The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

[katnisscinnaplex]

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Boogeyman	T-2	Jax	5	10	22	22	980	2.24%
		Phx	6	13	26	26	1,090	2.39%
		Ral	7	14	31	31	1,122	2.76%
	Total		18	37	79	79	3,192	2.47%
Spiderverse 2	T-2	Jax	6	67	1,403	1,403	11,294	12.42%
		Phx	6	70	1,482	1,482	11,837	12.52%
		Ral	8	69	1,147	1,147	9,179	12.50%
	Total		20	206	4,032	4,032	32,310	12.48%

 

Hey all!  I've been bogged down with work lately and haven't kept up with box office at all.  I did finally catch up on some things by working through the holiday yesterday so I had time to do a run this morning.

 

Spider-verse 2 T-2 comps

 - Sonic 2 Total - 2.777x (17.36m)

 - Lightyear Total - 3.84x (21.12m)

 - Shazam 2 - 5.64x (19.17m)

 - Ghostbusters Total - 3.58x (16.11m)

 - Ant-Man 3 - .632x (11.05m)

 

Boogeyman T-2 comps

 - Escape Room 2 - .775x (929k)

 - M3GAN - .361x (992k)

 - Prey for the Devil - 1.053x (695k)

 - The Invitation - 1.179x (914k)

[CJohn]

Boogeyman HURTS.

[M37]

3 minutes ago, YSLDC said:

 

Wait, if optimistic scenario is 13.5, what is the bad scenario?

Like $11M Thursday? I'm giving Flash the benefit of the doubt and presuming, despite the EA shows and long sales window, that it will pace close to Black Adam, with a potential review bump on top of that.

 

But sales volume is way below where Spider-Verse sat at these same checkpoints, and that's already a high pace film (with expected good reviews), so running at ~60% of that total just isn't great

[Dragoncaine]

49 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:

Ok so we have a date and the discussion can end (and trackers can see if there’s a major difference on sales after this date) 

 

 

Awesome. At this point it feels like WB's top priority is having a certified fresh emblem attached to this movie with 10 days of presales left to go from the point of review embargo dropping. I think low 80s is the ideal scenario, with mid-high 70s more likely.

[M37]

4 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Boogeyman	T-2	Jax	5	10	22	22	980	2.24%
		Phx	6	13	26	26	1,090	2.39%
		Ral	7	14	31	31	1,122	2.76%
	Total		18	37	79	79	3,192	2.47%
Spiderverse 2	T-2	Jax	6	67	1,403	1,403	11,294	12.42%
		Phx	6	70	1,482	1,482	11,837	12.52%
		Ral	8	69	1,147	1,147	9,179	12.50%
	Total		20	206	4,032	4,032	32,310	12.48%

 

Hey all!  I've been bogged down with work lately and haven't kept up with box office at all.  I did finally catch up on some things by working through the holiday yesterday so I had time to do a run this morning.

 

Spider-verse 2 T-2 comps

 - Sonic 2 Total - 2.777x (17.36m)

 - Lightyear Total - 3.84x (21.12m)

 - Shazam 2 - 5.64x (19.17m)

 - Ghostbusters Total - 3.58x (16.11m)

 - Ant-Man 3 - .632x (11.05m)

 

Boogeyman T-2 comps

 - Escape Room 2 - .775x (929k)

 - M3GAN - .361x (992k)

 - Prey for the Devil - 1.053x (695k)

 - The Invitation - 1.179x (914k)

Welcome back! (for as much as you can be)

 

Are there any EA shows for Boogeyman in your markets (for today)? Those have been selling fairly well (compared to Thur) in my spot checks, and might bump up those comp values

[BadOlCatSylvester]

3 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Boogeyman HURTS.

Reactions not being allowed out of CinemaCon was a pretty bad omen indeed. The final reviews being muted won't help either. It sure sounds like those reported positive test screenings were the typical friends and family spiel Disney specializes in, which backfired for them on Elemental and Indiana Jones 5 too. I can't help but wonder if this was better off staying on Hulu. Either way, we have yet another Foxney flop. Pretty much everything they've done besides Avatar 2 bombed so far. I dread the studio not making it to the next decade.

