Weekend Numbers | Weekend Estimates | 120.5M SPIDER-MAN: ATSV | 40.6M TLM | 12.3M THE BOOGEYMAN | 10.2M GOTG III

[von Kenni]

13 minutes ago, Eric 2099 said:

It seems like concern trolling because a lot of the debates reads to me as people trying to make Little Mermaid's performance worse than it actually is. Trying to say that its legs actually aren't good because X, Y, and Z and the like and that because it didn't hit certain expectations, it's automatically a failure. When in actuality, the film is doing fine and will be fine. It all screams trying to look for something that isn't there, especially when we've never done this with any other movie until right now, for some reason. Very peculiar.

 

And sure, maybe me stating this all as concern trolling is a little harsh. But I have to be harsh as a mod. Otherwise, the message won't be clear.

 

Thank you for the clarification. I hear you, I understand how you can see things like that, and I respect your view but I have to say on my behalf that I also disagree based on the conversations seen on this thread (though not seen all of it) or similar conversations on other films before this. It's a bummer but I don't see the point of going to further discussions on this either. We can respectfully move forward and I guess try to be more conscientious of the backdrop when analyzing TLM, or at least myself, I can't speak on behalf of others of course.

[JohnnyGossamer]

1 minute ago, druv10 said:

2	(1)	The Little Mermaid	Walt Disney	$41,385,711	-57%	4,320	n/c	$9,580	$186,992,778	2
3	N	The Boogeyman	20th Century…	$12,356,486		3,205		$3,855	$12,356,486	1
4	(3)	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3	Walt Disney	$10,677,998	-49%	3,580	-360	$2,983	$323,189,452	5

Nice little increase from estimates for TLM and GotGV3. 

[Flamengo81]

46 minutes ago, 1Robert1 said:

lion king, and beauty and the best didnt made 2,9x of their openings, TLM will definetely make more than 275 mln, so i dont know how people can think it will have bad legs.

Much bigger openings so not comparable.

[Goldbricker]

1 hour ago, Flamengo81 said:

Sure. Will post here later at night.

I think I realize what numbers you‘re talking about and if I‘m right, they are from The Licensing Letter which is really not reliable data. TLL just conducts some surveys and then massively extrapolate the data. Although a lot of confidential sales data is also estimated, but that is done by big market research firms. TLL is too small to provide reliable estimates. Also companies like Hasbro and Mattel don‘t publish the exact numbers, but they report increases or underperformances in their reports and TLL‘s estimates quite often doesn’t match with them. That‘s also why nobody else shares their estimates

[Flamengo81]

1 minute ago, Goldbricker said:

I think I realize what numbers you‘re talking about and if I‘m right, they are from The Licensing Letter which is really not reliable data. TLL just conducts some surveys and then massively extrapolate the data. Although a lot of confidential sales data is also estimated, but that is done by big market research firms. TLL is too small to provide reliable estimates. Also companies like Hasbro and Mattel don‘t publish the exact numbers, but they report increases or underperformances in their reports and TLL‘s estimates quite often doesn’t match with them. That‘s also why nobody else shares their estimates

Are there any reliable numbers then? Because there is simply no "Official" relevant numbers regarding this subject.

[JD Asencio]

2 hours ago, cooldude97 said:

To shift the subject, did you know Transformers age of extinction had an A cinemascore?

actually Transformers has always had good CinemaScore ratings and had decent to very good multipliers, we'll see how ROTB fares

[cooldude97]

13 minutes ago, JD Asencio said:

actually Transformers has always had good CinemaScore ratings and had decent to very good multipliers, we'll see how ROTB fares

i think my memories are starting to fail me, surprised BB is only A- and not an A

[Goldbricker]

43 minutes ago, Flamengo81 said:

Are there any reliable numbers then? Because there is simply no "Official" relevant numbers regarding this subject.

The 2013 and 2015 Lists were shared by THR and Variety so they should count as reliable. After that, nothing really but Hasbro and Mattel highlight increases and underperformances in their quarterly or yearly reports like Suicide Squad sales upswing after the movie or Baby Yoda sales explosion etc. 

