Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[hw64]

Yeah, I understand a certain amount of sticking by your model, but this is just silly.

 

The methodology of grouping films by studio is seriously flawed. In terms of scope, and indeed content, Avatar 2 bears pretty much no resemblance to any of the other post-pandemic films released by 20th Century, only one of which even matches the loosest possible description of Avatar 2 as being a mass-market blockbuster. Does the success (or failure) of movies like The Last Duel, West Side Story or The King's Man really have any bearing whatsoever on the success of Avatar 2?

 

There are many, many other factors that are far better indicators of box office success or failure than a movie's financing studio, which is frankly almost entirely irrelevant insofar as it doesn't influence the truly relevant factors that determine a movie's success (IP, cast, genre, plot, target audience, budget, film quality etc).

Edited March 17, 2022 by hw64

[tenken]

8 hours ago, ZeeSoh said:

You mean an image? When typing a reply you can click on the "Other Media" dropdown option on the lower right of the reply box. Then select "Insert Image from URL". Copy paste the image url into the pop up box and the image should be embedded into the post. 

 

I meant tweets or YouTube videos. When I paste the embed code it only shows the code and not the tweet or YouTube video.

[ZeeSoh]

17 minutes ago, tenken said:

 

I meant tweets or YouTube videos. When I paste the embed code it only shows the code and not the tweet or YouTube video.

For tweets if you are using the direct link to the tweet then you can copy paste it in the reply box while typing and it should automatically embed the tweet. However if you are using the longer embed code then you cannot directly paste that in your reply. For that you need to click on “source” at top left of reply box and paste the embed code in there and then the tweet should show up. 
 

For youtube, I just tried using both the mobile website link as well as link obtained via the youtube app (share -> copy link) and directly pasted the link in the reply box and it embedded automatically. For this you do not need to go into the “Source” function or the “Link” function at the top of the reply box

[tenken]

16 hours ago, ZeeSoh said:

For tweets if you are using the direct link to the tweet then you can copy paste it in the reply box while typing and it should automatically embed the tweet. However if you are using the longer embed code then you cannot directly paste that in your reply. For that you need to click on “source” at top left of reply box and paste the embed code in there and then the tweet should show up. 
 

For youtube, I just tried using both the mobile website link as well as link obtained via the youtube app (share -> copy link) and directly pasted the link in the reply box and it embedded automatically. For this you do not need to go into the “Source” function or the “Link” function at the top of the reply box

 

thanks, I did not notice source button before.

[Valonqar]

Sounds legit thought anyone could write a preview like that. It doesn't commit the leaker to proving a plot point and it's expected that SFX will be amazing. But nevertheless, 4chan has decent track record with leaks. If you know how to filter BS on /tv/ and reddit, you can get good leaks. 

[XXR vs XXR]

12 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

Edit

 

 

All sounds believable enough. 

[ZeeSoh]

@interiorgatordecorator please put anything not officially released under spoiler tags. Some of the content you posted contained plot spoilers

[interiorgatordecorator]

30 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

@interiorgatordecorator please put anything not officially released under spoiler tags. Some of the content you posted contained plot spoilers

 

will do

Spoiler

didn't know how to

 

Heres the guy who claims that the 20 min preview, which we know exists, was shown to a very select few at SXSW (possibly contains spoilers for the first 15-20 min if true):

https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/165203332/

 

Most interesting claim is that the 3D version doesn't exist yet (still rendering), so the "mind-blowing" footage excecs have seen and commented on is only the 2D cut

 

 

 

 

Edited March 18, 2022 by interiorgatordecorator

[Valonqar]

Yes that's pretty specific and unusual thing to BS so I'd say this is real. No red flags.

 

Typical fleak would have Arnie do some really bad fan service that anyone who knows Cameron work should know he would never put in the movie. 

Edited March 18, 2022 by Valonqar

[Deuce66]

The Cameron pattern, will it repeat??

 

Titanic (1997) : w/w gross $2,201,647,627 took over #1 w/w over Jurassic Park (1993) $1,099,428,303 an increase of 100.25% !!! this is one record that will stand a long time perhaps forever. #3 from the pre-97's is The Lion King (1994) $1,063,611,805.

 

Avatar (2009): w/w $2,847,379,794 takes over #1 from Titanic with an increase of 29.3% - again very impressive. 

 

the other issue is that both movies didn't explode out of the gate, they had tremendous legs.

 

Titanic domestic run (weekly #'s) - 10 weeks

 

Dec 19-25:  $52,969,336 - 2,711 theaters
Dec 26-Jan 1: 1998: $71,183,357  +34.4%
Jan 2-8: $45,012,810    -36.8%
Jan 9-15: $37,568,867    -16.5%
Jan 16-22: $42,626,796    +13.5%
Jan 23-29: $32,831,865    -23%
Jan 30-Feb 5: $32,134,797    -2.1% 
Feb 6-12: $29,066,469    -9.5%
Feb 13-19: $38,131,241    +31.2%
Feb 20-26: $25,825,294    -32.3%

 

