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I think Charlie is overreacting once again about the multiplier, I think final multi off of 192 OW will be ~2.2 for a total ~425 not as good as expected even before presales but an OK number.

 

also from the past years the behavior of our Asgardians can easily be compared like this:

 

Rth's numbers and insights are like Athena's (perfect calculation and very slight wavering)

EmpireCity of the old was like Artemis, correct most of the time but becomes angry when somebody insults his work but now he has become like Apollo taking things in stride while maintaining the accuracy.

And lastly Charlie is like Zeus(if the numbers or movie excites him he will sometimes forget old data to give overtly optimistic predictions but as soon as both of these things disappoint him he flips out getting more pessimistic over time)

 

saying all this as a huge PJO fan

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Just saw the movie.  I enjoyed it!  Yes the dialog could be better, it was flat at times, and there were a couple of moments that were unintentionally funny, but overall I had a good time throughout.  I like the darker elements.  

 

I think if you go into it expecting a masterpiece you'll be disappointed.  But otherwise, I don't see why people wouldn't be entertained, especially on the big screen.  I'm rooting for it to do well!

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54 minutes ago, Brainbug the Dinosaur said:

? Am i dumb for not really understanding what you mean 😅 is this a joke that the original DS had not a bad reception?

 

Great: NWH, SC

Okay: BW, DS2

Bad: Eternals 😔

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9 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

I am thinking $360-375M final for DSitMoM.

 

So, BvS legs...I think you're dead on, but the emptiness of the next 2 weekends does give me a little pause...unlimited movie subscribers have to see something, although maybe that helps the holdovers more...

 

Biggest winners for this movie's reception - probably Bad Guys, Everything Everywhere, and Sonic...

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3 minutes ago, fabiopazzo2 said:

 let's have fun with OW predictions 

 

TopGunn: 98M/111.7M 
JWD: 232,4M

Lightyear: 104.1M

Thor4: 186/212M

BP2: i really dont know 

Shazam2: 50M

Avatar2: 210/276M 

 

Why the double numbers for Thor 4 and Avatar 2?

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3 minutes ago, fabiopazzo2 said:

 let's have fun with OW predictions 

 

TopGunn: 98M/111.7M 
JWD: 232,4M

Lightyear: 104.1M

Thor4: 186/212M

BP2: i really dont know 

Shazam2: 50M

Avatar2: 210/276M 

 

 

I really like that.

 

1 minute ago, Illuminegion Confirmed said:

Great: NWH, SC

Okay: BW, DS2

Bad: Eternals 😔

 

Ah ok. Yeah thats fair. Eternals (i havent seen it yet, but also dont plan to do it) felt like the first true misfire for the MCU to me, atleast in the online discourse and judging by its critical and BO performance.

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5 hours ago, AnotherDayAnotherDollar said:

360 off 190 OW means its legs would be worse than Morbius. Would be interesting if that happened to say the least.

 

On a side note - and I may be completely misreading things and be way wrong here - but some friends and family were sharing how aghast they were that this movie was not suitable for kids. Whether we like it or not parents are used to taking the kiddies to watch Mahvel as they considered the usual PG-13 in their movies to be okay. Something like Avengers, Iron Man, Spider-Man, etc.

 

Not so much lately. Between this, Moon Knight, the more mature tone of Eternals (which included MCU's first on screen sex scene where John Snow plowed Gemma Chan), and more to come including rated R Deadpool I feel like Marvel should have Marvel Knights/Marvel MAX logo and branding for such projects, whether they are rated R or hard edge PG-13. Iger had touched on this before when he was CEO but they need to make sure and crystal clear when the branding is okay for families and when it's not. They have not done a good job with that so far and their most recent projects suggests to me that they should.

 

Disboards are also sharing that this movie is only for 10+ (or more teen+) at a minimum...since that's a big Disney fan site, that's not gonna help legs...although, neither are the posted reviews from non-Marvel superfans who thought they were getting Disney product...

 

Most folks think Marvel means Disney and Disney means kids/all ages...DC is the one you have to pause to take kids to...not Marvel.  

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1 hour ago, Krissykins said:

EmpireCity already said a few times that Disney are underestimating the Friday and that it could be $91.5m. It’s on the earlier pages. 
 

That’s why I said “if”. 

 

They always underestimate so I'll take 91.5M and more over official 90M estimate. 

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Okay, so finished all the pages...

 

One thing I'll say - Disney marketed this film perfectly.  They convinced A LOT of folks this was must see b/c of a big universe...and got the money from those folks to see it.

 

After 3 2021 films that barely or didn't make their production budgets back domestic...Dr Strange will probably come close to at least doubling his or more...that's good marketing.

 

If it was sold as what it is, it would probably have lived about $50M above last years movies for a full total...

 

So, the story of marketing - get the money any way you can as fast as you can b/c then you have it...

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1 hour ago, fabiopazzo2 said:

 let's have fun with OW predictions 

 

 

TopGunn: 106M
JWD: 201M

Lightyear: 102M

Thor4: 204M

BP2: 205M

Shazam2: 67M

Avatar2: 153M 

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