Halba Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I think it will be either that or Boyhood. yep 2 horse race. selma's likely sizeable box office gross could tip it in selma's direction. boyhood has an "indie" size gross only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloneWars Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 yep 2 horse race. selma's likely sizeable box office gross could tip it in selma's direction. boyhood has an "indie" size gross only. Doesn't matter. Boyhood got a summer release just like The Hurt Locker and Crash. Both of those had pretty low grosses, especially Hurt Locker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Doesn't matter. Boyhood got a summer release just like The Hurt Locker and Crash. Both of those had pretty low grosses, especially Hurt Locker. Hurt Locker had weak competition from an Academy perspective (Avatar was its strongest and we all know the Academy just doesn't award sci-fi). Meanwhile, Brokeback had to fight with some still present homophobia back during its release that I will always believe is the sole reason Crash was able to beat it. Selma on the other hand has everything going for it. It is a critical darling and probably soon to be audience darling, based on a true story of an important and very well known historical figure working towards a cause that virtually no one would publicly disagree with in 2015. It is far stronger competition to Boyhood than Avatar or even Brokeback were to their respective winners. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Hurt Locker had weak competition from an Academy perspective (Avatar was its strongest and we all know the Academy just doesn't award sci-fi). Meanwhile, Brokeback had to fight with some still present homophobia back during its release that I will always believe is the sole reason Crash was able to beat it. Selma on the other hand has everything going for it. It is a critical darling and probably soon to be audience darling, based on a true story of an important and very well known historical figure working towards a cause that virtually no one would publicly disagree with in 2015. It is far stronger competition to Boyhood than Avatar or even Brokeback were to their respective winners. Boyhood is also a far stronger movie than either of those. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeFangrl Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) Hurt Locker had weak competition from an Academy perspective (Avatar was its strongest and we all know the Academy just doesn't award sci-fi). Meanwhile, Brokeback had to fight with some still present homophobia back during its release that I will always believe is the sole reason Crash was able to beat it. Selma on the other hand has everything going for it. It is a critical darling and probably soon to be audience darling, based on a true story of an important and very well known historical figure working towards a cause that virtually no one would publicly disagree with in 2015. It is far stronger competition to Boyhood than Avatar or even Brokeback were to their respective winners. Agreed. Being the type of movie Boyhood is, I think it had to have made more money, with Coltrane getting more Best Actor notices, for there to be such certainty it would win Best Picture at this stage. The Hurt Locker did win with its low gross, but it was about the War in Iraq, and what did it have to beat: blue alien sci-fi, Tarantino gore, Sandra Bullock in a Hallmark movie, George Clooney firing people? I doubt Hurt Locker ever could've won against a King's Speech or Argo. It's not like the best-reviewed movie always wins Best Picture...Selma will probably be the second best in reviews among all the Best Picture nominees by RT/Metacritic standards and that's been more than good enough to win BP in the past. Unbroken is securing its place in the Best Picture lineup with the strong box office start. LOL if it pulls a Gladiator and wins BP...AMPAS would get it from both sides, causing Twitter outages for sure. Edited December 26, 2014 by BoxOfficeChica 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Boyhood is also a far stronger movie than either of those. LOL. In what world beside the one that exists on the internet is Boyhood a better film than the Hurt Locker, which is a masterclass of direction, intensity, cultural relevance, and acting? Crash, obviously, but Hurt Locker, nopeee man nope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Hurt Locker had weak competition from an Academy perspective (Avatar was its strongest and we all know the Academy just doesn't award sci-fi). Meanwhile, Brokeback had to fight with some still present homophobia back during its release that I will always believe is the sole reason Crash was able to beat it. Selma on the other hand has everything going for it. It is a critical darling and probably soon to be audience darling, based on a true story of an important and very well known historical figure working towards a cause that virtually no one would publicly disagree with in 2015. It is far stronger competition to Boyhood than Avatar or even Brokeback were to their respective winners. Yep, only reason Crash won was because of the homophobia in the academy. Some voters refused to even watch Brokeback Mountain. It was never a fair fight. As for this year, atm I'm going for Boyhood. That might well change given Selma's upcoming release but right now I don't know for sure, so I'm playing it safe and saying Boyhood will get it. Though I have no doubt Selma will do well, well-received so far and it will look good for them if they give an MLK movie the award. