redfirebird2008 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Thats your loss if u feel that wayNot really. I dislike slow motion for the sake of slow motion. The Matrix started that trend and it has been run into the ground by the film industry since then. Speaking of which, Inception is an example of acceptable slow motion. It was used only to help tell the story by showing the difference between "real" time and "dream" time. It wasn't used in action sequences for the hell of it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Not really. I dislike slow motion for the sake of slow motion. The Matrix started that trend and it has been run into the ground by the film industry since then. Speaking of which, Inception is an example of acceptable slow motion. It was used only to help tell the story by showing the difference between "real" time and "dream" time. It wasn't used in action sequences for the hell of it.This is the first time I've ever seen someone complain about the slow mo in The Matrix.A perfect example of a shitload of pointless slow motion would be something like 300. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I was five when The Matrix came out, so obviously I didn't see it in theatres. In fact I didn't see it in full till this year I think, although I had seen bits of it before then. I recognise that it's a groundbreaking movie in many ways, in particular visual effects, I like that it was shot in Sydney and overall it's pretty fun.On the other hand, I was 17 when Inception came out, and even though it's not groundbreaking like The Matrix is, it feels more like "my" film, and that gives it an advantage for me in this poll. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Naturally people are going to gravitate towards films they can relate to in their prime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I was five when The Matrix came out, so obviously I didn't see it in theatres. In fact I didn't see it in full till this year I think, although I had seen bits of it before then. I recognise that it's a groundbreaking movie in many ways, in particular visual effects, I like that it was shot in Sydney and overall it's pretty fun.On the other hand, I was 17 when Inception came out, and even though it's not groundbreaking like The Matrix is, it feels more like "my" film, and that gives it an advantage for me in this poll.That's one of the other things that annoyed me about the sequels. They were pretty much all on sound stages whereas in The Matrix it was filmed around the CBD. I have to give it to The Matrix as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) I was five when The Matrix came out, so obviously I didn't see it in theatres. In fact I didn't see it in full till this year I think, although I had seen bits of it before then. I recognise that it's a groundbreaking movie in many ways, in particular visual effects, I like that it was shot in Sydney and overall it's pretty fun. On the other hand, I was 17 when Inception came out, and even though it's not groundbreaking like The Matrix is, it feels more like "my" film, and that gives it an advantage for me in this poll. I was 16 when Inception came out. I feel exactly the same. Edited September 11, 2012 by CJohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommycruise Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Although I like the Matrix (A-) my grade goes to inception although after my 6th viewing it fell from an A+ to an A. The problem with the Matrix is that I just never feel any emotional connection to the characters, the film spends a lot of time with its own philosophy and kung-fu fighting and hardly any time on actual character development. Most of the characters in the film are actually caricatures anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Although I like the Matrix (A-) my grade goes to inception although after my 6th viewing it fell from an A+ to an A. The problem with the Matrix is that I just never feel any emotional connection to the characters, the film spends a lot of time with its own philosophy and kung-fu fighting and hardly any time on actual character development. Most of the characters in the film are actually caricatures anyway. Yawn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Although I like the Matrix (A-) my grade goes to inception although after my 6th viewing it fell from an A+ to an A. The problem with the Matrix is that I just never feel any emotional connection to the characters, the film spends a lot of time with its own philosophy and kung-fu fighting and hardly any time on actual character development. Most of the characters in the film are actually caricatures anyway.I find this post laughable. Did u watch the Zuckers version of The Matrix? Cuz the one I saw is nothing like what u describe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Matrix > Inception but both are in my top 100.I think Matrix did have a big influence on the Hollywood blockbuster but it wasn't for the better. Interestingly enough, the sequels were far more maligned yet they represent what the industry took away from the franchise- the same action with none of the dares of the original film. As for 'legacy' Inception was technically the bigger film but it's also 11 years younger. It's a movie a lot of people love but we don't know how it's held up quite yet. Though I think Nolan's approach to his films in general (between Inception and the DK trilogy) will have just as big an influence on Hollywood as Matrix did. You can already kind of see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) Matrix > Inception but both are in my top 100.I think Matrix did have a big influence on the Hollywood blockbuster but it wasn't for the better. Interestingly enough, the sequels were far more maligned yet they represent what the industry took away from the franchise- the same action with none of the dares of the original film.As for 'legacy' Inception was technically the bigger film but it's also 11 years younger. It's a movie a lot of people love but we don't know how it's held up quite yet. Though I think Nolan's approach to his films in general (between Inception and the DK trilogy) will have just as big an influence on Hollywood as Matrix did. You can already kind of see it.The Matrix is like the only movie ever made where its groundbreaking technical and visual wizardry is matched only by its originality and storytelling. It has also become a part of pop culture and is one of the most quotable movies ever. I do think the sequels may have tainted The Matrix for some, but it doesn't take away anything from the first if you don't let them. I like to think of the sequels as just mere fun fan fodder for people that just couldn't get enough of the first movie. Inception will probably age modestly(even though I think its a turd), but I highly doubt its gonna become an iconic classic like The Matrix. Its a relatively small and contained 007ish story whereas The Matrix is vast and topped off with its grand themes and philosophy. Inception's technical wizardry also pales in comparison and even borrows from The Matrix itself. Edited September 11, 2012 by Shpongle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webslinger Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 This one is a major toughie, but I'll take Inception by a hair. Christopher Nolan's aesthetic is a bit more pleasing to me than that of the Wachowskis, and I don't have to watch the movie with the knowledge that sequels are going to take the story in a disappointing direction afterward.That said, The Matrix is still pretty fantastic. Although its then cutting-edge appearance looks very dated thirteen years later, it still moves at a breakneck speed, probes the mind with intriguing concepts, and has some show-stopping setpieces that are at least on par with those of Inception, if not a cut above based on the techniques in use at the time. It also doesn't hurt that it was one of the first R-rated movies I was allowed to see, and established itself as one of my favorite movies when I was in middle school. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Inception: B+ Matrix: A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The older is always the better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 I voted Inception. However, if there was no Matrix, there probably wouldn't be an Inception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The older is always the better.Not necessarily true in all cases but in this case it is. Matrix is just tad bit better in every department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 This is like comparing Titanic to Pearl Harbour. The Matrix all the way. Seriously, it just owns Inception in literrally every way I can think of: concept, pace, characters, emotion, action, visual effects... really?! Inception for me, way better executed. Inception A Matrix B+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Well, Inception easily beats The Matrix emotion-wise. The Matrix has a lot of fantastic philosophical ideas, but really no emotional content (it isn't necessary).Inception has some believably emotional bits in it (phone call to the kids, the ending) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 Well, Inception easily beats The Matrix emotion-wise. The Matrix has a lot of fantastic philosophical ideas, but really no emotional content (it isn't necessary).Inception has some believably emotional bits in it (phone call to the kids, the ending)And that's why Inception trumps Matrix so easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 (edited) The older is always the better.I hate this type of thought, and It's the majority here and everywhere Edited September 11, 2012 by Goffeweenie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...