WGA/SAGAFTRA Strike Discussion Thread | SAG Ratifies Contract

[MysteryMovieMogul]

10 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

It absolutely does matter. Public support for the strike gives more incentive for the studios to give in to demands rather than try to wait for the guilds to walk back theirs.

If public sentiment is as important as you claim it to be, then the WGA has made a massive mistake in refusing to respond to the leaks, or at the very least, letting their own members know what's going on.

The WGA has had the proposal since Friday, and their email to members at the time made it sound like the proposal was worth considering enough to accept it as a basis for a counterproposal. And it's been 15 hours since the leak/article, and no WGA statement. 
 

I sincerely believe it's only the writers who expected a paradigm shift who are actively trying to "refute" the leaks.

[SpiderByte]

51 minutes ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:

If public sentiment is as important as you claim it to be, then the WGA has made a massive mistake in refusing to respond to the leaks, or at the very least, letting their own members know what's going on.

The WGA has had the proposal since Friday, and their email to members at the time made it sound like the proposal was worth considering enough to accept it as a basis for a counterproposal. And it's been 15 hours since the leak/article, and no WGA statement. 
 

I sincerely believe it's only the writers who expected a paradigm shift who are actively trying to "refute" the leaks.

If it were unimportant why have both sides been having so much messaging about the strike in the damn first place? Public sentiment has always, always, always been a very important factor in labor relations history 

 

What exactly do you think a strike is

[Gopher]

You're gonna start seeing more and more articles like this every day. The AMPTP waited 100 days to negotiate on any of the WGA's proposed terms, because now that overall deals have been force majeured, the studios have saved a bit of development money and and fall TV season is upon us, they want the strike to be over ASAP, by whatever means necessary. So it doesn't matter if what the AMPTP is offering is vague enough that any studio could drive a truck through it-- they are now going to explicitly paint the writers' concerns with their dealpoints as perpetuating the hardship of others. It's disgusting and I hope people don't fall for it. The AMPTP can truly end this whenever they want to if they offer reasonable terms. 

 

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/tron-3-filming-shuts-down-150-crew-members-laid-off-strikes-1235696869/

Edited August 15, 2023 by Gopher

[keysersoze123]

As long as major social media influencers can call out the bullshit from studios, hopefully the fight is still on. There is too much to lose here for sure. Studios will bend especially when it will hit their top line. They have nothing this fall for TV and next year will have limited content for streaming and movie theaters. 

 

Can Disney release Marvels without any pick up shoots? Similar thing about other big releases from other studios. 

[filmlover]

4 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

As long as major social media influencers can call out the bullshit from studios, hopefully the fight is still on. There is too much to lose here for sure. Studios will bend especially when it will hit their top line. They have nothing this fall for TV and next year will have limited content for streaming and movie theaters. 

 

Can Disney release Marvels without any pick up shoots? Similar thing about other big releases from other studios. 

They're already fully promoting The Marvels which is less than three months away from release. Have to imagine it's pretty close to done and will release on time regardless of the strikes.

[keysersoze123]

Just now, filmlover said:

They're already fully promoting The Marvels which is less than three months away from release. Have to imagine it's pretty close to done and will release on time regardless of the strikes.

Studios will do both. Promote while still working on CGI and add any pick up shoots as required to wrap it up. After all these movies are shot on green screen and so its not difficult but for the SAG AFTRA strike. May be they anticipated and did those shoots before the strike started. Its possible. Let us see if all the movies planned for 2023 release as planned if the strikes continue. 

[filmlover]

3 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Studios will do both. Promote while still working on CGI and add any pick up shoots as required to wrap it up. After all these movies are shot on green screen and so its not difficult but for the SAG AFTRA strike. May be they anticipated and did those shoots before the strike started. Its possible. Let us see if all the movies planned for 2023 release as planned if the strikes continue. 

A lot of the fall movies already shot promo with the actors in preparation for the potential strike (that became a reality) not being entirely disruptive of the fall schedule so it's safe to assume that most movies in Q4 completed whatever actor-based work was needed. If they didn't then those movies were on already tight deadlines anyway (and/or are being sent to 2024 to fill some holes that now exist in the schedule).

