US Spoiler Thread (SPOILERS ARE ALLOWED)

[Morieris]

35 minutes ago, Biggestgeekever said:

I had a hard time keeping a straight face during the scene of the Tethered impersonating the theme park guests. So we're really supposed to believe, at any given moment, there's countless of them underground crudely miming sunbathing, riding horses, taking a shit, watching porn? Hilarious.

 

 

Same lol but then I Think about how if your real version is dying above, you're dying below and that must be pretty scary.

 

Do they have a criminal justice system down there? Is this only in America? 

[TigerPaw]

4 hours ago, Julian1410 said:

So i understand that the scissors were there because of the ‘rock,papier,scissors’ game that duo played on the fair before young adelaide was switchen , but How did the tethered Get all those scissors and suits?

 

btw i expect So Many people wearing this costume for Halloween

You say a ‘pair’ of scissors. Plus scissors are symmetrical.

[TigerPaw]

What I don’t get is...

 

before the twist... when adult red was in the classroom, she was using the chalkboard and explaining the puppets/deserts and everything, and also stated that she couldn’t forget her other self after bumping into her when she was young (asking why she didn’t bring her along). 

 

my issue is that if they were switched when young, the explanation and the time spent on the chalkboard doesn’t make sense.

[HenryK81]

I am pretty darn sure that NBC Universal doesn't own the rights to the Morlocks, from X-Men.

[ban1o]

the twist was a bit predictable. I was thinking that all through out the movie . Fun movie though 

[Deep Wang]

21 minutes ago, HenryK81 said:

I am pretty darn sure that NBC Universal doesn't own the rights to the Morlocks, from X-Men.

 

I am pretty darn sure that The Time Machine predates the X-Men by like...a lot. 

[Curtis1986]

This video explains a lot

 

 

[NCsoft]

2 hours ago, TigerPaw said:

What I don’t get is...

 

before the twist... when adult red was in the classroom, she was using the chalkboard and explaining the puppets/deserts and everything, and also stated that she couldn’t forget her other self after bumping into her when she was young (asking why she didn’t bring her along). 

  

my issue is that if they were switched when young, the explanation and the time spent on the chalkboard doesn’t make sense.

There are so many logical inconsistencies with that premise, that it basically can't stand up to any level of scrutiny. Which is why it's probably best just to leave it. I don't think either speech made much sense in the context (the chalkboard one or the one in front of the fireplace).  

Edited March 23, 2019 by NCsoft

[Krissykins]

8 hours ago, Valonqar said:

hereditary did 80M WW which is Us's opening weekend or close. Not exactly a big hit. Also, comparing Close's movie to horror. you know that horror and genre in general has tougher time and needs to hit critics + boxoffice in bigger way than usual Oscar suspects. 

 

Moreover, Colette's role was so unlikable. Lupita is playing a dual role, a Ripley type and a villain. In a huge ass hit with stellar reviews. She's happening. 

Hereditary was a big hit for the genre. Us shouldn’t be compared to the usual genre films, we know it’s one of the biggest ever already. 

 

The role doesn’t have to be likeable. 

[Krissykins]

Did anyone else start to suspect Lupita’s chsracter when she said on the beach that she’s “not good at talking”? 

 

Woke up thinking about this film. It’s a really good one. 

[TigerPaw]

1 minute ago, Krissykins said:

Did anyone else start to suspect Lupita’s chsracter when she said on the beach that she’s “not good at talking”? 

 

Woke up thinking about this film. It’s a really good one. 

Actually no - because apparently she was frightened by her doppelgänger when she was younger, and couldn’t speak and her parents had to go to the Psychologists to get her speaking again right? So it is okay for her to say that she’s not good at talking when she grew up.

 

 

for me... I was Pretty sure I have seen one little girl choke her doppelgänger in the trailers - which i recognize is Lupita’s younger self as soon as the movie starts. So it wasn’t a surprise for me.