[charlie Jatinder]

16 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie	Day	Area	TC	Shows	New	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Boogeyman	T-2	Jax	5	10	22	22	980	2.24%
		Phx	6	13	26	26	1,090	2.39%
		Ral	7	14	31	31	1,122	2.76%
	Total		18	37	79	79	3,192	2.47%
Spiderverse 2	T-2	Jax	6	67	1,403	1,403	11,294	12.42%
		Phx	6	70	1,482	1,482	11,837	12.52%
		Ral	8	69	1,147	1,147	9,179	12.50%
	Total		20	206	4,032	4,032	32,310	12.48%

 

Hey all!  I've been bogged down with work lately and haven't kept up with box office at all.  I did finally catch up on some things by working through the holiday yesterday so I had time to do a run this morning.

 

Spider-verse 2 T-2 comps

 - Sonic 2 Total - 2.777x (17.36m)

 - Lightyear Total - 3.84x (21.12m)

 - Shazam 2 - 5.64x (19.17m)

 - Ghostbusters Total - 3.58x (16.11m)

 - Ant-Man 3 - .632x (11.05m)

 

Boogeyman T-2 comps

 - Escape Room 2 - .775x (929k)

 - M3GAN - .361x (992k)

 - Prey for the Devil - 1.053x (695k)

 - The Invitation - 1.179x (914k)

He lives

[cooldude97]

Wish I could peak into a alternate universe and see what the flash's pre-sales would look like without batman in the film

[Eric Quinn]

On 5/29/2023 at 8:47 AM, Prince Eric said:

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-4 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	123	3005	23838	12.61%

 

Comp - T-4

2.586x of Sonic 2 (16.16M)

1.106x of Jurassic World 3 (19.91M)

0.389x of Thor 4 (11.28M)

2.159x of Black Adam (16.41M)

0.907x of Avatar 2 (15.42M)

0.539x of Ant-Man 3 (9.44M)

0.641x of Guardians 3 (11.21M)

 

Yeah I realize I haven't posted updates much. I have been tracking this stuff every day, but I have been so busy with modding and work and personal stuff that it's hard to remember to post this stuff. Especially since even tracking two movies takes a good chunk out of my day. By the time I'm done with work, I have to move immediately to tracking movies.

 

This is basically a long-winded way of me saying that after The Flash is done, I'm taking a hiatus from tracking Philly. It's just becoming more and more of a chore lately and I need some time away from it for a while.

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	123	3396	23838	14.25%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 391

 

Comp - T-3

2.434x of Sonic 2 (15.21M)

1.092x of Jurassic World 3 (19.65M)

0.411x of Thor 4 (11.91M)

2.121x of Black Adam (16.12M)

0.921x of Avatar 2 (15.66M)

0.571x of Ant-Man 3 (9.99M)

0.642x of Guardians 3 (11.24M)

1.049x of the Little Mermaid (10.8M)

[filmlover]

Boogeyman probably didn't cost a whole lot so it's not likely to lose much (if any) money. It should end up doing at least okay amidst all these big movies, just won't be another horror breakout like the ones we've seen recently.

[TigerPaw]

33 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:

I'm expecting reception on par with the first Aquaman movie. Not great, but gloriously fun schlock.

Just based on the particular quote (which can be heard in the trailer as well) that i have seen most reviewers reference to.... I have a feeling this will be quite an emotionally heavy movie

[raegr]

1 hour ago, ThomasNicole said:

Ok so we have a date and the discussion can end (and trackers can see if there’s a major difference on sales after this date) 

 

 

well what do we have here. june 6th is perfect because if it was earlier it would get buried in spiderverse hype. this is the correct move and shows lots of confidence. 

[katnisscinnaplex]

16 minutes ago, M37 said:

Welcome back! (for as much as you can be)

 

Are there any EA shows for Boogeyman in your markets (for today)? Those have been selling fairly well (compared to Thur) in my spot checks, and might bump up those comp values

Thanks! 

It looks like today might just be Alamo shows, but AMC has a little over 100 shows tomorrow.  There are two in my areas that have sold 17/123 and 15/51.  It might put the preview around 1.25m depending on how many sales they are pulling from Thursday.

