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PSA:   As a heads up to everyone, we'll be starting a new thread here very soon. For those who are newer to the forum, we typically have to split threads once they reach 1,000+ pages and are still highly active. In the past, such topics have created database slowdown issues that affect the entire forum.   Rest assured, this thread will be archived when it is locked and a link to the new one will be posted to help you find it easily (it will also be pinned to the top of the box o
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Yea we're gonna drop all this non tracking stuff. That expressly means you, @excel1. Next post from you that isn't tracking related is a thread ban.    Anyone else continues, it's points. 

We're all tired of the non-tracking related thread derailments. This is your fair warning.

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Animation is really suffering.

Just see how poor encanto made on theaters and then how it exploded in streaming. Seems like it's the genre people see more like "i can see it at home in 2 months, i can wait", 

 

Yeah i know but Minions. As we know that didn't get families but kids and 20s and something. 

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10 minutes ago, BruiseCruise said:

https://variety.com/2022/film/box-office/box-office-paws-of-fury-where-the-crawdads-sing-opening-1235314541/

 

$55-65m for Thor L&T

 

Hope for $10m+ for Crawdads and Paws of Fury

 

 

"Reviews for “Paws of Fury” are still under embargo, so it’s unclear how critics responded to a movie that over-indexes on fart jokes."

 

 

 

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Crawdads tonight has some 7-7.20 Pm early showings.

As predictable with very few shows most of them are already almost sold out (the auditorium i saw are all in the range of 50-100 seats). 

 

 

 

 

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Nope

SW/Toronto Ontario t-9 (fri t-0) no comps

 

NOPE # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Thurs 20 67 214 15411 15625 0.0138
Fri 5 20 120 6440 6560 0.0182

 

A week out Cineplex has dropped more Thursday inventory, but not for the friday yet, hence the disparity.

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:
Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
Crawdads T-1 Jax 6 24 40 202 2,337 8.64%
    Phx 5 19 26 93 2,273 4.09%
    Ral 7 29 74 413 2,784 14.83%
ATP: 11.96 Total   18 72 140 708 7,394 9.58%
Crawdads (EA) T-0 Jax 1 2 1 54 222 24.32%
  Total   1 2 1 54 222 24.32%
Easter Sunday T-22 Jax 6 15 0 5 2,232 0.22%
    Phx 3 9 -1 0 1,134 0.00%
    Ral 7 16 0 4 1,976 0.20%
  Total   16 40 -1 9 5,342 0.17%
Mrs. Harris T-1 Jax 4 8 9 18 376 4.79%
    Phx 2 4 7 12 190 6.32%
    Ral 3 4 4 21 401 5.24%
  Total   9 16 20 51 967 5.27%
Nope T-8 Jax 7 50 11 123 8,422 1.46%
    Phx 6 20 3 194 4,344 4.47%
    Ral 8 28 10 178 3,670 4.85%
  Total   21 98 24 495 16,436 3.01%
Paws of Fury T-1 Jax 6 27 7 24 2,550 0.94%
    Phx 5 17 14 37 1,797 2.06%
    Ral 6 17 10 38 1,811 2.10%
ATP: 10.91 Total   17 61 31 99 6,158 1.61%
Super Pets T-15 Jax 6 38 6 6 4,934 0.12%
    Phx 5 23 10 10 3,483 0.29%
    Ral 7 24 3 3 3,404 0.09%
ATP: 13.88 Total   18 85 19 19 11,821 0.16%

 

 

Still just the one location with EA tonight, but they added a second showing.  Pretty modest numbers for Crawdads yesterday; perhaps this will let other regions without the book fan rush catch up a little.

