Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets | July 21, 2017 | FLOP OF THE YEAR

[marveldcfox]

3 hours ago, Arlborn said:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-luc-bessons-valerian-may-determine-fate-europes-high-profile-studio-963155

 

 

 

Budget is really $200m, uh-oh.

Jesus fuck. TOooooooo much oN CGI..way too less on actors.. should have hired some big names as leads. Movie should not have costed more than 150.

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

I feel like this has like an 80% chance of flopping horrendously.

Edited January 12, 2017 by Jayhawk

[trifle]

You know, I have seen this trailer repeatedly.  The trailer I have seen that made me interested in watching a movie more was Bladerunner.  But I have seen that repeatedly too, and while I may still see it, and may still NOT see this one, that one is a groan when it comes on, since I know it by heart, while -- this trailer makes me perk up because it is just a fun music video with spacey effects.  If I end up believing the movie is the same as the trailer throughout, I'll watch it.  Unfortunately, I expect it isn't. But I will at least give it a chance by watching the trailers they release, to convince me it is.

[redfirebird2008]

13 hours ago, Arlborn said:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-luc-bessons-valerian-may-determine-fate-europes-high-profile-studio-963155

 

Budget is really $200m, uh-oh.

 

 

Just another example of the movie budget bubble. One wonders when it will go completely bust. 

[The Futurist]

15 hours ago, redfirebird2008 said:

 

 

Just another example of the movie budget bubble. One wonders when it will go completely bust. 

 

Literrally thousands of people work on these movies.

 

These images don't appear magically and if you want to stay current and compete with the market, you can't afford to look cheap.

 

Plus you need to up your game with each movie to woah people even if it s becoming increasingly difficult as we have already seen lots of spectacular things since Terminator 2.

 

 

The Fifth Element was on the Tele the other night, and it's crazy how technology has evolved in 20 years.

Fifth Element was state of the art back then, when Digital Domain was VFX house Number 2/3 with Sony Pictures Imageworks.

 

In Fifth Element you had like 10 minutes of CGI total , the big Taxi set piece ( that was before Phantom Menace as far as futuristic big cities with flying cars) at the beginning and few things here and there, some shots look dodgy today.

 

Valerian will be like an animated movie with 2 hours of CGI, with depth and complexity you could only dream of back in 1997.

 

A VFX heavy tentpole price tag these days is 150M minimum and up to a lot at Disney's.

 

300m tentpoles are a thing now.

 

So Valerian is in line with what is happening right now.

 

Problem is that visuals aren't enough  these days, we had 150m-200m flops that had state of the art VFX but audiences didn't care for them : Battleship, Jupiter Ascending, Green Lantern, Pan, ID4 R, etc

 

In 1996, you could have a box office juggernaut that was greenlit on a vfx test at ILM : Twister for example.

 

 

When Fifth Element was relased 20 years, you had 5-10 movies like this a year tops, now you have around 20-25- a year, plus the CGI toon movies that are direct competition.

 

I fear for Valerian because of that high number of EVENT movies per year we have now, it is becoming increasingly difficut to stand out from the pack.

 

Good luck to Luc though, he s putting his heart and soul into this, as I already said, he is realizing his lifelong childhood dream with this movie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 13, 2017 by The Futurist

[Arlborn]

Always nice to see The Futurist being reasonable.

[Krissykins]

Whoever greenlit this at $200m is a moron.

 

 

 

I actually think it'll make less than $200m worldwide. France isn't that big of a market.

[CJohn]

Lmao 200M budget. This is gonna be a bomb for the ages.

[Arlborn]

Any news on a new trailer @antovolk?

[Goffe]

will it make half of what Jupiter Ascending did DOM? I have my doubts.

 

 

[filmlover]

4 minutes ago, Goffe said:

will it make half of what Jupiter Ascending did DOM? I have my doubts.

 

 

Half of what Jupiter Ascending made is about $23.5M. That sure is a low bar to clear...

[MrPink]

2 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Half of what Jupiter Ascending made is about $23.5M. That sure is a low bar to clear...

 

I'm slightly impressed Jupiter Ascending made 47 million

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, MrPink said:

 

I'm slightly impressed Jupiter Ascending made 47 million

And I contributed. Two years later and I still want a refund.

[AniNate]

The budget bubble isn't going to burst. More than enough movies turn a profit with a big budget that it's worth it to the studios to take a stupid risk sometimes.

[junkshop36]

200m!! Damn

 

Well, if it does bomb, you can't say the studio didn't go down swinging lol

[JohnnyGossamer]

This one's like Cure For Wellness for me, not because it shares the same lead but because I'm always game to watch Verbinski and Besson play with a gargantuan budget. Can't wait.

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, junkshop36 said:

200m!! Damn

 

Well, if it does bomb, you can't say the studio didn't go down swinging lol

Europacorp has already given up on being a standalone studio, STX will be distributing this and all of their movies going forward.

[That One Girl]

This will be big, trust me on this .

[cookie]

17 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Europacorp has already given up on being a standalone studio, STX will be distributing this and all of their movies going forward.

 

They are?

Edited February 14, 2017 by cookie

[filmlover]

2 minutes ago, cookie said:

 

They are?

http://deadline.com/2017/01/stx-entertainment-valerian-luc-besson-europacorp-1201877916/