[Eric Quinn]

The Boogeyman Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-3 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	26	105	2993	3.51%

 

Comp - T-3

1.419x of X (624K)

0.282x of The Black Phone (847K)

1.875x of The Invitation (1.45M)

1.265x of Barbarian (1.07M)

0.330x of Smile (660K)

0.410x of Knock at the Cabin (595K)

2.187x of The Pope's Exorcist (1.86M)

[Cmasterclay]

EDIT: Deleting in abundance of caution.

Edited May 30, 2023 by Cmasterclay

[Boxofficerules]

37 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Boogeyman HURTS.

What you mean?

[Tinalera]

Spiderverse 2

Thurs Jun1 Fri June 2 (T-3)

Vancouver and Calgary Canada

 

t-3			# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
	Vancouve	Thurs	3	21	1255	4233	5488	0.2286
		Fri	3	10	744	1255	1999	0.3721
			# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
	Calgary	Thurs	4	17	597	2952	3549	0.1682
		Fri	4	17	785	2914	3699	0.2122

 

 

GOTG 3 (T-3)

 

		# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Vancouver	Thurs	4	26	1157	4192	5349	0.2163
	Fri	4	26	1161	2879	4040	0.2873
		# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Calgary	Thurs	4	26	656	3097	3753	0.1747
	Fri	4	19	744	3592	4336	0.1715

 

Total seat availability

 

 

	V T	V F	C T	C F
spideyv 2	5488	1999	3594	3699
gotg 3	5349	4040	3753	4336
diff	139	-2041	-159	-637

[charlie Jatinder]

Just now, Cmasterclay said:

I hope this doesn't cross into spoiler territory and if it does please delete it, but I heard a rumor about the Flash that if true could blow enough goodwill with the reviewers who are on the edge of fresh/rotten to make a difference.

not The Flash thread.

[Eric Quinn]

On 5/29/2023 at 8:53 AM, Prince Eric said:

The Flash Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-18 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	98	1329	18907	7.03%

 

Comp - T-18

0.305x of The Batman (6.58M)

0.899x of Jurassic World 3 (16.18M)

0.277x of Thor 4 (8.03M)

0.860x of Avatar 2 (14.62M)

0.346x of Ant-Man 3 (6.05M)

The Flash Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-17 and Counting

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	98	1381	18907	7.30%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 52

 

Comp - T-17

0.304x of The Batman (6.57M)

0.910x of Jurassic World 3 (16.37M)

0.282x of Thor 4 (8.18M)

0.857x of Avatar 2 (14.56M)

0.352x of Ant-Man 3 (6.16M)

0.452x of Guardians 3 (7.91M)

[Tinalera]

The Flash

Thurs Jun 15 and Fri June 16 (T-17)

Vancouver and Calgary Canada

 

Flash
vanc	# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Thurs	3	12	174	2753	2927	0.0594
Fri	3	15	69	3701	3770	0.0183
calgary	# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Thurs	4	19	117	3678	3795	0.0308
Fri	3	26	95	5055	5150	0.0184

 

GOTG 3 (T-17)

 

T-17		# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Vancouver	Thurs	4	21	562	3749	4311	0.1303
	Fri	4	26	434	4610	5044	0.0860
		# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Calgary	Thurs	4	21	450	3712	4162	0.1081
	Fri	4	25	282	4528	4810	0.0586

 

 

Total seat availability 

 

	V T	V F	C T	C F
Flash	2927	3770	3795	5150
GOTG 3	4311	5044	4162	4810
diff	-1384	-1274	-367	340

 

 

Shazam 2 (T-20)

 

Vancouver	Thurs	3	18	8	3892	3900	0.0020
	Fri	3	22	15	4977	4992	0.0030
		# theatre	#show	Seats Sold	Seats Rem	Ttl seat	Percent
Calgary	Thurs	3	7	7	1299	1306	0.0053
	Fri	3	10	1	1862	1863	0.0005

 

	V T	V F	C T	C F
Flash	2927	3770	3795	5150
Shazam2	3900	1306	1306	1863
diff	-973	2464	2489	3287