Weekend Thread | Hotel 3 $44.1 Skyscraper 25.4, Ant Man’s size does matter with $28.8M

[grey ghost]

2 minutes ago, The Futurist said:

3 Dwayne movies in 7 months.

Hmm 3 MCU films in 7 months explains why Ant-man flopped. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[aabattery]

7 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

Safe House was near Denzel's prime. When he was benefitting from Training Day's after glow.

 

Safe House was eleven years after Training Day. I very much doubt the after glow of that was what drove that OW. He had plenty of hits in that period, several of which were a fair amount bigger than Training Day.

[The Futurist]

19 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

Hmm 3 MCU films in 7 months explains why Ant-man flopped. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure why Ant Man is doing so poorly (everybody will have its own theory) but 3 movies per year always seemed a bit overkill to me, especially when other studios with superhero IPs want to do the same.

[dxmatrixdt]

Skyscraper might be like taking John Wick and stuffing it with non-action scenarios.  If Skyscraper played like Die Hard, it would be more like John Wick.  Instead, maybe the scenarios are spread out more like Stealth and Air Force One.

[dxmatrixdt]

1 minute ago, The Futurist said:

Not sure why Ant Man is doing so poorly (everybody will have its own theory) but 3 movies per year always seemed a bit overkill to me, especially when other studios with superhero IPs want to do the same.

Big investment though on each film.  Other films should start adding next to them on the schedule.

[The Futurist]

17 minutes ago, aabattery said:

 

Safe House was eleven years after Training Day. I very much doubt the after glow of that was what drove that OW. He had plenty of hits in that period, several of which were a fair amount bigger than Training Day.

Safe House had the Green Lantern afterglow in the sense that after Green Lantern , the only way remaining is up.

[dxmatrixdt]

but in the sequel, they might show...

[Jonwo]

We had three MCU films last year which were all hits so clearly audiences want them, I think Ant-Man though a palate cleanser after the juggernauts that were BP and AIW was more of an afterthought in the eyes of audiences 

[filmscholar]

It's pretty ironic to me that "Skyscraper" under-performance is on the same weekend as the 30th Anniversary of "Die Hard".   "Die Hard" made 83 Domestic in 1988 and adjust to 185.   Today is the Anniversary  7/15/88-7/15/18. 

 

 

[grey ghost]

2 hours ago, The Futurist said:

Not sure why Ant Man is doing so poorly (everybody will have its own theory) but 3 movies per year always seemed a bit overkill to me, especially when other studios with superhero IPs want to do the same.

 

 

Marvel Studios will make 3.9 billion instead of 4 billion this year.

 

"Oh no. What a disaster. Change course!"

Edited July 15, 2018 by grey ghost

[dxmatrixdt]

surprised no numbers were reported last night since Saturday grossed 60-70 million.  

same weekend day and date 2007 & 2012

 