[Krissykins]

2 minutes ago, TigerPaw said:

Actually no - because apparently she was frightened by her doppelgänger when she was younger, and couldn’t speak and her parents had to go to the Psychologists to get her speaking again right? So it is okay for her to say that she’s not good at talking when she grew up.

That’s when I clicked on anyway. 

 

Also makes sense now that she was upset when her doppelgänger children died. 

 

Can’t wait to watch it again to watch her character’s reactions closely.

 

Having the rest of the family act more scared when the doppelgängers first showed up in the house would’ve been helpful. 

[Valonqar]

Doppleganger fright never made sense which is a clear sign that she never forgot where she came from. she just omitted the part of the story where she swapped places with the real girl. Like, why would she think that her double wants to kill her after all these years? just because they look identical? the story never made sense so you just knew there was more than she told. 

 

also, if anyone had any doubts they should have been dispelled when she found the way to the underground without any problem, since she knew the way out. again, another strike against the theory that she repressed her memories. she knew all the time. the flashback at the end that revealed what really happened was for the audience in case they didn't figure it out from Addy's monologue. It also shows that Red felt guilty all that time but in the end accepted that it was worth it cause her son was free. and he obviously figured out that mom was a Tethered once (which makes him a half tethered) and accepted it. so it's their little secret. 

 

IMO, if you want an allegory, it's really Wife Swap kind of thing. Rich wife is placed with poor family, poor wife is placed with rich family and then you watch how environment influences the swapped and how the swapped influence the environment. In this case, the family's love and care for Red resulted in her un-tethering and becoming a normally functioning human. that she isn't good at talking is an expected reside from her early upbringing/life/possible genetic difference but she overcame it. OTOH, Addy was with neglected and neglectful people so she got emotionally stunned and could only offer them physical freedom but not the nurturing that un-tethered Red. 

 

Editing during Got 5 on It ballet/fight was amazeballs.

 

also, notice that the movie didn't rely on someone does something stupid to move the plot forward but the family acted smart and used their natural skills to save themselves (boat, running, tricks, ballet). 

[JohnnyGossamer]

More impressed by the symmetry and/or shadows/doppels of objects in each and every frame than the really on the nose 11 recurring. What Get Out was in narrative precision, Us is in visual storytelling. Peele grew with this one. He has better to come when he marries the near perfect literal storytelling of Get Out to the near perfect visual storytelling of Us.

[AN9815]

Watched this yesterday and really liked it. I love these movies that have you thinking about the ending and don't explain everything. I saw the twist coming right at the beginning when they did not show Lupita's character returning to her parents but I did not expect everyone to have a tethered and their plan either. I appreciated in that aspect that they did not reveal it on the trailers (or at least the ones I saw) because I watched Get Out's trailer recently and was surprised at how much they reveal, basically the whole movie. Now I have a few questions that I know most of them don't have an answer (or maybe I missed it), maybe I'm overthinking this but after all this is what these movies are made for, to discuss the blank spaces that weren't clear. 

 

1. The clones (or however you wanna call them) ate the rabbits to survive but wtf did the rabbits eat? They must have had some water and food for them too.  

2. Where did they get all the red jumpsuits and scissors from?

3. I know the movie was only focussed on one family and their experience but you are telling me that no one we saw outside of the main family survived? I mean I can understand normal families dying but what about police officers or just simply people who have access to a gun (which in the US there are a lot, unfortunately), they had guns and the others had scissors 

[Valonqar]

1 hour ago, AN9815 said:

Watched this yesterday and really liked it. I love these movies that have you thinking about the ending and don't explain everything. I saw the twist coming right at the beginning when they did not show Lupita's character returning to her parents but I did not expect everyone to have a tethered and their plan either. I appreciated in that aspect that they did not reveal it on the trailers (or at least the ones I saw) because I watched Get Out's trailer recently and was surprised at how much they reveal, basically the whole movie. Now I have a few questions that I know most of them don't have an answer (or maybe I missed it), maybe I'm overthinking this but after all this is what these movies are made for, to discuss the blank spaces that weren't clear. 

