Fantastic Four | Marvel Studios | July 25, 2025 | Matt Shakman directs

[Eric the Ape]

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We're not doing this sexist nonsense. If you can't handle women being cast in a silly kids movie about superheroes, go somewhere else. We're not the only place on the Internet where you can talk about Marvel. Don't know why I have to keep reiterating this stuff, but I guess I'll keep doing it until some folks get the message.

[JWR]

Interesting casting. Hoping it pans out.

[AN9815]

8 hours ago, marveldcfox said:

No one wants this version of silver surfer. Bombs away. 

What do you mean by no one? The majority of people who watch superhero movies aren't even hardcore Marvel fans nor have picked up a single comic book in their entire life. Moreover, even within the hardcore fans luckily some of us have common sense and don't get offended when they cast a woman lol 

[fabiopazzo2]

Well... we will see 😃

[cannastop]

25 minutes ago, AN9815 said:

What do you mean by no one? The majority of people who watch superhero movies aren't even hardcore Marvel fans nor have picked up a single comic book in their entire life. Moreover, even within the hardcore fans luckily some of us have common sense and don't get offended when they cast a woman lol 

I've even seen some comic book fans (as in nerds who actually read comic books) defend this decision to have a female silver surfer.

[PlatnumRoyce]

  

2 minutes ago, AN9815 said:

Moreover, even within the hardcore fans luckily some of us have common sense and don't get offended when they cast a woman lol

Plenty of "true fans" got angry at James Bond for being blond in 2006. It's been completely memory holed because the reaction didn't match people's actual experience of the Craig films. Fan anxiety that adaptation will not match their desires is also just a thing in-and-of-itself that's just hard to engage with before you actually have a finished product to unveil. Culture war stuff supercharges it but there's also just a more banal anxiety at play. 

 

"This character you've been anticipating will not actually appear but his love interest will and she will have his powers" has a culture war valance but also just has a raw text valance. I'm probably the only person in the world who experienced confusion and annoyance at encountering Basil Karlo as Clayface instead of Matt Hagen, an objectively inferior version of the character (in this case it's less the name than the basic characterization/backstory) because there's a small but real hook to the character from a goofy comic book I read as a 9 year old. 

 

 

This is a very stupid objection from an "objective canon" approach (both gold and post-silver age versions use the version with a more dramatically relevant backstory but it's also just an obviously real gut reaction. It's just goofy how we pretend this doesn't exist when culture war stuff is layered on top. 

 

 

49 minutes ago, AN9815 said:

What do you mean by no one? The majority of people who watch superhero movies aren't even hardcore Marvel fans nor have picked up a single comic book in their entire life. Moreover, even within the hardcore fans luckily some of us have common sense and don't get offended when they cast a woman lol 

The whole text/subtext of this being a morally significant act (often combined with a claim to correcting a past injustice) is not unrelated to the rest of the discourse. That's actually a different dynamic than if audiences will in practice accept or reject an adaptation. Both are interesting but they're obviously separable even if people's rhetoric will never admit that. 

 

Ultimately, adaptations can play by Whose-line-is-it-anyways rules as seen by both TDK and Joker having wildly successful Jokers with a strained connection to the character's target image (including visually for TDK) but it ends up being completely accepted by strength of adaptation. 

 

 

[fabiopazzo2]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5V5WI8Lpp8/?igsh=MWNmdnZ3eWNlam03MQ==
 

At least they gave us a great artwork 

 

 

Edited April 4 by fabiopazzo2

[Hatebox]

2 hours ago, Eric Atreides said:

Why does this always happen when I'm asleep?

Unless a load of posts got deleted before I saw them, nothing happened. Comic book movie discourse is increasingly concerned with imagined outrage way more than actual outrage. Joker really opened the floodgates on that one.
 

anyway, no idea about silver surfer lore but garner almost single-handedly made ozark watchable so this is a win for marvel as far as I’m concerned 

 

Edited April 4 by Hatebox

[kayumanggi]

[WittyUsername]

11 minutes ago, Hatebox said:

Unless a load of posts got deleted before I saw them, nothing happened. Comic book movie discourse is increasingly concerned with imagined outrage way more than actual outrage. Joker really opened the floodgates on that one.
 

anyway, no idea about silver surfer lore but garner almost single-handedly made ozark watchable so this is a win for marvel as far as I’m concerned 

 

There was at least one deleted post that called Disney “woke” for the Julia Garner casting. 

[Hatebox]

2 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

There was at least one deleted post that called Disney “woke” for the Julia Garner casting. 

Fetch the smelling salts 😉

[YM!]

20 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

So considering the futuristic city in the background, I'm pretty sure the movie takes place in a separate universe.

[SpiderByte]

47 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

So Reed and Sues outfits really are the uniforms then!

 

Edit: I just noticed Johnny's face also has the lines on it. Definitely didn't expect them to adapt it so literally

 

Edited April 4 by SpiderByte

[Warmaster506]

Can't wait for a black,transgender, paraplegic holocaust survivor Magneto!

[Eric the Ape]

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@Warmaster506 has been threadbanned for 24 hours for trolling.

 

Again, anybody else who does similar actions will be threadbanned as well. Don't like it? Go somewhere else. Thank you.

[Spidey Freak]

Imagine trying to gatekeep Magneto. THIS CHARACTER 👇

[AMC Theaters Enjoyer]

Given the rumors surrounding the setting of the movie (which seemed to be confirmed by today’s poster) it makes sense for Shalla-Bal to be involved here.

[SpiderByte]

2 hours ago, Warmaster506 said:

Can't wait for a black,transgender, paraplegic holocaust survivor Magneto!

Do you think...do you not know Magneto is already one of those things 

[SpiderByte]

Actually, the bottom right corner of the Torch poster has a credit for 20th Century Studios...hm

 

Just checked and the Deadpool poster also has it, but much smaller in font. Guess it's a holdover from the Fox acquisition?

[dudalb]

3 hours ago, SpiderByte said:

Actually, the bottom right corner of the Torch poster has a credit for 20th Century Studios...hm

 

Just checked and the Deadpool poster also has it, but much smaller in font. Guess it's a holdover from the Fox acquisition?

Giver the full name of the Studio they acquired was 20th Century FOx, that is a very safe guess.

20th Century will be Disney's Touchstone and Hollywood Films for the new miiilinium:Handling material they do not want going out under the Disney label to keep the Disney family friendly thing intact, though R rated movies will not be the only thing Disney will release with the 20th Century label.

Wonder if we will get the famous 20th Century Fanfare with the new 20th cenutry releases.

I think the first film  Disney released with the 20th label was "West Side Story"..though why they did that I don't  know nothing in it that would not have fit under the Disney label.

Edited April 4 by dudalb