 

Crawdads T-1 comps

 - Elvis - .823x (2.63m)

 - Dune - .402x (2.05m)

 - Uncharted - .758x (2.8m)

 - Black Phone - 1.65x (4.29m)

 - Halloween Kills - .5x (2.43m)

 - Ghostbusters - .505x (2.1m)

 - Dear Evan Hansen - 4.88x (2.93m)

 - West Side Story - 3.83x (3.06m)

 - Death on the Nile - 2.84x (3.13m)

 - Marry Me - 5.02x (2.64m)

 - Dog - 7.08x (8.92m)

 - Lost City - 1.466x (3.66m)

 - Downton + EA - 1.33x (1.4m)

 

Paws of Fury T-1 comps

 - Bad Guys - .651x (749k)

 - Peter Rabbit - .925x (833k)

 - Paw Patrol (Fri) - .128x (577k)

 - Encanto (Tue) - .319x (479k)

 - Ron's Gone Wrong - 3.81x (914k)

 

Mrs. Harris T-1 comps

 - Stillwater - 1.085x (304k)

 - Respect - .486x (316k)

 - House of Gucci - .14x (183k)

 - Spencer - 1.02x

 

Nope T-8 comps

 - Ghostbusters - .903x (3.75m)

 - NTTD - .84x (4.37m)

 - Suicide Squad - 1.45x (5.93m)

 - F9 - .55x (3.9m)

 - Morbius - .68x (3.85m)

 - Dune - .666x (3.4m)

 

Super Pets T-15 comps

 - Minions 2 - .077x (824k)

 - Sonic 2 - .063x (313k)

 

Very early and nothing to worry about.

Growth rates here still decently strong, pacing ahead of Elvis, which was not a given its going to skew to a fan-heavy female audience. In fact, could wind up close to matching the 1600 total for your T-1hr samples

 

... but that's heavily propped up by Raleigh, almost certainly overindexing, and throwing off the ratios. Think over $2M Thursday (including EA) is happening, but can't be much more precise than that. So high teens for weekend (?), nothing too surprising it looks like

 

EDIT: For Crawdads, not Paws of Floppy :rofl:

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54 minutes ago, M37 said:

Growth rates here still decently strong, pacing ahead of Elvis, which was not a given its going to skew to a fan-heavy female audience. In fact, could wind up close to matching the 1600 total for your T-1hr samples

 

... but that's heavily propped up by Raleigh, almost certainly overindexing, and throwing off the ratios. Think over $2M Thursday (including EA) is happening, but can't be much more precise than that. So high teens for weekend (?), nothing too surprising it looks like

 

EDIT: For Crawdads, not Paws of Floppy :rofl:

I was going to look at rates today to give a target for sales, but decided to focus on something else.  I’m still on the $2m train just based on sales for now

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Paws of Justice will have either the second or third lowest OW for an animated movie since 2020

For reference these are some other animated movies and their OWs

The Croods 2 (Nov 2020) - 9.72M

Raya (Mar 2021) - 8.52M

Spirit 2 (June 2021) - 6.10M

Boss Baby 2 (July 2021) - 16M

Paw Patrol (Aug 2021) - 13.14M

Addams 2 (Oct 2021) - 17.35M

Ron's Gone Wrong (Oct 2021) - 7.30M

Encanto (Nov 2021) - 27.20M

Sing 2 (Dec 2021) - 22.32M

Bad Guys (Mar 2022) - 23.95M

Lightyear (June 2022) - 50.57M

Minions 2 - 107.01M

 

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Paws of Fury: The Legend of Hank, counted today at 10am EST for Thursday, July 14:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 33 (3 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 12 (3 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 1 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 2 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 15 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 17 ( 3 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 42 (5 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 122.
Comps: Sorry, I just don't have fitting comps here.

 

Paws of Fury: The Legend of Hank, counted today at 10am EST for Friday, July 15:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 45 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 6 (4 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 0 (5 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 2 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 5 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 17 (5 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 11 (4 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 91.
28% up since yesterday.
Comps (all counted on Wednesday for Friday): The Boss Baby 2 had 140 sold tickets in 6 theaters,

Paw Patrol had 279 sold tickets also in 6 theaters

and JC had 655 sold tickets in 7 theaters.

Unfortunately at the moment I don't see it hit double digits.


Where the Crawdads Sing, counted today at 10am EST for Thursday, July 14:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): still no showtimes
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 16 (3 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 35 (5 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 19 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 20 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 40 (3 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 82 (5 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 212.
74% up since Monday, quite good.
Comp: Death on the Nile had on the same day 359 sold tickets, 285 in the same 6 theaters.

