Krissykins Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) Watched the finale. A few characters ended up with great arcs. Some were thrown under the bus. A very slow, unnecessary 3 or 4 episodes with an (eventually) satisfying ending. Spoiler I just hope the MCU isn’t trying to resurrect Vision in some way. That would be an extreme cop out. We know they’re scared of killing off characters, and in fact they’ve actually killed so few. Monica was wasted. Quicksilver ended up as... a... boner joke? First three episodes were a chore to sit through. Some iffy VFX in the finale. Darcy and Woo basically disappeared with no resolution. Hahn and Olsen MVP’s, unsurprisingly. overall, 6/10. Edited March 5, 2021 by Krissykins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnokesLegs Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Menor said: Hide contents To be honest I would have felt a bit cheated if we introduced White Vision and Agatha Harkness as antagonists and we didn't get rays and red/purple blasts everywhere. Anyway, while I can understand dislike of certain subplots/balance/pacing, I do struggle to understand the "no emotional payoff" criticism. Wanda has to watch Vision die for the third time, let her kids die as well, and she is once again (with reason) viewed by the world as a villain! I guess maybe people aren't feeling it because White Vision is still around? Spoiler That lump in my throat when Vision said “so long, darling” definitely says that there was an emotional payoff for me. Just because White Vision exists shouldn’t mean that saying goodbye to the Vision that we’ve watched for 8 episodes is any less meaningful. It obviously didn’t work for some people as this thread shows, but to say there was “no emotional payoff” definitely isn’t right. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liiviig 1998 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Well the finale was terribly underwhelming. Yeah I know people are saying there was too much expectation which is right to an extent regarding all the easter eggs and references but how wanda's arc was resolved was borderline ridiculous. I personally feel after episode 5 that this was going somewhere different and better than the generic and rushed finale we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menor the Destroyer Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, SnokesLegs said: Hide contents That lump in my throat when Vision said “so long, darling” definitely says that there was an emotional payoff for me. Just because White Vision exists shouldn’t mean that saying goodbye to the Vision that we’ve watched for 8 episodes is any less meaningful. It obviously didn’t work for some people as this thread shows, but to say there was “no emotional payoff” definitely isn’t right. Spoiler I also think that the episode clearly shows that White Vision (even with memories) is a very different character than the Vision we know, simply because he just leaves. If he was just Vision V2, he would have stayed to help Wanda. He is clearly not the same, so the loss of Vision was permanent. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 Spoiler Side note but that new custome is DAMNNN 10/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissykins Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Oh I didn’t realise there was such a strong online reaction to Spoiler the boner joke whoops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric the Clown Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, WandaLegion said: Starting to feel like a lot of people went into this MCU project expecting it to be... not MCU, for some reason? The lame MCU tropes built a 23B franchise, like em or dislike em they’re probably not going anywhere. Cool. That doesn't mean I can't dislike them or feel they detract from the show. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 No spoilers for WandaVision, but here is my ranking of MCU properties now that it's over. My rankings are kind of fluid after the top 3. Some can/have moved up or down slightly depending on how I feel in the moment. For what it's worth, there's no MCU film I dislike or think is "bad" I just think some are meh. 1. Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Avengers: Infinity War 3. Avengers: Endgame 4. Thor: Ragnarok 5. Marvel's The Avengers 6. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 7. WandaVision 8. Iron Man 9. Captain America: Civil War 10. Black Panther 11. Avengers: Age of Ultron 12. Doctor Strange 13. Spider-Man: Homecoming 14. Thor 15. Spider-Man: Far From Home 16. Ant-Man and the Wasp 17. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 18. Captain Marvel 19. Iron Man 3 20. Ant-Man 21. Thor: The Dark World 22. The Incredible Hulk 23. Captain America: The First Avenger 24. Iron Man 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 very similar to mine Venom 1. Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Thor: Ragnarok 3. Avengers: Endgame 4. WandaVision 5. Avengers: Infinity War 6. The Avengers 7. Doctor Strange 8. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 9. Captain America: Civil War 10. Iron Man 11. Spider-Man: Homecoming 12. Ant-Man 13. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 14. Avengers: Age of Ultron 15. Captain Marvel 16. Black Panther 17. Ant-Man and the Wasp 18. Spider-Man: Far from Home 19. Thor 20. Thor: The Dark World 21. Iron Man 3 22. Iron Man 2 23. Captain America: The First Avenger 24. The Incredible Hulk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Oh yay ranking time 1. Avengers Endgame 2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 3. Avengers Infinity War 4. The Avengers 5. Thor Ragnarok 6. Black Panther 7. Guardians of the Galaxy 8. WandaVision (was No 5 but the finale bumps it a bit down) 9. Captain America Civil War 10. Spider-Man: Far From Home 11. Spider-Man: Homecoming. 12. Iron Man 3 13. Iron Man 14. Captain America: The First Avenger 15. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 16. Captain Marvel 17. Avengers: Age of Ultron 18. Ant-Man 19. Thor 20. Doctor Strange 21. Ant-Man and the Wasp 22. Iron Man 2 23. Thor: The Dark World 24. The Incredible Hulk Edited March 6, 2021 by Darth Lehnsherr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyDeadlinePredictions Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 The Wanda/Vision family stuff was great throughout the show and finale. Everything else that was built up fell completely flat at the end. Spoiler Also lmao at Monica's sacrifice line to Wanda while all the people she tortured and imprisoned stand in the background pissed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menor the Destroyer Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Great: Avengers: Endgame Avengers: Infinity War Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 Very good: Spider-Man: Far From Home Captain America: Civil War Black Panther Spider-Man: Homecoming The Avengers Thor: Ragnarok Guardians of the Galaxy Thor Captain America: The Winter Soldier Captain America: The First Avenger Good: Wandavision (tentatively) Ant-Man and the Wasp Ant-Man Captain Marvel Iron Man Flawed but entertaining: Iron Man 3 Avengers: Age of Ultron Doctor Strange Meh: Iron Man 2 Thor: The Dark World Haven't seen the Incredible Hulk Edited March 6, 2021 by Menor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnokesLegs Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Menor said: Hide contents I also think that the episode clearly shows that White Vision (even with memories) is a very different character than the Vision we know, simply because he just leaves. If he was just Vision V2, he would have stayed to help Wanda. He is clearly not the same, so the loss of Vision was permanent. Spoiler Exactly, plus I read into it that White Vision would probably now be wrestling with his command to “destroy The Vision” now that he effectively IS Vision. It should be interesting to see where that goes further down the line, and also what Wanda will do when she realises that he’s still out there with her Vision’s memories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Eric and the Last Dragon said: Cool. That doesn't mean I can't dislike them or feel they detract from the show. Indeed, not trying to imply otherwise. Spoiler Just meant it as something to keep in mind when calibrating expectations for the Loki or Ms Marvel or Hawkeye etc finales. These MCU final acts are still, at their core, MCU final acts. Some of them might buck the trend and have a more unique structure but my baseline expectation is CGI brawl with main character and a main villain who probably has some similarities, maybe a few colored beams here and there. I appreciate some variety myself, but I also kind of agree with what Menor said recently — with how ep 8 set up Agatha and White Vision, *not* getting a red and purple glowy witch duel or dueling laser beam robots would have been kind of a letdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 Saw this on a reddit thread and I think I would agree Spoiler So I'm pretty sure the 2nd post-credits scene was directed by Sam Raimi himself. I mean, it happens a while after the story has ended. It takes place in a cabin in the woods, has that weird atmosphere of unease to it and features a typical Raimi Evil Dead shot. Kids yelling for help in a creepy way. Also, Wanda does exactly what Doctor Strange does in his own movie, to the T (which Raimi is directing). (There's another Raimi shot in the series btw, when the Hex is collapsing toward the house at the end. Probably a homage or... a sign of things to come?) So basically what I'm saying is, they pulled a scene right out of his movie and used it as a post-credits teaser here is what I think has happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Ah, must be that time of thread again: https://boxd.it/1KoZu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Ranking Time. A little note that I am changing the order of ranking 3rd time in last 7 days so it's very fluid. Avengers: Infinity Wars Avengers: Endgame Thor: Ragnarok Civil War Guardians of the Galaxy Iron Man Spider-man: Homecoming Doctor Strange Black Panther Captain America: The Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 Ant-man Captain America: The First Avenger Ant-man and the Wasp Avengers: Assemble Captain Marvel WandaVision Thor Avengers: Age of Ultron Spider-man: Far From Home Iron Man 2 Thor: Dark World Iron Man 3 Incredible Hulk 1st one is fixated. Great. 2-4 are rotational. Great. Endgame is actually quite average film, but the sheer size and epicness it pulls, deserve to be #2. 5-9 are on similar level. Great. 10-14 are on similar level. Excellent. 15-18. Good. 19-22. Average but Good. 23. Average. 24. We don't talk about that. Edited March 6, 2021 by jatvision 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menor the Destroyer Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, WandaLegion said: Indeed, not trying to imply otherwise. Hide contents Just meant it as something to keep in mind when calibrating expectations for the Loki or Ms Marvel or Hawkeye etc finales. These MCU final acts are still, at their core, MCU final acts. Some of them might buck the trend and have a more unique structure but my baseline expectation is CGI brawl with main character and a main villain who probably has some similarities, maybe a few colored beams here and there. I appreciate some variety myself, but I also kind of agree with what Menor said recently — with how ep 8 set up Agatha and White Vision, *not* getting a red and purple glowy witch duel or dueling laser beam robots would have been kind of a letdown. I will alter my previous statement Spoiler I think the battle between Agatha and Wanda should have been more indulgent and CGI-heavy. Show cooler and weirder-looking powers than just glorified blaster bolts. Edited March 6, 2021 by Menor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Menor said: I will alter my previous statement Reveal hidden contents I think the battle between Agatha and Wanda should have been more indulgent and CGI-heavy. Show cooler and weirder-looking powers than just glorified blaster bolts. Spoiler may be have stuff like Titan war of Strange vs Thanos. I thought it was going there when Wanda started with her mind thingy reaching in Salem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Menor said: I will alter my previous statement Hide contents I think the battle between Agatha and Wanda should have been more indulgent and CGI-heavy. Show cooler and weirder-looking powers than just glorified blaster bolts. Yeah I agree, this was actually my main complaint about it. Spoiler The Thanos Strange right on Titan was just sooooooo sick. This felt like a pretty uncreative magic fight. Hopefully she gets some better showcases in DS2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...