[ThomasNicole]

1 hour ago, Bob Train said:

The film is doing poorly not fine.  600m gross on 250m production budget and 140m marketing is not good. Anyone would have been laughed at for suggesting that it would make 600m before it released. Disney doesn't make these films for charity, they make them to print cash, and this one is not doing that at all. I liked the film and thought it would be a huge hit but it's obvious that it's missing the mark.

We get you feel this way the first time you said, but you just don’t need to keep beating this horse 

 

Fast X is also a flop, likely in a way worse position than TLM, you’re seeing pages of arguments about it? 
 

This constant discussions about TLM is getting tired, that’s all

[ThomasNicole]

1 hour ago, druv10 said:

2	(1)	The Little Mermaid	Walt Disney	$41,385,711	-57%	4,320	n/c	$9,580	$186,992,778	2
3	N	The Boogeyman	20th Century…	$12,356,486		3,205		$3,855	$12,356,486	1
4	(3)	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3	Walt Disney	$10,677,998	-49%	3,580	-360	$2,983	$323,189,452	5

 

 

Great Sunday hold of 18% drop for TLM and 25% for GOTG3. 

 

Weekend drop of 56.7% for TLM instead 58% with estimates and 48.7% for GOTG3 instead of 51%.

Great for Guardians, 8.5% better than Vol. 2 at the same weekend 

 

If it keeps this way, will end with +360M and 3x multi

[screambaby]

Great hold for guardians and great spidey stuck over 120.

[ando]

Nice slim -18% Sunday for TLM. 

 

Wonder if it'll drop a harsh 66% like Aladdin for Monday or gain some more ground. 

[Austin]

Edit: Oops, didnt get to the moderation post yet.

Edited June 5, 2023 by Austin

[JohnnyGossamer]

There's an early Monday number out there for AtSV... Are we allowed to reference EC as long as we don't link it? I don't remember where everything stands there...

[screambaby]

6 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

There's an early Monday number out there for AtSV... Are we allowed to reference EC as long as we don't link it? I don't remember where everything stands there...

Yup

 Just call him voldermart or  he who shall not be named

Edit hes saying 12.25 

Edited June 6, 2023 by screambaby

[VanillaSkies]

12 minutes ago, screambaby said:

Yup

 Just call him voldermart or  he who shall not be named

Edit hes saying 12.25 

Summer weekdays about to come in strong!

Wonderful time of the year for us BO followers. Let the fun begin!

[thajdikt]

Great for Guardians!

Edited June 6, 2023 by thajdikt

[Bobzaruni]

12.75M+ monday according to voldemort

[eXtacy]

Best comparison going forward for ATSV is probably Wonder Woman. Released first week of June (2017) with a 103m opening weekend. It finished with 412m

 

Jun 2	Friday	1	$38,247,254	-	-	4,165	$9,183	$38,247,254	1
Jun 3	Saturday	1	$35,253,398	-7.8%	-	4,165	$8,464	$73,500,652	2
Jun 4	Sunday	1	$29,750,819	-15.6%	-	4,165	$7,143	$103,251,471	3
Jun 5	Monday	1	$11,757,063	-60.5%	-	4,165	$2,822	$115,008,534	4
Jun 6	Tuesday	1	$14,342,175	+22%	-	4,165	$3,443	$129,350,709	5

 

First Monday was 11.75

[JustWatching]

23 minutes ago, eXtacy said:

Best comparison going forward for ATSV is probably Wonder Woman. Released first week of June (2017) with a 103m opening weekend. It finished with 412m

 

Jun 2	Friday	1	$38,247,254	-	-	4,165	$9,183	$38,247,254	1
Jun 3	Saturday	1	$35,253,398	-7.8%	-	4,165	$8,464	$73,500,652	2
Jun 4	Sunday	1	$29,750,819	-15.6%	-	4,165	$7,143	$103,251,471	3
Jun 5	Monday	1	$11,757,063	-60.5%	-	4,165	$2,822	$115,008,534	4
Jun 6	Tuesday	1	$14,342,175	+22%	-	4,165	$3,443	$129,350,709	5

 

First Monday was 11.75

Was looking at Homecoming as a comp but I like yours better.