Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania | February 17, 2023 | Competing with Eternals on RT, Competing with BvS on box office legs

[Macleod]

24 minutes ago, XXR the Conqueror said:

 

Could be a myriad of people really. Basically anyone we know is coming in Phase 4, 5 and 6. The problem is we just don't have a clue who will be involved and who will be conveniently absent. I assume the "main" heroes would be Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, Thor, Spider-Man, Shang Chi and Black Panther. All of the newer heroes would fill in spaces. 

 

I think the smart way to go (and Feige is pretty damn smart) is to bring fans/audiences' expectations into the narrative, itself -- i.e. many people are "skeptical" about whether this new crop of "Avengers" (and there's no indication they are even a newly-reformed team, yet) can hold their own in audience interest and powerful impact vs. the original team.  Bring that into the story.  KANG might be specifically picking THIS point in the timeline to attack when he KNOWS that the so-called "Avengers" are at their weakest/in a moment of transition... in fact he may even take a strategy of sidelining the senior players (Larson's Marvel, Strange, Thor) in an attempt to take over.  Then we'll see what they're really made of.  I assume since Cretton is Directing at least one of these that Shang-Chi will be a big player. 

 

In Ant-Man, of course, KANG is testing the waters to get Lang to do something for him in the Quantum Realm.  But we don't even know if this same KANG will be the one showing up in KANG DYNASTY...or there may be MANY of them...

Edited January 2, 2023 by Macleod

[Factcheck]

1 hour ago, Macleod said:

 

I think the smart way to go (and Feige is pretty damn smart) is to bring fans/audiences' expectations into the narrative, itself -- i.e. many people are "skeptical" about whether this new crop of "Avengers" (and there's no indication they are even a newly-reformed team, yet) can hold their own in audience interest and powerful impact vs. the original team.  Bring that into the story.  KANG might be specifically picking THIS point in the timeline to attack when he KNOWS that the so-called "Avengers" are at their weakest/in a moment of transition... in fact he may even take a strategy of sidelining the senior players (Larson's Marvel, Strange, Thor) in an attempt to take over.  Then we'll see what they're really made of.  I assume since Cretton is Directing at least one of these that Shang-Chi will be a big player. 

 

In Ant-Man, of course, KANG is testing the waters to get Lang to do something for him in the Quantum Realm.  But we don't even know if this same KANG will be the one showing up in KANG DYNASTY...or there may be MANY of them...

We'll know who are the Avengers now only when Feige and Marvel Studios officially announce it, which they will do if not this year, then by February or March 2024, as they will start filming at that time. And if Feige doesn't reveal the first, second, and third billing of Avengers 5, then its official poster in December 2024 will make it clear.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Factcheck

[CJohn]

Ant-Man and the Wasp without China/Russia did 487M WW. With worse exchange rates and no China/Russia, I predict 450-500M WW for this one.

[John Marston]

This will be one of the most important runs this year. It will show us how big or not superhero fatigue is

[Saul Goodman]

More important would be to see what reason China comes up with to ban it lol.

[Firepower]

13 hours ago, marveldcfox said:

I think reviews for this will be much better than expected ...90+%. Hence, MCU crowd will get excited and get it to a 105+ opening. Wom will be surprisingly very good..will end with 280+ domestically. It also helps that it will be the first big movie since Avatar 2, so it might overperform in international markets barring few. I have a feeling it will somehow crack 650M WW without China and Russia

Ant-Man and The Wasp is 87% and probably was 90+% when it was released. No way this one is doing much more than the previous one.

Edited January 2, 2023 by Firepower

[Cap]

1 hour ago, XXR the Conqueror said:

I assume the "main" heroes would be Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, Thor, Spider-Man, Shang Chi and Black Panther. All of the newer heroes would fill in spaces.

The DISRESPECT 

 

[Macleod]

6 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

More important would be to see what reason China comes up with to ban it lol.

 

"We don't want the Chinese public to be misled in thinking the Quantum realm actually exists from Westerners...because we are working on it, ourselves."

Edited January 2, 2023 by Macleod

[Firepower]

53 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Ant-Man and the Wasp without China/Russia did 487M WW. With worse exchange rates and no China/Russia, I predict 450-500M WW for this one.

Probably more realistic prediction than 600-700 mln.

[XXR & Friends]

1 minute ago, Cap said:

The DISRESPECT 

 

Oh yea I forgot about him. Now you wanna talk about a 80M opener, just wait until Cap 4! 😜

[Cap]

Just now, XXR the Conqueror said:

Oh yea I forgot about him. Now you wanna talk about a 80M opener, just wait until Cap 4! 😜

Hold on, let me get something 

 

 

Ban

[Brainbug]

3 minutes ago, XXR the Conqueror said:

Oh yea I forgot about him. Now you wanna talk about a 80M opener, just wait until Cap 4! 😜

 

1 minute ago, Cap said:

Hold on, let me get something 

 

 

Ban

 

Mods banning Mods. We're in the Endgame now.

[interiorgatordecorator]

1 hour ago, XXR the Conqueror said:

All of the newer heroes would fill in spaces. 

 

but theres way too many of them and the GA doesnt care about the majority of those

[JustLurking]

17 minutes ago, XXR the Conqueror said:

Oh yea I forgot about him. Now you wanna talk about a 80M opener, just wait until Cap 4! 😜

Unironically though, I probably would take the under 500M ww for cap4 👀

[Menor the Destroyer]

Just now, JustLurking said:

Unironically though, I probably would take the under 500M ww for cap4 👀

I would not. Though I might have a few months ago.

 

[THUNDER BIRD]

43 minutes ago, JustLurking said:

Unironically though, I probably would take the under 500M ww for cap4 👀

With what i know about it. 

 

No chance.

[Firepower]

500-600 for Ant-Man, 500-600 for Captain Marvel. Around 700 for Guardians 3. Everything without China.

[Saul Goodman]

It'll be hard to top the first trailer with Goodbye Yellow Brick Road song.

[Cap]

33 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

It'll be hard to top the first trailer with Goodbye Yellow Brick Road song.

@WrathOfHan some still likes the trailer!!

[Jeight]

19 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

but theres way too many of them and the GA doesnt care about the majority of those

Are we still talking about Marvel or their competition here?