Fullbuster Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 10 hours ago, TalismanRing said: I'd say the big mark is $900m WW. It only has Japan left to open and the yen is down 25% from 2012. Openers: Skyfall vs Spectre China: $34.5m (full 7 day - no w/e total available) v $48m Australia: $13.2m v $8.7m NZ: $1.7m v $1.3m SK: $5.9m v $8.2m Comparative Skyfall v Spectre totals after 2nd & 3rd w/e UK: $114.5m vs $121m Germany: $43.45m v $38.7m Norway: $10.1m v $7.4m Sweden: $11.2m v $9.5m Denmark: $9.98m v $10.5m Netherlands: $12.75m v $11.8m Finland: $5.28m v $5.3m Russia: $16.67m v $10.7m Poland: $5.5m v $6.5m Italy: $12m v $10mSpain: $9.27m v$5.6m Brazil: $8.1m v $5.3m Portugal: $1.76m v $1.7m Mexico: $5.8m v $8.3m 5 minutes ago, peludo said: According my data, using today ER's and not applying inflation, Skyfall would have done today about $663m OS. Just for reference, the markets which did more than $10m for Skyfall would be like this: Australia: $50.0m => today would be 34.0 Belgium: 11.2 => 9.4 Brazil: 14 => 7.9 China: 59.2 => 58.3 Denmark: 15.8 => 13.1 France: 60.8 => 49.9 Germany: 85.3 => 70.2 India: 10.9 => 9.0 Italy: 17.1 => 14.2 Japan: 32.5 => 23.5 Netherlands: 25.1 => 20.7 Norway: 13.8 => 9.1 Poland: 10.1 => 8.1 Russia: 25.2 => 11.8 SK: 16.1 => 14.9 Spain: 13.8 => 11.4 Sweden: 17.9 => 13.7 UK: 161.2 => 152.8 I want to clarify that this is an approximation taking an average ER in 2012 during the release months for each market. But I think it is quite close to reality. great job guys :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picores Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 So Spectre is selling on par or even more tickets than Skyfall...interesting. Let's remember that Skyfall was a MONSTER. A near perfect storm. Domestic may be underwhelming cause the loss of tickets is evident, but OS is making a killing. Just like Skyfall. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 14 minutes ago, peludo said: According my data, using today ER's and not applying inflation, Skyfall would have done today about $663m OS. Just for reference, the markets which did more than $10m for Skyfall would be like this: Australia: $50.0m => today would be 34.0 Belgium: 11.2 => 9.4 Brazil: 14 => 7.9 China: 59.2 => 58.3 Denmark: 15.8 => 13.1 France: 60.8 => 49.9 Germany: 85.3 => 70.2 India: 10.9 => 9.0 Italy: 17.1 => 14.2 Japan: 32.5 => 23.5 Netherlands: 25.1 => 20.7 Norway: 13.8 => 9.1 Poland: 10.1 => 8.1 Russia: 25.2 => 11.8 SK: 16.1 => 14.9 Spain: 13.8 => 11.4 Sweden: 17.9 => 13.7 UK: 161.2 => 152.8 I want to clarify that this is an approximation taking an average ER in 2012 during the release months for each market. But I think it is quite close to reality. Thanks so much! Love your detailed analysis. Very very helpful. So I assume this means Ice Age 4 which was released the same year would have made 600m OS by today's ER instead of 715m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) 34 minutes ago, MinaTakla said: Thanks so much! Love your detailed analysis. Very very helpful. So I assume this means Ice Age 4 which was released the same year would have made 600m OS by today's ER instead of 715m? Not even close. About $563m. Anyway, since this is just the Spectre thread, we can talk about other films in the thread which already exist about ER matter: http://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/18043-adjusting-exchange-rates/ Edited November 16, 2015 by peludo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgess Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 12 hours ago, TalismanRing said: I'd say the big mark is $900m WW. It only has Japan left to open and the yen is down 25% from 2012. Openers: Skyfall vs Spectre China: $34.5m (full 7 day - no w/e total available) v $48m Australia: $13.2m v $8.7m NZ: $1.7m v $1.3m SK: $5.9m v $8.2m Comparative Skyfall v Spectre totals after 2nd & 3rd w/e UK: $114.5m vs $121m Germany: $43.45m v $38.7m Norway: $10.1m v $7.4m Sweden: $11.2m v $9.5m Denmark: $9.98m v $10.5m Netherlands: $12.75m v $11.8m Finland: $5.28m v $5.3m Russia: $16.67m v $10.7m Poland: $5.5m v $6.5m Italy: $12m v $10mSpain: $9.27m v$5.6m Brazil: $8.1m v $5.3m Portugal: $1.76m v $1.7m Mexico: $5.8m v $8.3m There's still Japan, India and South Africa. Point taken, though. They're not huge markets for Bond (at least Japan isn't) but they could add $40-$50M combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Actuals via BOM Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $128,981,285 23.8% + Foreign: $413,847,320 76.2% = Worldwide: $542,828,605 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Spectre pretty much loses its large format screens tomorrow in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 2 minutes ago, DeeCee said: Spectre pretty much loses its large format screens tomorrow in Australia. Why did they wait so long to release it in Australia so it only had one week from MJ2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mepal1 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 2 minutes ago, DeeCee said: Spectre pretty much loses its large format screens tomorrow in Australia. Why?....................the film SP is doing so well there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 27 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: Why did they wait so long to release it in Australia so it only had one week from MJ2? 