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Taylor Box Office Gold

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After last week's record breaking PTA for The Master this expansion is kind of disappointing.

Eh, it's not that surprising. PTA's fanbase is passionate but small. His biggest weekend is $5.7 million for Magnolia in 1,034 theaters.Plus they expanded it really fast, which still seems odd to me.
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Deep Wang Global Phenomenon

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Combine the two films and you have a good Dredd film.What 1995 did right:MegaCity One looked more like the comics to me.They did a better job of establishing the Judge system.Lighter tone...more of the satire from the comics ('You could have gone out the window'. '30 floors Dredd?' 'Yes...but it would have been LEGAL).Costume design of the general public (the block warriors in the opening sequence could have come straight from the comics).Over the top but much more interesting Lawmaster Bike.What 2012 did right:Karl UrbanJudge uniforms and equipment looked cool.Actress playing Anderson was cute. :)No 'making copies' guy.The new film is just another example of the recent trend to make things TOO dark and serious IMO. That's not Dredd. My favorite 'short story' with him is where he's in a diner's bathroom...gets interrupted while on the john by a robbery....bursts out to dispatch the perps with violent efficiency...and then mumbles something about having to finish his 'paperwork' while stumbling back to the bathroom (who knew that Dredd even needed to wipe!).These filmmakers missed the point by just turning him into a violent cop without the irony.I'm going to go fire up my Dredd pinball machine before I get depressed. :)

I think the satire route is just naturally harder to make. If everyone on board doesn't "get it," then it won't work. In this case, I am happy they went the straight route, it works for this movie, and it works very well.
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Combine the two films and you have a good Dredd film.What 1995 did right:MegaCity One looked more like the comics to me.They did a better job of establishing the Judge system.Lighter tone...more of the satire from the comics ('You could have gone out the window'. '30 floors Dredd?' 'Yes...but it would have been LEGAL).Costume design of the general public (the block warriors in the opening sequence could have come straight from the comics).Over the top but much more interesting Lawmaster Bike.

I thought all of these things either looked terrible or they were poorly executed. The city was bad CGI; the bike looked like it was made entirely of plastic. That movie failed on every possible level except unintentional hilarity.
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You can't expect to have that high of a PTA in 800 theaters. We all knew it'll hit the arthouse crowd and fizz out.

I kinda expected that with 800 theaters there would still be enough of an arthouse crowd in the major cities to sustain its expansion better than this.
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The Master looks like it won't even do $20m, at least not until the Oscar-rerelease. I was hoping for $35m or so.

Duhh. I said this last week when everyone was creaming their panties over LA/NY PTA. That shit means nothing. It's just that prices go up every year so it's easy to break the record in limited. Especially at those pricey theaters.
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Adm56 Sleeper Hit

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I thought all of these things either looked terrible or they were poorly executed. The city was bad CGI; the bike looked like it was made entirely of plastic. That movie failed on every possible level except unintentional hilarity.

I was just going to say 'your opinion is wrong' but may I ask if you saw it in 1995? It didn't look all that dated at the time.In any case my point is that the Judge Dredd comics have always been a bit of a dark comedy IMO but the new movie took itself way too seriously. It had very little world building, and captured very little of what makes Dredd Dredd (Which I believe is being a parody of what law enforcement taken to a ridiculous extreme might be like). One scene as they enter the block tries to capture the vibe of absurd punishment for a minor crime in the new film but it's not as gleefully absurd as blowing up a car due to parking tickets in the first film.Dredd might as well have been a generic future super cop in a funny helmet. You could have used the same plot for Robocop (just replace Slo Mo for Nuke). But I'm already seeing that I'm unlikely to meet anyone here who has actually read the early comics so suppose I'll keep 'losing' this argument. But that's okay...I don't require that anyone do the reading. :) Edited by Adm56
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