will start new projects and employee even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, pepsa said: Well the growth in India and China doesn't go to Hollywood, China growth goes quite toward them (same for Malaysia, Brazil, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc...), would be good to track those if possible: https://greenash.net.au/thoughts/2011/07/world-domination-by-box-office-cinema-admissions/ Ideally we would talk in MPAA studio world market or US production if we would have those numbers. Just for the MPAA studio There share of the global box office trend, if we compare them in the world domestic vs intl market size trend it could give an idea. IF was 50/50 in 2003 and the world box office was of 20.3b with 9.24b domestic, so 45.5/54.5% split in world box office, 50/50 for the MPAA studios. By gross assumption the MPAA is making almost 100% of the domestic, they would have had a 91% world market share. In 2016 was around 38.6b global with a 11.38 domestic, a 30/70 for the split in world box office vs 36/64 for the MPAA studios box office. Using the same gross assumptions, 82% of the world market share. Their world share slipped a little bit with the big China local industry, would have too think to make a better ratio, but we could say they only have around 90% of the world market share they had in 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinRed Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Disney rolls over 2B DOM today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Ocho said: When did earning money and employing thousands of people become a bad thing. I hope they make 15 billion. It's not like they'll sit on the money......they will start new projects and employee even more. this is the Murdochs we're talking about dude... despicable people. Many people at least here in the UK boycott Murdoch so refuse to buy their newspapers or TV. They are hated. Rupert Murdoch is one of the most disliked people in this country. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Avatree said: Disney, fox, comcast, whoever, why would they want to put it on VOD in the first place? it's the new X-Men movie... yes the last one dropped a lot but it still made 500M worldwide why on earth would they pull it from cinemas? Exactly this. The Franchise is on a downward trend (and let’s face it, it’s over and finished), but it’s still a big franchise with two big brand names and logos attached to it title. Launching a new service with the film on it would be gigantic (bigger than anything Netflix and Amazon have ever done). It would solidify Disney as a major competitor to Netflix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oMeriMombatti Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, RamblinRed said: Disney rolls over 2B DOM today. Lol, talk about running a marathon at a speed which you see in 100M race . They have annihilated competiton here. The 2nd best is Fox with 820M which is only 42% of Disney's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AJG Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Avatree said: this is the Murdochs we're talking about dude... despicable people. Many people at least here in the UK boycott Murdoch so refuse to buy their newspapers or TV. They are hated. Rupert Murdoch is one of the most disliked people in this country. Just to add to this: its not a small boycott either, people in Liverpool refuse to buy Murdoch papers. An Arsenal fan YouTube channel had a sponsorship with The Sun newspaper and people were so outraged they had to apologise. That family is hated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, AJG said: Exactly this. The Franchise is on a downward trend (and let’s face it, it’s over and finished), but it’s still a big franchise with two big brand names and logos attached to it title. Launching a new service with the film on it would be gigantic (bigger than anything Netflix and Amazon have ever done). It would solidify Disney as a major competitor to Netflix. hm, that's true. They do need to kick off their new streaming service with a bang. Of all the big franchises they have, its probably the best one to go I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, AJG said: Exactly this. The Franchise is on a downward trend (and let’s face it, it’s over and finished), but it’s still a big franchise with two big brand names and logos attached to it title. Launching a new service with the film on it would be gigantic (bigger than anything Netflix and Amazon have ever done). It would solidify Disney as a major competitor to Netflix. Disney don't give two tosses about Xmen, this deal is about getting hold of SKY TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfran43 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 DP2 finally over Solo... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, AndyK said: Disney don't give two tosses about Xmen, this deal is about getting hold of SKY TV. It is but it’s still a deal for content for this move into streaming. The Sky deal factors into those streaming ambitions too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raulbalarezo Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, sfran43 said: DP2 finally over Solo... It was over solo yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, sfran43 said: DP2 finally over Solo... Sure, but It's PTA is lower by $2! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belle Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, poweranimals said: These big blockbusters have a lot more competition now as well which makes it more impressive when it makes so much money. Tickets these days cost so much more these days, iirc they said last year ticket sales were down but in terms of money it was as much or bigger iirc, You have 3D, imax, Imax 3D, special seats, whatever other gimmick there is. And the overseas markets have grown so much in recent years. 2 hours ago, Jessie said: Yes it did. Rogue one made 500m and dory wasn't far off. You just proved my point The numbers will always get bigger and these box office records have as much weight as any other record. 2B also isn't the new billion yet because unless you're Avatar you still need a big performance both domestically and overseas. That said, as already mentioned in an age of internet, expensive tickets and franchises, this trend of big numbers makes sense as large groups of people are probably only gonna go see one or two big movies per year and then pirate or not give two craps about everything else. Nostalgia helps too. Many movie that have made near or past 500M domestic since 2015 have been based on IPs that many people want to see due to nostalgia and cross-generational appeal (Jurassic World, Finding Dory, Rogue One, Beauty and the Beast, Force Awakens, and Incredibles 2 once it gets past that mark). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekanos Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 51 minutes ago, Avatree said: I will bet anything that you're wrong. Make a bet? Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 56 minutes ago, Barnack said: 2003 world box office was 20.3b, 2004 world box office was 25.8b we are now around 40b, not quite doubled ROTK market size (ROTK being release almost in 2004). The increase in market size around the world though is also attributable to local content rapidly becoming bigger in countries like China, South Korea, India or even Japan where the local market is still strong but imports far less so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 magnificent 34% jump for Infinity War. hope it only drops 15% today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, AndyK said: Disney don't give two tosses about Xmen, this deal is about getting hold of SKY TV. Sky TV is Comcast's prime motivator. Disney wants that but there are tons of other Fox stations it wants in the US as well as content from Fox TV and film and their third of Hulu. X-Men is part of that but it's negligible like F4 or even Doom. It's not as if Marvel hasn't done OK without them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: The increase in market size around the world though is also attributable to local content rapidly becoming bigger in countries like China, South Korea, India or even Japan where the local market is still strong but imports far less so. See: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
