The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies OS Thread | 700M OS passed

[Michael Seng Wah]

Current markets + DOM needs about $160mil, add on China around $120mil (if possible), then only billion is a lock.

 

Hopefully better legs and China breaks out.

[elessar85]

people are claiming the admissions are higher than the other two so I would like to see if this is the case

OK, I have been following these forums and some of the contributors for a long time, probably since the mojo days. I rarely see any posts about Turkey but I thought I could provide some insight to the numbers there myself. LOTR was the reason I started following box office numbers so I feel kind of obligated to do this now

Turkish market has grown quite a bit since the time of LOTR. Records keep getting broken by local films every year. However FOTR still stands as the 4th most attended foreign film in history after Titanic, Avatar and Ice Age 4. Below are the final figures for LOTR.

FOTR - 1,759,705 tickets sold

TTT - 1,459,205 tickets sold

ROTK - 1,252,640 tickets sold

The Hobbit trilogy has the advantage of a considerably bigger market however AUJ could not benefit much from this for some reason. Differently from LOTR though, the series has shown an upward trend. LOTR was huge in Turkey back in the day and the films are among the most beloved ever. I think there was a bit of a backlash to the idea of the Hobbit originally and the audience was kind of underwhelmed. This effect seems to have worn off by each film and additionally the younger generation sort of caught up with Middle Earth. Long story short, this is what the Hobbit films did in Turkey.

AUJ - 1,064,088 tickets sold

DOS - 1,210,949 tickets sold

BOTFA has recently broken a few foreign film records in the Turkish market. It was the first ever Middle Earth film to open on a Wednesday and it broke the opening Wednesday record with 109,000 tickets. Despite opening on Wednesday, it also broke the opening weekend record with 439,596 tickets sold. After 2 full weeks in cinemas plus the opening Wednesday and Thursday, its current tally stands at 1,281,516 tickets sold. It has already passed the first two films as well as ROTK and is sure to surpass TTT as well. It will probably finish its run with around 1,600,000 tickets so I believe FOTR will remain as the most popular JRR Tolkien adaptation as it is in so many other countries.

[Asyulus]

As I already stated, China should explode this time due to better release date plus lack of competition plus finale factor. DoS increased 25 in china inspite of bad release date and crowded competition.

Edited January 5, 2015 by Adrius

[peludo]

As I already stated, China should explode this time due to better release date plus lack of competition plus finale factor. DoS increased 25 in china inspite of bad release date and crowded competition. 2x Multiplier over DoS is very likely and a chance bet at 2.5x

TF4 China jumps was very massive, having over 300 million.

 

TF4 jumped $150m from $175m thanks to be the BIGGEST franchise there and with 3 years of inflation, not just 1, like Hobbit. $150m in 3 years is $50m per year from $175m. With the same proportion (28% yearly), Hobbit would finish with $96m.

 

I will take what people from Chinese thread say. Somewhere between 110-120, what would be quite good. To talk about doubling just one year later is fantasy, IMHO.

Edited January 5, 2015 by peludo

[Asyulus]

TF4 jumped $150m from $175m thanks to be the BIGGEST franchise there and with 3 years of inflation, not just 1, like Hobbit. $150m in 3 years is $50m per year from $175m. With the same proportion (28% yearly), Hobbit would finish with $96m.

 

I will take what people from Chinese thread say. Somewhere between 110-120, what would be quite good. To talk about doubling just one year later is fantasy, IMHO.

Updated the post.

[CJohn]

Until yesterday, BOTFA had sold 306000 tickets over here. Smaug ended his run with 299500 tickets sold. Unexpected Journey ended with 370000 tickets. I am curious to see if BOTFA can pass the first movie. Still a fantastic run for BOFTA either way.

Edited January 5, 2015 by CJohn

[Asyulus]

This still has chance for 1B. China huge increase+domestic markets+current markets

[LexJoker]

As I already stated, China should explode this time due to better release date plus lack of competition plus finale factor. DoS increased 25 in china inspite of bad release date and crowded competition.

If you're comparing DOS and AUJ, both had similar bad release dates in China. DOS did not have a significantly worse one.

[Elessar]

Lack of competition? I'm hearing on its 2nd weekend 4 movies based on popular cartoons are gonna open. Maybe not huge hits on their own but it's four of them, which will take away screens.

[elessar85]

Just read this on Deadline:

"International actuals are in from most of the studios with a few figure shifts. The Hobbit: The Battle Of The Five Armies came in higher than projected with a total $54M weekend and a cume of $504.65M."

[Elessar]

Every little bit helps, i guess.

 

We never got an update on last week's gross. I wonder if it's coz it didn't change or they just didn't report it...

 

The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies

weekend 1: $122.1 million [37 markets] / $122.1 million

weekend 2: $109 million [59 markets] ($269 million) / $358.1 million

weekend 3: $89.2 million [62 markets] ($405.1 million) / $573.6 million (est.)

weekend 4: $54 million [65 markets] ($504.6 million) / $725.2 million

 

The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

weekend 1: $135.4 million [49 markets] / $209 million

weekend 2: $97.4 million [56 markets] ($278.4 million) / $406 million 

weekend 3: $99.7 million [62 markets] ($424.8 million) / $616.1 million 

weekend 4: $58 million [64 markets] ($527 million) / $756.6 million

weekend 5: $22.2 million [62 markets] ($566 million) / $802.8 million (est.)

 

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey

weekend 1: $138 million / $222.6 million

weekend 2: $96 million [59 markets] ($288.5 million) / $438.6 million

weekend 3: $106.5 million [62 markets] ($464 million) / $686.7 million

weekend 4: $57.1 million [65 markets] ($561 million) / $824.8 million

weekend 5: $26.2 million ($609.3 million) / $887.5 million

Edited January 6, 2015 by Elessar

[Jupiter]

A small update of the international numbers for Hobbit from BO mojo.

 

 Foreign:  $517,400,000
 

as of 7/1/2014

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=hobbit3.htm

Edited January 8, 2015 by Jupiter

[elessar85]

A small update of the international numbers for Hobbit from BO mojo.

 

 Foreign:  $517,400,000

 

as of 7/1/2014

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=hobbit3.htm

So that's pretty much on par with DOS for three weekdays. I guess at this point this is the best we can expect.

[Jupiter]

Oh,and something funny. The Foreign number of DOS went from 700.000.000 to 702.000.000 a few minutes ago.

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=hobbit2.htm

[peludo]

Oh,and something funny. The Foreign number of DOS went from 700.000.000 to 702.000.000 a few minutes ago.

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=hobbit2.htm

And it surpasses DH1 in WW list.

[miketheavenger]

And it surpasses DH1 in WW list.

Don't tell Noctis that.

[IndustriousAngel]

Oh,and something funny. The Foreign number of DOS went from 700.000.000 to 702.000.000 a few minutes ago.

 

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=hobbit2.htm

Might that be thanks to BOM counting the triple features as a re-release? If yes, the according ^ is missing.

[keysersoze123]

cine directors is predicting 60% drop in france. Should have a brutal weekend drop overall.

[Noctis]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE

[John Marston]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE

What's the point of fudging so late? Probably just a final update