 

1. The clones (or however you wanna call them) ate the rabbits to survive but wtf did the rabbits eat? They must have had some water and food for them too.  

2. Where did they get all the red jumpsuits and scissors from?

3. I know the movie was only focussed on one family and their experience but you are telling me that no one we saw outside of the main family survived? I mean I can understand normal families dying but what about police officers or just simply people who have access to a gun (which in the US there are a lot, unfortunately), they had guns and the others had scissors 

that's the thing. if you start asking too many questions, the movie starts to fall apart. so you either roll with it or you don't. Not saying that your questions aren't valid but that's the problem that movie created when it tried to scientifically explain the origin of the Tethered. if they were just a mystery than who cares how they made clothes and fed the rabbits, etc. but since we got some exposition about abandoned experiment that makes you go "wait a minute!". 

 

basically, we'll never know and the movie doesn't care to explain. it's just the way it is. rabbits multiply and are well fed somehow. the Tethered have modern clothes and can make red uniforms, etc somehow. 

 

there are survivors. remember 3 helicopters encircling the Tethered who were holding hands across the mountains? so obviously military was still up and running. but the point of the movie isn't to explain how the problem was solved. just that the world now knows they exist and can't send them back underground. 

 

as for the trailer, it revealed the switch moment but when you don't know the context it isn't a spoiler. 

[JohnnyGossamer]

The reveal in the tunnels would've been preferable for me if she said even less. As in didn't mention the government, an experiment or anything. Just their existence. Otherwise, that leaves the most egregious questions that honestly didn't even need to there. All we know to know is that just about everyone has a double. A double that can't control the other tests above ground. 

 

Government would've exterminated the tethered rather quickly and easily if and when necessary. I'd had left that government out experiment mumbo jumbo out and leaned even more heavily on biblical "God brought us together" stuff. As in, I'd gave kept it more in line with the Twilight Zone he aped the concept from. More mystery, supernatural.

[JohnnyGossamer]

46 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

there are survivors. remember 3 helicopters encircling the Tethered who were holding hands across the mountains? so obviously military was still up and running. but the point of the movie isn't to explain how the problem was solved. just that the world now knows they exist and can't send them back underground. 

I prefer to assume those are news helicopters. But, guess they're probably military. News is more biting of s comment though. Broadcasting Red's giant performance piece. Shows both versions of her won... Maybe the below ground won much more even.

 

Lack of gun toting and anti-gun humor definitely was certainly missed opportunity. Could've had a lot of fun with it. Maybe it was just too much abd he didn't want the addressed political edge. Especially in the most gun crazy nation in the world.

Edited March 23, 2019 by JohnnyGossamer

[filmscholar]

Jordan got really M. Night-ish with that crazy twist.  Wow.  

[Valonqar]

1 hour ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

I prefer to assume those are news helicopters. But, guess they're probably military. News is more biting of s comment though. Broadcasting Red's giant performance piece. Shows both versions of her won... Maybe the below ground won much more even.

 

Lack of gun toting and anti-gun humor definitely was certainly missed opportunity. Could've had a lot of fun with it. Maybe it was just too much abd he didn't want the addressed political edge. Especially in the most gun crazy nation in the world.

I think that reasons are very practical. Guns = loud. if the family used them, he would have to write in people coming to check what was going on. if the family heard guns, they would know that something bad was happening. so it had to be no guns, at least not in the hearing range of the family and their neighbors (excluding the sad sack who saw Umbrae on his car).

 

Also, most importantly, horror movies are built on cold weapons so that's a trope that has to be in. You don't have gun-totin horror hence slasher horror sub-genre.

 

The copters could be news and I'm sure someone will zoom them eventually to settle the matter. We did see a Tethered attack the reporter/cameraman and presumably kill him since the camera fell to the ground, so there was a bit of news coverage. I do think that both that news coverage and areal shot of Hands Across America was more for the audience to grasp the scale of the disaster than make a vague statement.

 

 

Edited March 23, 2019 by Valonqar