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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)

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PSA:   As a heads up to everyone, we'll be starting a new thread here very soon. For those who are newer to the forum, we typically have to split threads once they reach 1,000+ pages and are still highly active. In the past, such topics have created database slowdown issues that affect the entire forum.   Rest assured, this thread will be archived when it is locked and a link to the new one will be posted to help you find it easily (it will also be pinned to the top of the box o
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Yea we're gonna drop all this non tracking stuff. That expressly means you, @excel1. Next post from you that isn't tracking related is a thread ban.    Anyone else continues, it's points. 

We're all tired of the non-tracking related thread derailments. This is your fair warning.

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ThatWaluigiDude Box Office Gold

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6 hours ago, EmpireCity said:

The biggest travesty of all is Disney and Turning Red.  Such a stupid and short sighted decision by people that don't understand simple economics and revenue streams.  

 

Turning Red will gain Disney+ nearly zero new subscribers.  It will retain zero subscribers.  Anyone and everyone that is going to watch Turning Red already subscribes.  

 

What it did cost them is potentially $200m domestic and maybe $500m world wide at the box office.  It also fucked theater owners out of hundreds of millions of dollars in ticket sales and food/beverage sales.  All so the hard work of Pixar can live on some idiots 42 inch tv in bumfuck Ohio.  

Between this, the horrible release strategy of Raya and the surprisingly lack of marketing for Encanto, is shocking the lack of confidence Disney is having with their animated features.

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1 hour ago, ThatWaluigiDude said:

Between this, the horrible release strategy of Raya and the surprisingly lack of marketing for Encanto, is shocking the lack of confidence Disney is having with their animated features.

To be fair, this situation has been hardly unique to Disney when animated titles have been getting (turning) redheaded stepchild treatment across all studios going all the way back to the start of the pandemic. Universal made Trolls 2 a PVOD exclusive title that bypassed theaters and Boss Baby 2 a day-and-date Peacock premiere, WB sent Scoob! to PVOD, Sony sold off their animated titles (The Mitchells vs. the Machines, Vivo) to Netflix, and Paramount made their cartoons either a day-and-date with Paramount+ (Paw Patrol) or a P+ exclusive (Rumble).

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1 hour ago, ThatWaluigiDude said:

Between this, the horrible release strategy of Raya and the surprisingly lack of marketing for Encanto, is shocking the lack of confidence Disney is having with their animated features.

It's more that Disney (and all studios, don't think I'm singling them out) don't care about theaters anymore. They'd rather they die and pocket all the money for themselves, even if that means losing a revenue source in the process. Welcome to the future baby.

 

EDIT: The Paramount Decrees being no more also means this could all be a scheme for Disney/Warner to buy up theater chains. AMC's got crypto bros and Reddit meme stocks on their side, but it will only go so far.

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On 1/21/2022 at 10:07 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie Theaters Shows Change Standard PLF IMAX 3D
Scream 5 3,219 65,384 -23.53% 59,889 5,495 0 0
Spider-Man 3,192 55,910 -12.34% 51,261 4,649 1,910 718
Sing 2 3,046 37,758 -11.00% 37,527 231 0 109
King's Daughter 1,987 26,174   26,116 58 0 0
Redeeming Love 1,836 25,146   25,077 69 0 0
The 355 2,414 23,192 -26.92% 23,137 55 0 0
The King's Man 2,130 20,992 -13.17% 20,959 33 0 0
American Underdog 1,955 16,998 -19.71% 16,968 30 0 0
The Tiger Rising 801 10246   10203 43 0 0
Belle 1,207 10,009 -41.11% 9,992 17 11 0
Ghostbusters 983 7,360 -12.65% 7,349 11 0 0
West Side Story 1,071 7,124 -13.25% 7,115 9 0 0
Licorice Pizza 717 6,873 -4.09% 6,873 0 0 0
House of Gucci 892 5,486 -28.21% 5,486 0 0 0
Matrix Resurrections 824 4,981 -48.92% 4,977 4 4 0
Venom 2 592 3,716 -60.35% 3,703 13 0 13
Encanto 404 2,844 -15.13% 2,832 12 0 12
Nightmare Alley 310 1,795 -35.18% 1,777 18 0 0
Journal for Jordan 255 1,724 -46.79% 1,724 0 0 0
The Tragedy of Macbeth 230 1,666 -30.35% 1,666 0 0 0
No Time to Die 191 1,510   154 1,356 1,356 0
Parallel Mothers 105 1,115 93.58% 1,115 0 0 0

 

US showtime sample 1/21/22 weekend. 