Avatar domestic run (weekly#'s) - 10 weeks

Dec 18-24: $137,094,001  - 3,452 theaters
Dec 25-31: $146,530,209    +6.9% 
Jan 1-7: $96,916,087    -33.9%
Jan 8-14: $69,926,708    -27.8%
Jan 15-21: $66,330,413    -5.1%
Jan 22-28: $47,674,969    -28.1%
Jan 29-Feb 4: $42,020,936    -11.9%
Feb 5-11: $31,112,330    -26%
Feb 12-18: $34,115,501    +9.7%
Feb 19-25: $21,183,640    -37.9% 

 

Avengers Endgame - first 10 weeks

 

Apr 26-May 2: $473,894,638    -    4,662 theaters
May 3-9: $186,551,101    -60.6%
May 10-16: $80,949,131    -56.6%
May 17-23: $39,936,866    -50.7%
May 24-30: $26,357,048    -34%
May 31-Jun 6: $11,877,156    -54.9%
Jun 7-13: $7,408,419    -37.6%
Jun 14-20: $5,634,607    -23.9% 
Jun 21-27: $3,172,195    -43.7%
Jun 28-Jul 4: $8,981,672    +183.1%

 

[Elessar]

6 hours ago, Deuce66 said:

The Cameron pattern, will it repeat??

 

Titanic (1997) : w/w gross $2,201,647,627 took over #1 w/w over Jurassic Park (1993) $1,099,428,303 an increase of 100.25% !!! this is one record that will stand a long time perhaps forever. #3 from the pre-97's is The Lion King (1994) $1,063,611,805.

 

Avatar (2009): w/w $2,847,379,794 takes over #1 from Titanic with an increase of 29.3% - again very impressive. 

 

 

Titanic's initial run was $1.85b, $870m more than number 2 at the time, Jurassic Park ($978m). Avatar bested Titanic by almost exactly $1b. Impressive, any way you slice it.

 

I guess Avatar 2 will do $4b.  

Edited March 20, 2022 by Elessar

[hw64]

59 minutes ago, Elessar said:

 

Titanic's initial run was $1.85b, $870m more than number 2 at the time, Jurassic Park ($978m). Avatar bested Titanic by almost exactly $1b. Impressive, any way you slice it.

 

I guess Avatar 2 will do $4b.  

 

Jurassic Park's initial theatrical run was $912-$915m (numbers seem to vary), and Titanic's $1.843b did indeed double the record. Box Office Mojo's current figures are inaccurate and they're likely double-counting something in the international gross — here's an archived version of the site from earlier last year with the correct figures.

 

And yep, Avatar's $2.749b was +49% over Titanic's then-record of $1.843b; the rest of Titanic's earnings came after Avatar's initial theatrical run in Titanic's 2012 3D re-release. As I think has been pointed out in this thread before, when Avatar ended its initial theatrical run with that $2.75b, the highest grossing non-Cameron film was Return of the King with $1.14b, which Avatar grossed over 140% more than.

[Deuce66]

On 3/18/2022 at 4:50 PM, interiorgatordecorator said:

 

will do

  Reveal hidden contents

didn't know how to

 

Heres the guy who claims that the 20 min preview, which we know exists, was shown to a very select few at SXSW (possibly contains spoilers for the first 15-20 min if true):

https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/165203332/

 

Most interesting claim is that the 3D version doesn't exist yet (still rendering), so the "mind-blowing" footage excecs have seen and commented on is only the 2D cut

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think there's anything surprising in what he revealed, Landau has already gone on record that an "event" will force the Sully family to move. Now the extent of that event is what might surprise viewers. Complete obliteration of the Omaticaya tribe except for a few survivors?? 

 

I do expect the CGI to set a new standard and I'm expecting the movie to look a lot sharper than typical blockbusters of the last 5 years or so which all tend to have the same visual palette. Dark/Darker/Darkest....

[Eric Duncan]

 

OHHHHHHHHHH

[AnDr3s]

what do you guys expect for OW wordwide?

[interiorgatordecorator]

23 minutes ago, AnDr3s said:

what do you guys expect for OW wordwide?

 

First one did a bit less than 300

 

Id say 750

 

but I feel a bit iffy about that number, and believe it could easily be significantly higher or lower (range of 250 million both ways) 

Edited March 22, 2022 by interiorgatordecorator

[interiorgatordecorator]

30 minutes ago, Eric Says Trans Rights said:

 

OHHHHHHHHHH

 

How did marketing for the titanic re-release work? By that I mean when did the first trailer drop?

 

So far out I think it's probably the re-release (there was also talk of avatar 1 legos being announced in april/may, so there's that to consider)

 

EDIT: titanic re-release announced in may 2011 for release in april 2012, trailer in november 2011

Edited March 22, 2022 by interiorgatordecorator

[XXR vs XXR]

8 minutes ago, AnDr3s said:

what do you guys expect for OW wordwide?

 

Who knows. If it opens in China the same weekend as all other markets, maybe $800M?

 

If not, maybe $450-500M. 

[YM!]

On 3/9/2022 at 3:42 PM, YourMother said:

I wonder when we’ll get the first teaser. I was going to say MoM but I think the two marvel films will be attached to it.

Ayyyyy

[WittyUsername]

Seeing the trailer for this is going to be surreal.