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 LOL. In what world beside the one that exists on the internet is Boyhood a better film than the Hurt Locker, which is a masterclass of direction, intensity, cultural relevance, and acting? Crash, obviously, but Hurt Locker, nopeee man nope. In the world that Boyhood is the best reviewed movie of all time? Better reviews than Citizen Kane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 In the world that Boyhood is the best reviewed movie of all time? Better reviews than Citizen Kane. Reviews don't mean that Boyhood's a BETTER movie than Hurt Locker at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Opinions, assholes, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) I still think Boyhood's uniquenes will prevail in the end. Edited December 28, 2014 by The Futurist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 In the world that Boyhood is the best reviewed movie of all time? Better reviews than Citizen Kane. Top RT score is Toy Story 2, doesn't make it the best movie of all time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halba Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) are people seriously comparing boyhood a family drama to hurt locker an action war drama??? its not worth comparing movies between genres at all. Edited December 28, 2014 by Halba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloneWars Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I thought the Hurt Locker was okay, but when it comes to other war films, I think there are stronger choices (not exactly about Iraq though). Boyhood is far more unique. There are plenty of war films, but something like Boyhood is pretty rare. Anyway, I feel 2009 was pretty weak for BP contenders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Gittes Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 THL was (and remains) pretty rare as a great film about modern warfare in general and Iraq specifically. Boyhood similarly stands out among coming-of-age movies, of which there are approximately a shitton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripe Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Nine nominees BOYHOOD - LOCKED BIRDMAN - LOCKED SELMA - LOCKED THE IMITATION GAME - LOCKED. STRONG BO THE THEORY OF EVERYTHING - STRONG CANDIDATE GRAND BUDAPEST HOTEL - STRONG CANDIDATE WHIPLASH - CANDIDATE WITH WEAK POINTS. LOOSING HEAT UNBROKEN - CANDIDATE WITH WEAK POINTS. GAINING HEAT INTO THE WOODS - CANDIDATE WITH WEAK POINTS. GAINING HEAT Could surprise GONE GIRL - FADING. BO WISE, OTHER FILMS ARE ECLIPSING IT. FOXCATCHER - FADING. MEH RUN NIGHTCRAWLER - SURGING. IT'S STILL IN THE CONVERSATION AFTER 2 MONTHS. CRITICS SUPPORT AMERICAN SNIPER - SURGING. GORGEOUS LIMITED OPENING. LAST CONTENDER 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeFangrl Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 So the Deadline article on Selma's "inaccuracies" is surrounded by ads for The Imitation Game. Ava DuVernay was a publicist before she went into directing, so I think Selma will be able to withstand the controversy for now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I don't see why people are suddenly ruling Gone Girl out of BP. I think it would get in with as few as 7 noms. It is likely to be the highest grosser of any of the contenders, reviews were strong, and Fincher is relatively well liked with the Academy these days. He may not get in the 5 slot director category (my fingers are crossed for Anderson knocking him out), but unless BP noms are only 5 or 6 this year the movie should make it for BP. After all it's near locked for an Actress, Screenplay, Cinematography, and Editing nom. That's 4 huge categories to get nominated in and yet get no BP one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloneWars Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Does anyone else think we may end up with 7 nominees this year until of the usual 9? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think 8 right now. Birdman, Boyhood, Grand Budapest, Gone Girl, Imitation Game, Selma, The Theory of Everything, Whiplash. Maybe 9 if Unbroken really does play better to the academy than critics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