[Cmasterclay]

I think because of the fact that they have already shot so many of next year's blockbusters and they are so capable of doing pre-viz and other CGI stuff, most of the big 2024 releases don't get pushed. Some will, but most make it. Where we are going to see a huge dearth of films next year is the mid-sized, Oscar type movies. Those movies are usually cast over this summer and shoot in the fall. If the strike delays writing and shooting until November, hard to see much of anything that still needs to finish writing, be cast, and shoot making it. Ridley turns it around quick usually and the Bong is already done apparently, but things like The Movie Critic by Tarantino and any other movies of this type are probably gonna push to 2025. Aka all the good stuff.

 

To be clear, it'll all be worth it as long as the unions hold strong. I maintain the terms of this strike will help dictate labor conditions across all economic sectors for the next decade, so I think we can all wait another year for a Tarantino movie.

[Squire]

28 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Studios will do both. Promote while still working on CGI and add any pick up shoots as required to wrap it up. After all these movies are shot on green screen and so its not difficult but for the SAG AFTRA strike. May be they anticipated and did those shoots before the strike started. Its possible. Let us see if all the movies planned for 2023 release as planned if the strikes continue. 

I’ve wondered about pickups and re-shoots as well. Dune Part 2 in particular could be affected since it had such a short production time for a movie of its size. I know Part 1 had Re-shoots conceived during the editing process, and Part 2 is still being edited. 

[Cappoedameron]

1 hour ago, Gopher said:

You're gonna start seeing more and more articles like this every day. The AMPTP waited 100 days to negotiate on any of the WGA's proposed terms, because now that overall deals have been force majeured, the studios have saved a bit of development money and and fall TV season is upon us, they want the strike to be over ASAP, by whatever means necessary. So it doesn't matter if what the AMPTP is offering is vague enough that any studio could drive a truck through it-- they are now going to explicitly paint the writers' concerns with their dealpoints as perpetuating the hardship of others. It's disgusting and I hope people don't fall for it. The AMPTP can truly end this whenever they want to if they offer reasonable terms. 

 

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/tron-3-filming-shuts-down-150-crew-members-laid-off-strikes-1235696869/

 

Well the Fall TV line up is doomed, what they're  trying to do is save their January line up. 

[Cap]

3 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

 

Rooted for the cougar.  Kim should have died at the end of season 1 instead of Teri.

I always remember that scene with her in the closet with the attacker. (Was it season 1 or 2?). When she has to shoot the guy.  And then Jack is like, “Good. Shoot him again.” 👏👏
 

 

[ChipDerby]

I remember my family had 24 watch parties. What on earth was going on with our country, lol

[Dementeleus]

I think you guys generally underestimate the amount of work that happens on a movie all the way up to release. 

[SchumacherFTW]

2 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

I think you guys generally underestimate the amount of work that happens on a movie all the way up to release. 

I vaguely remember one of the Transformers movies having the last vfx shots signed off on the morning of the Premiere 

[JWR]

 

 

[AMC Theaters Enjoyer]

15 minutes ago, Plain Old Tele said:

I think you guys generally underestimate the amount of work that happens on a movie all the way up to release. 

IIRC the first Sommers-Mummy movie finished mere days before the premiere. I think something similar happened with one of the Lord Of The Rings movies too.

[Cappoedameron]

Damn Bob Iger is down bad. Marvel VFX Union and now this lol woof.

 

[WittyUsername]

5 minutes ago, Cappoedameron said:

Damn Bob Iger is down bad. Marvel VFX Union and now this lol woof.

 

The funny thing is that a bunch of people were missing Iger last year on the count of Bob Chapek and David Zaslav’s blunders. 

[SpiderByte]

28 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

The funny thing is that a bunch of people were missing Iger last year on the count of Bob Chapek and David Zaslav’s blunders. 

I mean isn't this also the result of Chapek

[WittyUsername]

23 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

I mean isn't this also the result of Chapek

Point is that the big takeaway here should be that Bob Iger was never one of the “good ones.”