Weekend Thread | TAYLOR SWIFT $31M Estimate, KOTFM $23M

[Curiouser and Curiouser]

1 hour ago, Jonwo said:

TBH The Last Duel would have flopped even if Leo had been it instead of Matt Damon. 

 

 

I think the movie would have made way more money with Leo in it than Matt Damon. Like way more. They are both "peers" but if Matt Damon starred in Killers of the Flower Moon, how would it have opened? assuming the release was exactly the same. 

[Krissykins]

The Exorcist Believer up to $107m. Saw X near $80m, The Nun II passed $260m, A Haunting in Venice at $112m. 
 

And this weekend is Five Night’s At Freddy’s. Wonder how high it’ll go. 

[emoviefan]

1 minute ago, Curiouser and Curiouser said:

Paramount's losses are being covered by Apple. I don't know how much evidence people need to get the picture lol. This wasn't made with a theatrical business model in mind. 

This and Napleon both. As I said I think Argyle is the first Apple movie that is being pushed to be a potential hit with the GA/casuals. 

[titanic2187]

10 minutes ago, Curiouser and Curiouser said:

Paramount's losses are being covered by Apple. I don't know how much evidence people need to get the picture lol. This wasn't made with a theatrical business model in mind. 

Instead of spending 200m in 5-6 movies that may come back all shit and lose money, why not just focus and invest in one movie that you know almost certainly is gonna be great? Since either way you are burning the money anyway. 
 

probably that is what apple has in their mind. 

Edited October 22, 2023 by titanic2187

[The GOAT]

16 hours ago, ZattMurdock said:

Also, Scott Derrickson is one good dude and an excellent filmmaker:

 

Basic stuff.

I've found that the best and most optimal way to experience a theatre viewing is to have a dopamine fast and a cardio session beforehand. Really helps the clear/empty the mind and enhance the experience.  

[MovieMan89]

Yeah that’s not a good OW for KOTFM. I really thought a Leo/Scorsese movie at this point could pull double that. Unless the legs are insane, this is going to be their first film to miss the 150 adjusted mark, let alone 100. Opp really was a huge anomaly among adult fare post covid. 

[Maggie]

 

[TMP]

7 minutes ago, The GOAT said:

I've found that the best and most optimal way to experience a theatre viewing is to have a dopamine fast and a cardio session beforehand. Really helps the clear/empty the mind and enhance the experience.  

If you can squeeze an insanity session in before then you get carry-over runner’s high which can enhance even the shittiest movies. I remember enjoying jl ‘17 because my endorphins were going berserk throughout the whole thing. Best part is that BeachBody is an MLM piece of shit, so you probably should download the workout illegally lol - it’s like an easy, free W

[emoviefan]

3 minutes ago, Maggie said:

 

I feel like most of the people saying this was a bad opening for Killers have not seen it yet. Once you do you will know anybody but leo this would have done far less without him. 

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

I knew Killers of the Flower Moon wasn't going to make as much as Oppenheimer, but thought it would end up making more in total than Oppenheimer's opening weekend. Even a 3x multiplier falls short of $82.4 million.

 

Scorsese got to make the movie he wanted to make and got Apple to pay for it. They aren't completely stupid at Apple but saw the viewing figures of CODA, not even a Best Picture win could drive that many eyeballs to it. They knew they had to step their game up if they wanted to keep making movies, so they're funding awardsy lavish productions from auteurs.

[MovieMan89]

28 minutes ago, emoviefan said:

I feel like most of the people saying this was a bad opening for Killers have not seen it yet. Once you do you will know anybody but leo this would have done far less without him. 

I mean… I guess, but how much “less” than a 23 OW would we really get? Like I’m sure it would still pull 15 or so. The real test will be to see if it can have exceptional legs, in which case we can go back to saying maybe Leo was still a draw here. 

[MovieMan89]

Leo/Scorsese DOM adjusted history (using an even $12 as current ATP, though I believe it’s higher iirc) 
 

Gangs of New York - 160m

The Aviator - 197m

The Departed - 242m

Shutter Island - 195m

Wolf of Wall Street - 171m

[wildphantom]

Say what you will but the ‘Apple’ of it all does say to a certain audience ‘it’ll be on tv soon’. 
When I got back from the movie my Dad assumed it would be on Apple TV for him to see imminently. 

[CJohn]

Atrocious weekend. Disastrous for KOTFM, the American audience only wants dumb popcorn movies.

[reddevil19]

1 hour ago, emoviefan said:

Argyle is the first Apple movie that is being pushed to be a potential hit with the GA/casuals. 

Ya, good luck with that. I'd be surprised if that didn't also flop.

[ListenHunnyUrOver]

Sorry but how is $23M a testament to Leo’s power? If it opened to $30M I would say sure, but come on. 

[SchumacherFTW]

24 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Atrocious weekend. Disastrous for KOTFM, the American audience only wants dumb popcorn movies.

[Valencia]

1 hour ago, CJohn said:

Atrocious weekend. Disastrous for KOTFM, the American audience only wants dumb popcorn movies.

Why you just throwing America under the bus?

 

It debuted even less OS lol.

[Curiouser and Curiouser]

1 hour ago, ListenHunnyUrOver said:

Sorry but how is $23M a testament to Leo’s power? If it opened to $30M I would say sure, but come on. 

Ummm how much would this have made swapping him out? Never mind the fact he couldn't promote it in any meaningful way since pre-strike. I don't know how much that made a difference but my guess is it made a little bit of a difference. Possibly enough to get in the 30 million range or so? maybe. 

 

I think people have forgotten that over 20 million for an original adult drama is usually considered a great opening for that type of film. Then layer in that it's incredibly long and depressing. 

[Curiouser and Curiouser]

20 minutes ago, Valencia said:

Why you just throwing America under the bus?

 

It debuted even less OS lol.

Am I nuts or is the box office opening overseas pretty good for this movie?