lab276 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 DMC had a 50% increase on its second Friday. I don't think TDKR will manage that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Everything depends on this Friday increase...... anything over 40% and beating THG will be locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 TDKR vs TA reminds me of AOTC vs SM in 2002. Just like Spiderman in 2002, The Avengers set the bar too high and people started hoping that TDKR would over take that. That is the main reason that people are feeling disappointed. It would make me laugh that $310M in 2002 was considered a disappointment. The same way many people feel that a gross of around $450M is disappointing for TDKR. $450M is a fantastic gross and people should be happy about it. The Avengers was a phenomenon. Hard to duplicate that even if the movie we are talking about is a sequel to a phenomenon like TDK. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdevidem01 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I've always wondered how big the meltdowns over Spiderman beating AOTC were back then.Someone told me on here people just cheered for both movies in the end.I guess the "backlash" AOTC got meant it had less fans to cheer it on anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravon80 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 TDKR vs TA reminds me of AOTC vs SM in 2002. Just like Spiderman in 2002, The Avengers set the bar too high and people started hoping that TDKR would over take that. That is the main reason that people are feeling disappointed. It would make me laugh that $310M in 2002 was considered a disappointment. The same way many people feel that a gross of around $450M is disappointing for TDKR. $450M is a fantastic gross and people should be happy about it. The Avengers was a phenomenon. Hard to duplicate that even if the movie we are talking about is a sequel to a phenomenon like TDK. Kind of, but the main reason we're disappointed is because we have no idea what TDKR could have done because the tragedy isn't quantifiable, but we know it had a negative impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 I've always wondered how big the meltdowns over Spiderman beating AOTC were back then.Someone told me on here people just cheered for both movies in the end.I guess the "backlash" AOTC got meant it had less fans to cheer it on anyway.The fights were epic on BOM. :lol:Obviously, I was on AOTC team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviedweeb Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 TDKR vs TA reminds me of AOTC vs SM in 2002. Just like Spiderman in 2002, The Avengers set the bar too high and people started hoping that TDKR would over take that. That is the main reason that people are feeling disappointed. It would make me laugh that $310M in 2002 was considered a disappointment. The same way many people feel that a gross of around $450M is disappointing for TDKR. $450M is a fantastic gross and people should be happy about it. The Avengers was a phenomenon. Hard to duplicate that even if the movie we are talking about is a sequel to a phenomenon like TDK.Of course $450m is a phenomenal gross. I don't think anyone doubts that, but you cannot ignore the performance of TDKRs predecessor which makes this performance disappointing. Same with AOTC, when you a sequel to a film that made over $430m.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Kind of, but the main reason we're disappointed is because we have no idea what TDKR could have done because the tragedy isn't quantifiable, but we know it had a negative impact. While there is definitely an impact, there was almost no chance that TDKR would surpass The Avengers even without the tragedy. The difference between the two would be too big for TDKR to overcome. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdevidem01 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 The fights were epic on BOM. :lol:Obviously, I was on AOTC team. Wish I could've been there then!At least star wars got its revenge with ROTS which beat any movie domestic that summer & year with a huuuge margin to spare. (though that may be because 2005 was a weak year in general) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Wish I could've been there then!At least star wars got its revenge with ROTS which beat any movie domestic that summer & year with a huuuge margin to spare. (though that may be because 2005 was a weak year in general)I'd say that if it was a stronger year, it would all be in proportion, but bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Enough with this "it's still a good gross" bullshit. Yes it might be a good gross but you can't help be a little disappointed considering the potential for more is clearly there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Of course $450m is a phenomenal gross. I don't think anyone doubts that, but you cannot ignore the performance of TDKRs predecessor which makes this performance disappointing. Same with AOTC, when you a sequel to a film that made over $430m....But again, Batman franchise may have peaked with TDK. With TDKR a few notches lower than TDK in quality for the general audiences, a lower gross for TDKR should have been anticipated even without the tragedy. Part of the problem was that the pre-sales were hyped way too much and that made people think that TDKR would have had a bigger gross than TDK and may be get closer to TA.I knew those notions were false once we got the midnight number.. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Not only is it affecting the week day grosses, it is affecting the entire run. Percentage wise they might be somewhat ordinary, but the grosses are all deflated and, unfortunately, that trend will probably continue.So that is the reception the film is getting not the shooting. If the wom was better, then the weekend drop would be about 40-45%. You can't blame this sub-par run just on the shooting, there are now a myriad of mitigating circumstances that will keep it from making more than about 425. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 So that is the reception the film is getting not the shooting. If the wom was better, then the weekend drop would be about 40-45%. You can't blame this sub-par run just on the shooting, there are now a myriad of mitigating circumstances that will keep it from making more than about 425. You called that right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killimano3 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 TDKR never had a shot of beating TDK. People who thought it did were kidding themselves 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 TDKR never had a shot of beating TDK. People who thought it did were kidding themselvesI believed that also. But the pre-sales hype was so high that it may have given some people false hopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 TDKR never had a shot of beating TDK. People who thought it did were kidding themselvesCompletely agree. I was predicting 450ish before the tragedy. With a $20m bigger opening, it would have had a pretty good shot to reach my prediction. I think it'll be lucky to hit 425 at the rate it's going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatebox Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 TDKR never had a shot of beating TDK. People who thought it did were kidding themselvesHaving seen the movie, I don't think it would have even without the shooting. The movie is too heavy for families. But a month ago no-one knew that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Having seen the movie, I don't think it would have even without the shooting. The movie is too heavy for families. But a month ago no-one knew that.Given the runtime and tone of the marketing material, I'd say we had a pretty good idea. It's just that some folks here were in denial about that aspect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Having seen the movie, I don't think it would have even without the shooting. The movie is too heavy for families. But a month ago no-one knew that.Baumer and several others had it around $460M prior to its release also. Some people probably did think that TDKR would not approach TDK's gross even prior to the release. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