27 minutes ago, mepal1 said: Why?....................the film SP is doing so well there! MJ2 It was a very strange release date. You can look at this theatre chain and just switch between today and tomorrow. https://www.eventcinemas.com.au/Cinema/George-Street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgess Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 http://www.lefigaro.fr/cinema/2015/11/19/03002-20151119ARTFIG00014--spectre-james-bond-fracasse-le-box-office-malgre-les-attentats.php TRANSLATION TAKEN FROM MI6-HQ.COM. POSTED BY USER 'GUSTAV_GRAVES' Box Office News France:The attacks that took place in Paris last Friday and the closure of many cinemas over the weekend did not prevent the 24th episode of 007 to succeed the best start in 2015 in its first week of release in France, with more than 2 million spectators.When everything goes wrong, the only one to turn Bond remains. James Bond. According to the ranking published today by CBO Box Office, SPECTRE, the new movie of secret agent in the service of Her Majesty had the fastest start of 2015 with 2.2 million viewers in its first week, despite the attacks that took place in Paris last Friday.The 24th installment of the adventures of the famous British spy (played by Daniel Craig), released on the holiday of November 11, was attended by 2,203,549 viewers in France to 902 screens, even as the Parisian cinemas had closed their rooms in the aftermath of Saturday attacks in Paris.James Bond is also stronger than the Minions. SPECTRE and beats the record held so far this year by The Minions, which drew 2,180,641 viewers in its first week of operation.It's also the best start in France for a James Bond film. The previous James Bond, Skyfall, had collected 1,839,220 viewers in its entire first week in October 2012. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Spectre opens well in India. OW should be around $5M. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asyulus Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Id say $900m WW is good target for this. ($190m + $710m) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgess Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I think $750M OS is doable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picores Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Yeah 900m should be the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattW Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) I'm thinking tomorrow's estimate will come in around $515m OS (~670 ww). And to me it looks just as likely to end up under $900m as it does over Edited November 22, 2015 by IMojammer wording Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenterKane Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 3 hours ago, IMojammer said: I'm thinking tomorrow's estimate will come in around $515m OS (~670 ww). And to me it looks just as likely to end up under $900m as it does over 515m OS??? dont you think is too low? I know that is facing Mockingjay in may countries, but 102 million in all week is way low after a weekend of 152.6mdd. I Say $535 million overseas. (690 WW). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 only 670m worldwide. Starting to think 900m is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFanaticGuy34 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) 12 minutes ago, John Marston said: only 670m worldwide. Starting to think 900m is dead. Don't get too overly worried and lower the chances.... Edited November 22, 2015 by MrFanaticGuy34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Approx $60m last w/e came from China, SK and HK and all are dropping around 75%. So maybe $15m w/e from those. A 50% avg drop from the rest would be $46m (early #s look to be UK - 50%, Germany -45%, Russia, -65%). India is opening to $5m. That would be a $66m w/e. Around $45 weekdays would bring it to $110m for the week. My guess - O/S @ $525m Edit: Well that was a waste of time figuring SPECTRE: $524.1M Overseas Total / $677.8M Global Total #Spectre — BoxOffice (@BoxOffice) November 22, 2015 Edited November 22, 2015 by TalismanRing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...