2007

1 HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX Warner Bros. 4,285 $25,841,985 +40.6% / $6,031 $88,448,728 / 3 $28,310,875 +9.6% / $6,607 $116,759,603 / 4 $22,955,554 -18.9% / $5,357 $139,715,157 / 5 2 TRANSFORMERS Paramount (DreamWorks) 4,050 $10,831,926 +69.5% / $2,675 $197,813,608 / 11 $14,495,075 +33.8% / $3,579 $212,308,683 / 12 $11,700,900 -19.3% / $2,889 $224,009,583 / 13 3 RATATOUILLE Buena Vista 3,625 $5,368,711 +62.2% / $1,481 $130,353,597 / 15 $7,153,967 +33.3% / $1,974 $137,507,564 / 16 $5,489,518 -23.3% / $1,514 $142,997,082 / 17 4 LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD Fox 3,201 $3,243,006 +99.9% / $1,013 $95,286,451 / 17 $4,646,044 +43.3% / $1,451 $99,932,495 / 18 $3,390,085 -27% / $1,059 $103,322,580 / 19 5 LICENSE TO WED Warner Bros. 2,715 $2,368,601 +99.8% / $872 $25,437,053 / 11 $2,884,450 +21.8% / $1,062 $28,321,503 / 12 $2,058,246 -28.6% / $758 $30,379,749 / 13 6 1408 MGM (Weinstein) 2,206 $1,624,217 +123.5% / $736 $58,816,923 / 22 $1,923,302 +18.4% / $872 $60,740,225 / 23 $1,386,997 -27.9% / $629 $62,127,222 / 24 7 EVAN ALMIGHTY Universal 2,697 $1,510,320 +86.3% / $560 $84,405,770 / 22 $1,968,810 +30.4% / $730 $86,374,580 / 23 $1,415,925 -28.1% / $525 $87,790,505 / 24 8 KNOCKED UP Universal 1,710 $1,077,300 +109.6% / $630 $135,618,070 / 43 $1,513,350 +40.5% / $885 $137,131,420 / 44 $1,085,850 -28.2% / $635 $138,217,270 / 45 9 SICKO Lionsgate 756 $708,491 +76% / $937 $13,934,398 / 22 $1,080,666 +52.5% / $1,429 $15,015,064 / 23 $814,982 -24.6% / $1,078 $15,830,046 / 24 10 OCEAN'S THIRTEEN Warner Bros. 1,244 $591,327 +120.6% / $475 $111,113,706 / 36 $836,441 +41.5% / $672 $111,950,147 / 37 $556,555 -33.5% / $447 $112,506,702 / 38 11 CAPTIVITY After Dark Films 1,061 $524,000 (estimate) -- / $494 $524,000 / 1 $504,000 (estimate) -3.8% / $475 $1,028,000 / 2 $401,000 (estimate) -20.4% / $378 $1,429,100 / 3 12 FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER Fox 1,312 $461,984 +60.8% / $352 $126,021,102 / 29 $681,834 +47.6% / $520 $126,702,936 / 30 $489,794 -28.2% / $373 $127,192,730 / 31 13 PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN: AT WORLD'S END Buena Vista 928 $402,080 +71.2% / $433 $303,459,754 / 50 $595,233 +48% / $641 $304,054,987 / 51 $399,436 -32.9% / $430 $304,454,423 / 52 14 EVENING Focus Features 760 $339,000 (estimate) +10.4% / $446 $10,025,000 / 15 $470,000 (estimate) +38.6% / $618 $10,495,000 / 16 $346,000 (estimate) -26.4% / $455 $10,842,501 / 17 15 SHREK THE THIRD Paramount (DreamWorks) 644 $198,070 +68.5% / $308 $317,615,864 / 57 $267,543 +35.1% / $415 $317,883,407 / 58 $196,428 -26.6% / $305 $318,079,835 / 59 16 YOU KILL ME IFC 247 $170,000 (estimate) +750% / $688 $1,095,000 / 22 $249,000 (estimate) +46.5% / $1,008 $1,344,000 / 23 $170,000 (estimate) -31.7% / $688 $1,514,156 / 24 17 SPIDER-MAN 3 Sony / Columbia 447 $149,607 +550.3% / $335 $334,639,575 / 71 $206,885 +38.3% / $463 $334,846,460 / 72 $155,901 -24.6% / $349 $335,002,361 / 73