 

Where the Crawdads Sing, counted today at 10am EST for Friday, July 15:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): still no showtimes
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 13 (8 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 44 (8 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 21 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 21 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 48 ( 5 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal):38 (7 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 6 theaters: 185.
Up decent 113% since Monday.
Comps (all counted on Wednesday for Friday): Old had in the same 6 theaters 184 sold tickets,

The Night House had 72,

The Last Duel had 96,

The Good Liar 70 in 6 theaters

and Death on the Nile had 295 in the same 6 theaters.

 

That looks better today. At the moment I would say it will reach double digits.

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2 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

I was going to look at rates today to give a target for sales, but decided to focus on something else.  I’m still on the $2m train just based on sales for now

So what I ended up looking at instead is the Crawdads EA shows for tonight.  I started running them around 12:30 EST and took a break for lunch.  I'll try to update with final-ish numbers later.  For now gross is a little over 211k for EA (using adult prices and could be missing shows.)

 

Chain Theaters Shows Sold Capacity Gross
MTC1 86 100 4,902 11,645 80,213
MTC2 59 84 3,287 7,677 42,640
Harkins 5 5 378 732 4,742
Marcus 13 13 865 1,748 10,920
Other 16 18 941 1,814 12,287
MTC3 53 62 4,399 8,671 60,594
Grand Total 232 282 14,772 32,287 $211,396

 

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6 hours ago, vale9001 said:

Animation is really suffering.

Just see how poor encanto made on theaters and then how it exploded in streaming. Seems like it's the genre people see more like "i can see it at home in 2 months, i can wait", 

 

Yeah i know but Minions. As we know that didn't get families but kids and 20s and something. 

There was still a lot more families.


The problem is with Disney. And frankly putting Turning Red on streaming was a huge mistake. Even if it boosted subscribers.

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Not sure if this forum knows or not, so maybe this will be redundant, but hearing that Bullet Train goes on sale on Wed, Jul 20.

 

My Discord friend who passes along this info isn't a member on this board, but maybe one day I'll convince him.

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Whoops, Vengeance actually went on sale today. Scratch that part, but Bullet Train should still be on the 20th.

 

As mentioned in various articles already, Spidey extended is on sale on 8/9 and Dragon Ball on 7/22.

 

That's at least all I know of for now.

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5 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

So what I ended up looking at instead is the Crawdads EA shows for tonight.  I started running them around 12:30 EST and took a break for lunch.  I'll try to update with final-ish numbers later.  For now gross is a little over 211k for EA (using adult prices and could be missing shows.)

 

Chain Theaters Shows Sold Capacity Gross
MTC1 86 100 4,902 11,645 80,213
MTC2 59 84 3,287 7,677 42,640
Harkins 5 5 378 732 4,742
Marcus 13 13 865 1,748 10,920
Other 16 18 941 1,814 12,287
MTC3 53 62 4,399 8,671 60,594
Grand Total 232 282 14,772 32,287 $211,396

 

Final numbers

 

Chain Theaters Shows Late Capacity Gross
MTC1 86 101 6,316 11,717 104,091
MTC2 59 84 4,259 7,677 53,805
Harkins 5 5 466 732 5,869
Marcus 13 13 1,011 1,748 12,791
Other 16 18 1,117 1,814 14,596
MTC3 53 63 5,354 8,902 73,608
Grand Total 232 284 18,523 32,590 $264,760

 

Top states

 

State Theaters Shows Late Capacity Gross
CA 40 44 2,368 5,257 $37,850
TX 19 30 1,612 2,882 $22,605
NY 15 16 986 2,270 $15,943
FL 11 14 1,014 1,543 $14,550
OH 12 13 922 1,587 $11,654
VA 9 11 885 1,561 $12,514
TN 6 11 869 1,371 $12,709

 

These totals don't include Canada or any theaters without reserved seating.  I am seeing a good number of showings in Canada tonight, so maybe the total gets close to $300k for early access.  With good walkups maybe it gets to $2.5 total previews.

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