ecstasy Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Baumer, I feel you're taking the meaning of "cash grab" a bit too literally. It's more about churning out sequels and dilulating a brand for the sake of profit and how that hurts from a creative standpoint. Studios really don't care about creativity. They care about money. Creativity is left up to the directors, writers etc. That's why they always interfere when they think a project won't have a draw. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Maybe cash grab can be defined as the point where the creative reason for making a movie is less of a factor than a business reason. So TS3 might be borderline but TS4 is a cash grab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Making a movie because you know it will make money is not a "cash grab." Making a movie for the purpose of churning out money without regard to the actual quality or artistic value of the content is a "cash grab." Splitting a long winding book like Deathly Hallows into two movies was not a cash grab. Splitting far shorter books like Mockingjay and Breaking Dawn with front halves that could easily be covered in about an hour into two movies were cash grabs. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 A billion dollars does that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardiaStar Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'm just going to keep listening to JLaw's Hanging Tree. It's making me feel better and better. Sing to me JLaw. Lul me into a trance away from this sorrow thread. I'm listening to that song too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Studios really don't care about creativity. They care about money. Creativity is left up to the directors, writers etc. That's why they always interfere when they think a project won't have a draw. That's a cynical viewpoint. Go ask Ben Affleck or Christopher Nolan about Jeff Robinov's view on greenlighting a project. The guy is a filmmaker's executive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Maybe cash grab can be defined as the point where the creative reason for making a movie is less of a factor than a business reason. So TS3 might be borderline but TS4 is a cash grab. Every Pixar film is a cash grab too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Jedi Master 007 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) You can honestly define most franchise films as cash grabs, I feel. Did we need the story of A New Hope to continue in Empire Strikes Back? Do we ever need another Bond film? Do we need The Hunger Games to be adapted to film? And so forth and so forth. Edited November 23, 2014 by Dark Jedi Master 007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Also, Angels and Demons partly collapsed on domestic "buyer's remorse" about the first film. Domestic audiences showed up out of the goodwill of DVC the book, and were roundly disappointed by the film. Does nobody remember the complaints that the film was dull, that Tom Hanks seemed to be on the verge of falling asleep, and so on? Still, I'm very excited for Inferno's run in 2016. Even with a supposedly mixed reception from DVC, Angels and Demons still made 485M WW. That is huge for an adult thriller (people say Gone Girl making 325M as an adult thriller is a huge deal, but they fail to see in perspective). A&D made 352M OS back in 2009 (and it had a 2.9 multi in the US, which is pretty good). I'm really curious to see what Inferno will do in with the expanding markets and 7 years of inflation. Edited November 23, 2014 by James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) That's a cynical viewpoint. Go ask Ben Affleck or Christopher Nolan about Jeff Robinov's view on greenlighting a project. The guy is a filmmaker's executive. Sure there are exceptions. For every Jeff Robinov there are 2 Tom Rothmans. Edited November 23, 2014 by ECSTASY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) That's a cynical viewpoint. Go ask Ben Affleck or Christopher Nolan about Jeff Robinov's view on greenlighting a project. The guy is a filmmaker's executive. I just wish his views on DC comics were the same. Apparently it was his because of him that something like Green Lantern ended up as a "studio made film" for example (a movie made by a committee), and because of that, ended up becoming the mess we got. Edited November 23, 2014 by Pokearcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 CASH GRAB When movie studios produce unnecessary and often poor quality sequels in order to obtain more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 We should just kinda move on. We should accept that baumer is right and people who are not him are ignorant and wrong. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Making a movie because you know it will make money is not a "cash grab." Making a movie for the purpose of churning out money without regard to the actual quality or artistic value of the content is a "cash grab." Splitting a long winding book like Deathly Hallows into two movies was not a cash grab. Splitting far shorter books like Mockingjay and Breaking Dawn with front halves that could easily be covered in about an hour into two movies were cash grabs. I think you should add "the hobbit" at your list 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Jedi Master 007 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 CASH GRAB When movie studios produce unnecessary and often poor quality sequels in order to obtain more money. So if I like MJ1, is it still a cash grab? Cause you said "often poor quality". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Bottom line Hollywood likes money, they especially like our money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) The Hobbit trilogy is most definitely a cash grab. In general though cash grabs are made for the purpose, of well, making money. Edited November 23, 2014 by Pokearcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) I'm just going to say im really impressed with Gone Girl's run, it's stayed in the top 5 for nearly 2 months straight despite an entourage of releases. With a strong awards run it could still be in for another 20m or so. Very happy that Fincher has a solid hit. Edited November 23, 2014 by The Panda 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roymust10984115 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) BvS Dawn of Lulz is a cash grab garbage like Lame of Steel edit: and the hobbit trashes too Edited November 23, 2014 by StarkyStark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I think you should add "the hobbit" at your list The Hobbit is a case where basically Peter Jackson came to the studio and said he wanted to film as much as he wanted to tell the story he wanted and it might end up being multiple films and the executives at WB were like "ok." It was a director-driven passion project rather than the studio top-down decisionmaking of the other movies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
