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55 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

How do you make a "spy movie" with moderate budgets though?


You lean more into the paranoia cat and mouse game and less into the boom boom bang bang. Manchurian Candidate, The Conversation, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Notorious. 
 

You bring up shit like Red Notice and Gray Man, but the current spy show blowing up Netflix is The Diplomat. 

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I think, we still aren’t realizing a portion of the moviegoing audience left theatrical and may not ever return apart from one or two mega events (this year, it is Mario and Barbie), a shift towards larger formats more than ever, and the audience are even become more pick and choose for once mainstay theatrical genres (I mean look at the superhero movies this year apart from Across and Guardians) which was sped up by the rise of streaming being a cheaper alternative, inflation and the pandemic. Think it’s possible for admissions to increase as the years go by but I’m not sure if this new normal will be the main thing.
 

However, one good thing is that the moviegoing audience is growing more diverse and younger, if these next batch of films within the next few years hit and maybe some way for theatrical to be more affordable, I think things can even out.

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1 minute ago, Cap said:


You lean more into the paranoia cat and mouse game and less into the boom boom bang bang. Manchurian Candidate, The Conversation, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Notorious. 
 

You bring up shit like Red Notice and Gray Man, but the current spy show blowing up Netflix is The Diplomat. 

I pay Netflix because I’m an idiot. I barely use it lol. But my point is that the genre of films that don’t carry brands like Marvel, SMB, Barbie and etc is going to end up becoming Netflix bread and butter. That’s my near future dystopia prediction lol.

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The grosses of the Mission: Impossible movies range from $180M (the first from '96) to $220M (Fallout) with MI3 as the outlier for understandable reasons (6 year wait between movies, blah reception to MI2, actual Cruise Fatigue from his odd public behavior the previous year), so I guess if this hits $160M it won't be that far off the mark? I don't know, this franchise clearly has a ceiling if you ask me.

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1 minute ago, filmlover said:

The grosses of the Mission: Impossible movies range from $180M (the first from '96) to $220M (Fallout) with MI3 as the outlier for understandable reasons (6 year wait between movies, blah reception to MI2, actual Cruise Fatigue from his odd public behavior the previous year), so I guess if this hits $160M it won't be that far off the mark? I don't know, this franchise clearly has a ceiling if you ask me.


160m would be a shitty total. Plain and simple. It would only be acceptable if the last movie has been badly received and turned people off the franchise but that is clearly ant the case 

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Since I see some chatter about show holds next weekend wanted to take a look back at the discussion last wknd and how it turned out:

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FWIW:

Movie Shows Change Gross PSA
Indiana Jones 5 68,347 -31.15% $27,000,000 $395
Insidious 6 63,877   $33,000,000 $517
Joy Ride 46,097   $5,850,000 $127
Elemental 36,597 -14.92% $9,600,000 $262
Ruby Gillman 31,974 -28.67% $2,800,000 $88
Sound of Freedom 31,280   $19,000,000 $607
Spider-Verse 2 30,229 -20.12% $8,000,000 $265
No Hard Feelings 27,981 -25.94% $5,250,000 $188
Transformers 6 23,616 -21.56% $5,000,000 $212
The Little Mermaid 17,956 -27.01% $3,500,000 $195
The Flash 12,416 -56.39% $2,215,000 $178
Asteroid City 12,045 -51.42% $2,240,000 $186
Past Lives 5,026 -55.09% $1,000,000 $199
Guardians Vol. 3 4,723 -45.08% $1,000,000 $212

 

 

Showcounts sourced from @katnisscinnaplex, an incomplete but substantial coverage.

 

Ruby will get pasted, Joy Ride may have some 2 wk contract protection but it’s gone on barbieheimer wknd, and then there is a lot of 200ish stuff which can give up screens to provide some protection for Elemental/SV2/Indy. SOF may expand? The Sunday from marks suggests a great 2nd weekend imo retaining 2nd place PSA after MI and maybe even 2nd place gross if things get funky.

 

 

On 7/14/2023 at 7:01 AM, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie TC Shows Change Standard Last PSA PLF IMAX 3D
Mission: Impossible 7 3,546 100,031   86,577   13,454 4,130 0
Insidious 6 2,802 43,287 -20.22% 43,218 516.82 69 0 0
Indiana Jones 5 3,194 40,724 -40.42% 40,627 401.20 97 0 0
Sound of Freedom 2,719 36,577 16.93% 36,565 629.18 12 0 0
Elemental 2,685 35,171 -3.90% 33,547 274.13 1,624 0 1,568
Joy Ride 2,470 26,152 -32.20% 26,120 125.96 32 0 0
Spider-Verse 2 2,161 25,604 -15.30% 25,580 265.65 24 0 0
No Hard Feelings 1,696 19,455 -30.47% 19,455 193.15 0 0 0
Transformers 6 1,739 16,997 -28.03% 16,042 216.21 955 0 883
The Little Mermaid 1,329 11,623 -35.27% 11,221 205.49 402 0 385
The Miracle Club 612 8,364   8,364   0 0 0
Ruby Gillman 1,444 7,715 -75.87% 7,700 89.02 15 0 0
Asteroid City 620 6,283 -47.84% 6,259 187.03 24 0 0
Psycho-Pass 385 5,247   5,247   0 0 0
The Flash 676 4,335 -65.09% 4,306 182.49 29 0 0

Not too shabby — SV2 and (especially) elemental were indeed protected by cuts elsewhere, even as SoF did indeed expand.

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5 minutes ago, filmlover said:

The grosses of the Mission: Impossible movies range from $180M (the first from '96) to $220M (Fallout) with MI3 as the outlier for understandable reasons (6 year wait between movies, blah reception to MI2, actual Cruise Fatigue from his odd public behavior the previous year), so I guess if this hits $160M it won't be that far off the mark? I don't know, this franchise clearly has a ceiling if you ask me.

This nominal steadiness is just a sign of secular real decline. When MI10 does $190 in 2031 that’ll be pretty eh.

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We are seeing some very nice and leggy runs for TF7, Elemental or No Hard Feelings here. 

 

Elemental obviously as a stand out, but NHF clearing 50m with a 15m-Start is some nice relieve on a low scale for the Studio as well. 

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I’m realizing Ant-Man is likely staying within the top 10 this year domestically, unless I misremembering only Mario, Barbie, Across, Guardians, Mermaid have done over 200m right?

 

Dead Reckoning and Oppenheimer have the best chances outside of Barbie this summer and may not get the legs they need, this winter has a lot of potential in 2une, Wonka, Aquaman, Marvels, Hunger Games and maybe one of Migration or Wish but it’s possibly just few enough can miss for it to be a possibility.

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8 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said:

DR should still pass $200M, should play well well after the Barbieheimer drop. 

It has to jump big today for that to even be a possible reality. Like at least 19 anything under means WOM is not moving the needle at all.

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28 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

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What audience?

 

 

Astroturfing is such a clever phrase, I’ve never heard that before. Took me a second to realise lol. 
 

some of the replies have the website for the film: “buy a ticket to end child trafficking”, is that legal? How would buying a ticket do that? It’s all very bizarre. 

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