Spoiler

1 ICE AGE: CONTINENTAL DRIFT Fox 3,881 $16,728,341 -- / $4,310 $16,728,341 / 1 $16,965,452 +1.4% / $4,371 $33,693,793 / 2 $12,935,466 -23.8% / $3,333 $46,629,259 / 3 2 THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN Sony / Columbia 4,318 $10,198,412 +65.6% / $2,362 $176,070,659 / 11 $13,882,924 +36.1% / $3,215 $189,953,583 / 12 $10,546,768 -24% / $2,443 $200,500,351 / 13 3 TED Universal 3,303 $6,903,270 +83.6% / $2,090 $143,749,665 / 15 $8,703,405 +26.1% / $2,635 $152,453,070 / 16 $6,804,180 -21.8% / $2,060 $159,257,250 / 17 4 MAGIC MIKE Warner Bros. 3,090 $3,407,137 +38.9% / $1,103 $86,227,212 / 15 $3,291,467 -3.4% / $1,065 $89,518,679 / 16 $2,322,519 -29.4% / $752 $91,841,198 / 17 5 BRAVE Buena Vista 3,392 $3,289,275 +27.1% / $970 $188,190,072 / 22 $4,404,700 +33.9% / $1,299 $192,594,772 / 23 $3,466,547 -21.3% / $1,022 $196,061,319 / 24 6 SAVAGES (2012) Universal 2,635 $2,740,400 +93.1% / $1,040 $25,471,850 / 8 $3,583,665 +30.8% / $1,360 $29,055,515 / 9 $3,069,775 -14.3% / $1,165 $32,125,290 / 10 7 TYLER PERRY'S MADEA'S WITNESS PROTECTION Lionsgate 2,004 $1,794,279 +81.1% / $895 $51,821,973 / 15 $2,346,322 +30.8% / $1,171 $54,168,295 / 16 $1,443,426 -38.5% / $720 $55,611,721 / 17 8 KATY PERRY: PART OF ME Paramount 2,732 $1,313,660 +31% / $481 $16,166,597 / 9 $1,349,225 +2.7% / $494 $17,515,822 / 10 $1,137,722 -15.7% / $416 $18,653,544 / 11 9 MADAGASCAR 3: EUROPE'S MOST WANTED Paramount (DreamWorks) 2,285 $1,067,562 +3.2% / $467 $201,299,284 / 36 $1,458,003 +36.6% / $638 $202,757,287 / 37 $1,144,110 -21.5% / $501 $203,901,397 / 38 10 MOONRISE KINGDOM Focus Features 924 $1,044,576 +109.7% / $1,130 $29,823,071 / 50 $1,537,841 +47.2% / $1,664 $31,360,912 / 51 $1,122,090 -27% / $1,214 $32,483,002 / 52 - MARVEL'S THE AVENGERS Buena Vista 747 $395,434 +37.2% / $529 $612,657,166 / 71 $587,183 +48.5% / $786 $613,244,349 / 72 $416,137 -29.1% / $557 $613,660,486 / 73 - SNOW WHITE AND THE HUNTSMAN Universal 677 $311,420 +54.5% / $460 $150,919,950 / 43 $436,665 +40.2% / $645 $151,356,615 / 44 $274,185 -37.2% / $405 $151,630,800 / 45 - PROMETHEUS Fox 559 $278,619 +19.1% / $498 $123,607,380 / 36 $402,907 +44.6% / $721 $124,010,287 / 37 $297,129 -26.3% / $532 $124,307,416 / 38 - MIB 3 Sony / Columbia 497 $269,987 +33.7% / $543 $174,182,050 / 50 $398,954 +47.8% / $803 $174,581,004 / 51 $206,894 -48.1% / $416 $174,787,898 / 52 - PEOPLE LIKE US Buena Vista 961 $239,080 -19.8% / $249 $10,640,303 / 15 $331,014 +38.5% / $344 $10,971,317 / 16 $223,219 -32.6% / $232 $11,194,536 / 17 - ABRAHAM LINCOLN: VAMPIRE HUNTER Fox 655 $228,359 -14.8% / $349 $35,376,448 / 22 $313,867 +37.4% / $479 $35,690,315 / 23 $225,527 -28.1% / $344 $35,915,842 / 24

 

 

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[dxmatrixdt]

3 hours ago, 5xmatrixdu said:

Jumanji and Rampage were pretty backloaded with the uneven Thursday to Friday jumps for big event action pics.  I think the mediocre numbers are from the movie itself when comparing with the openings of Tomb Raider, Maze Runner and Pacific Rim 2.  Having Dwayne Johnson in the film I think is just made the movie what it is.  The concept/vision is what sells these action movies and the Rampage concept vs Skyscraper concept vs Mission Impossible concept did not seem to favor Skyscraper this time around.  If it was made 5 years from now, or 25 years ago, maybe it would be written differently.  One word action titles have always had their own world and the large budget in Skyscraper shows the confidence they have in these pictures despite so many flops. 

 

2 hours ago, 5xmatrixdu said:

Skyscraper might be like taking John Wick and stuffing it with non-action scenarios.  If Skyscraper played like Die Hard, it would be more like John Wick.  Instead, maybe the scenarios are spread out more like Stealth and Air Force One.

- Twists and turns

 

 

 

 

Independent filmmaking?

Spoiler

 

[Bishop54]

10 minutes ago, sfran43 said:

 

Nice!!!!

[Scubasteve716]

The Rock just needs to start working with better directors imo. Jungle Cruise and Hobbs & Shaw are steps in the right direction.  

[sfran43]

 

[Valonqar]

There are dumb movies worth seeing and dumb movies that are not. Skyscraper is in the latter category. That's all that is.