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[Flip]

11 minutes ago, JustLurking said:

The first one is misleading (iirc it was just one theater in a fairly minor chain), the second is only partially true (slam dunk released 2 weeks prior, but yes, much better competition than rest of the world alongside Suzume), and the third one feels like some minor stuff that twitter users make out much bigger than it actually is.

 

Japan just moved on. The convos trying to rationalise why are exhausting. It's Japan, they don't really care what is popular elsewhere.

 

Yeah, almost certainly I'd say.

Funnily enough Japan is the sole market where the “no cultural impact” argument against A2 proved to be true

[Firepower]

Worldwide all-time record is going down. Let's goooo.............

[MovieMan89]

12 minutes ago, Flip said:

Funnily enough Japan is the sole market where the “no cultural impact” argument against A2 proved to be true

I think it’s way less to do with Avatar and far more to do with them not caring about American movies at all anymore, especially live action. If Mario Bros can’t light the japan BO on fire, then I’d say they may as well stop releasing big American blockbusters there. 
 

And even then… that movie has such inherent deep roots in Japanese pop culture and Japanese people heavily involved in its making, that it may as well be a Japanese anime more than a Hollywood blockbuster. 

Edited December 31, 2022 by MovieMan89

[Valonqar]

11 minutes ago, XXR M37's Club Is Dead said:

 

Too early to tell. Everyone has different thoughts on how it'll play out. Final DOM somewhere between 550 and 900.

 

 

 of course, it's BOT. Flop or Biggest Eva, there's no middle.

[interiorgatordecorator]

14 minutes ago, Alex SciChannel said:

No, please see it in theaters. I beg you. The sound design and cinematography are experiences that should only be seen in on the big screen

 

if its still there by february i'll try 

Edited December 31, 2022 by interiorgatordecorator

[MovieMan89]

3 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

if its still there by february i'll try 

This brings up another point about how A2 is unlikely to lose much of any PLF until late Feb, which could be a HUGE boost to its holds. 

[Alex SciChannel]

5 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

if its still there by february i'll try 

Do it

[Flip]

39 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

I think it’s way less to do with Avatar and far more to do with them not caring about American movies at all anymore, especially live action. If Mario Bros can’t light the japan BO on fire, then I’d say they may as well stop releasing big American blockbusters there. 
 

And even then… that movie has such inherent deep roots in Japanese pop culture and Japanese people heavily involved in its making, that it may as well be a Japanese anime more than a Hollywood blockbuster. 

I do think that even if Hollywood (mainly Disney) has been on the decline in Japan over the past few years, they still care about American movies, just less. The run of Top Gun Maverick stands as proof of that. 

[XXR & Friends]

Comps so far are pointing to where most of us expected. Looking like 19-20 right now. I'm curious to see how strong (or weak) the evening hours are. 

[Flip]

Just now, Flip said:

I do think that even if Hollywood (mainly Disney) has been on the decline in Japan over the past few years, they still care about American movies, just less. The run of Top Gun Maverick stands as proof of that. 

The combination of the weak yen versus the dollar and the general decrease of sequels in Japan (e.g. Harry Potter, Jurassic World, Star Wars) meant that Avatar 2 was already going to lose at least half of Avatar's $188M dollars, but Japan just isn't that interested in the franchise, which might be due to the decline of American movies that you noticed.

[adaros]

What date for potentially crossing 2B WW? 

[MovieMan89]

I do wish Hollywood was still doing better in Japan bc it’s a massive movie market, but I also give them big props for respecting animation so much. Wish other markets would. 
 

Very curious for what How Do You Live can do there. Though I don’t buy that July release date for one second. 

Edited December 31, 2022 by MovieMan89

[Alex SciChannel]

BTW, is 2 Billy for Avatar 2 a very real prospect now? I would've been happy 1.7B-1.9B, but how is the international side of things looking fo finish? Realistically that is.

 

 

 

 

 

[XXR & Friends]

12 minutes ago, Alex SciChannel said:

BTW, is 2 Billy for Avatar 2 a very real prospect now? I would've been happy 1.7B-1.9B, but how is the international side of things looking fo finish? Realistically that is.

 

 

 

It's basically certain at this point. 

 

[IronJimbo]

12 minutes ago, Alex SciChannel said:

BTW, is 2 Billy for Avatar 2 a very real prospect now? I would've been happy 1.7B-1.9B, but how is the international side of things looking fo finish? Realistically that is.

 

Yeah, worldwide #3 is the target. We'll be at 1.4b by Monday

[IronJimbo]

1 minute ago, XXR M37's Club Is Dead said:

It's basically certain at this point.

in a different timeline covid never happened and 3 billies would have been a walk in the park

[Alex SciChannel]

5 minutes ago, XXR M37's Club Is Dead said:

 

It's basically certain at this point. 

 

This is not hyperbole right?

[Verrows]

4 minutes ago, Alex SciChannel said:

This is not hyperbole right?

No. He's being 100% serious. The torrid pace of it worldwide says it all.

[stuart360]

5 minutes ago, Alex SciChannel said:

This is not hyperbole right?

2.2bil is probably the low end

[XXR & Friends]

3 minutes ago, stuart360 said:

2.2bil is probably the low end

 

Idk about all that