 

Future Releases

 

T-2 week previews

Jackass Forever - 2,779 (1,845 TC)

Moonfall - 2,260 (1,111 TC)

 

T-3 week previews

Marry Me - 2,115 (1,068 TC)

 

Some Uncharted shows popping up as others have said.  Blacklight and Death on the Nile only have a couple theaters listed so far.  

Movie Theaters Shows Change Standard PLF IMAX 3D
Spider-Man 3,163 57,646 3.10% 50,733 6,913 2,723 744
Scream 5 3,144 56,681 -13.31% 53,358 3,323 0 0
Sing 2 3,058 37,453 -0.81% 37,221 232 0 127
Redeeming Love 1,873 21,250 -15.49% 21,185 65 0 0
The 355 2,282 20,698 -10.75% 20,637 61 0 0
The King's Man 2,093 20,302 -3.29% 20,269 33 0 0
American Underdog 1930 16694 -1.79% 16672 22 0 0
King's Daughter 1,759 15,527 -40.68% 15,482 45 0 0
Ghostbusters 1,116 9,511 29.23% 9,500 11 0 0
West Side Story 1,072 7,443 4.48% 7,432 11 0 0
Licorice Pizza 723 6,843 -0.44% 6,843 0 0 0
Parallel Mothers 654 6,541 486.64% 6,541 0 0 0
Nightmare Alley: Vision In Darkness And Light 761 6,109   6,104 5 0 0
House of Gucci 831 5,722 4.30% 5,713 9 0 0
Belle 721 5,713 -42.92% 5,690 23 18 0
The Tiger Rising 691 5,646 -44.90% 5,612 34 0 0
Encanto 561 4,454 56.61% 4,442 12 0 12
Matrix Resurrections 655 4,245 -14.78% 4,245 0 0 0
Venom 2 443 3,274 -11.89% 3,268 6 0 6
Gamestop: Rise of the Players 265 3,112   3,112 0 0 0
Clean 230 2,847   2,847 0 0 0
Nightmare Alley 399 2,129 18.61% 2,129 0 0 0
Flee 206 1,926   1,926 0 0 0

 

US showtime sample 1/28/22 weekend. 

 

Future Releases

 

T-1 week

Jackass Forever - 32,919 (2,445 TC)

Moonfall - 33,048 (2,259 TC) (3,646 IMAX)

 

T-2 week previews

Marry Me - 3,771 (1,845 TC)

Death on the Nile - 2,077 (790 TC) (244 IMAX)

Blacklight - 679 (309 TC)

 

T-3 week previews

Uncharted - 3,304 (813 TC) (240 IMAX)*

 

*AMC has not posted showtimes for Uncharted yet.

 

JF/Moonfall T-1 showtime comps

Halloween Kills - 32,962 (2,343 TC)

Addams Family - 33,520 (2,461 TC)

WSS - 27,605 (1,950 TC)

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2 hours ago, ThatWaluigiDude said:

Between this, the horrible release strategy of Raya and the surprisingly lack of marketing for Encanto, is shocking the lack of confidence Disney is having with their animated features.

They don't have lack of confidence, they just think is doing better on D+, and it's sad saying that but data points to that.

 

Soul break the record of most watched movie on it's debut in 2020 and Luca was simply the biggest movie of 2021 on Nielsen. Both massive on social media as well. Even Onward which was one of the movies that suffers the most with pandemic ended up being huge on D+.

 

Encanto numbers just came out yesterday, 2.3 billion minutes in it's first 3 days, close to a record, the soundtrack is simply massive, the album is coming to 3 weeks at #1 and Bruno song it's #2 on Billboard, with a chance of going #1 (first time since Aladdin). 

 

Hard to tell if it's bringing new subscribers (some Pixar staff said it is actually), but streaming is not only about getting new people but keeping the people already subscribed, and at bare minimim their animations is helping them to keep their 120M consumers.

 

I hate the fact they keep doing that, i found very disrespectful (especially with Pixar), but they're not treating as nothing, they're just focused in other ways of distribution, and so far all of them are very succesful, just not on theaters because like @Eric Rileysaid, seems like they don't care anymore.

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https://thequorum.com/should-the-interest-score-for-uncharted-be-higher/

 

Should the interest score for UNCHARTED be higher?

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The good news is that awareness has been on the rise. Back on January 1st, awareness was at 38%. Today it’s at 44%. That’s good enough to place it 12th among all the films currently being tracked by The Quorum. 

 

While awareness has been steadily climbing, interest has been flat. Actually, the film’s interest score has slipped from 5.4 at the beginning of the year to 5.3 today. That places it in 27th place among all titles. 

 

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