Weekend Thread | RTH pg 197...Mother's Day not kind to CW but very kind to JB and MD CW 42, JB 9,7, MDD 6.1,Hunts 1.48...puts CW at about 178M

[Truckasaurus]

Just now, A Guy said:

It's still falling below age of ultron one of marvels worst movies to date 

 

It might lose the OW battle, but it's going to win the domestic total war.

[Napoleon]

I still have my fingers crossed that it will make the $200M OW it was projected and expected 

[grim22]

17 hours ago, A Guy said:

If the mcu cannot grow its audience then it's days are numbered period this is a bad sign and it's only going to get worse

 

rip mcu

 

Hi The Coon

 

3 minutes ago, A Guy said:

It's still falling below age of ultron one of marvels worst movies to date 

 

Bye The Coon

[moviesRus]

4 minutes ago, A Guy said:

It's still falling below age of ultron one of marvels worst movies to date 

 

I mean, that movie made $1.4 billion so falling slightly short of that is pretty much the best problem any studio could have.

[phoeeeel]

It is a Cap movie, but its box office definitely benefits from having Iron Man, other Avengers, and debut of Black Panther and a new Spiderman. They are shown in the trailer and on the poster(except for spiderman). This is clearly not the usual stand alone MCU movie where people constantly complain about other Avengers not showing up. In terms of box office, it makes much more sense to compare CW with an Avenger movie. Not because it is an Avenger movie, but its box office draw is much closer to Avenger than any solo movie.

[eddyxx]

20 minutes ago, Focus said:

20 minutes is beyond extended cameo. And you're excluding the airport scene.

And how does the antagonist (one of the most important character in any story), not count?

I'm excluding the airport scene because it is the one scene in the movie that feels like a Avengers movie. One scene. Those characters don't have.much to do outside that scene. Its hard for me to explain this without posting spoilers but let me just say the team IM supporting  characters don't get much focus in the movie and the team Cap ones obviously gravivtate around Cap, some of whom dont even appear til halfway in the movie or have some plot reason why they aren't on screen. Basically they are cameos. Some of them I wonder if they were overpaid for what amounts to a week of shooting.  My original point was the non TWS characters aren't in the movie much and are basically cameos

 It's a TWS sequel and it's charcters get the lion share of screen time.

 

As for IM. He's the antagonist. That's why I excluded him from the rest. He is obviously important to the story because he is there to provide conflict for our title character. That is his importance to the story. But he is merely driving Caps story. Not overtaking it. His last scene in the film is even about Cap. Not his central conflict as it wouldve been his own film, but how he effected Cap and how their relationship stands going into the next chapter of Marvel films. Cap is even the final character shown on screen. 

Edited May 8, 2016 by eddyxx

[SpiderByte]

Zemo is clearly the antagonist more than Stark.

[eddyxx]

4 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:

Zemo is clearly the antagonist more than Stark.

"a person who actively opposes or is hostile to someone or something; an adversary."

 

This is both of them but mostly Stark. He is the central source of conflict so he is the main antagonist. You can have more than one.

[Dementeleus]

It's Family Movie Night at Chateau Tele. We watched THE BLACK STALLION and now Tele Jr is pretending to ride a horse around the house. 

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, Telemachos said:

It's Family Movie Night at Chateau Tele. We watched THE BLACK STALLION and now Tele Jr is pretending to ride a horse around the house. 

Adorable.

[cannastop]

17 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

I still have my fingers crossed that it will make the $200M OW it was projected and expected 

[Chewy]

Def not reading this thread. Good number. A lot bigger than I was expecting earlier this year.

[mredman]

Its not gonna win OW and its not gonna win Domestic either. Both those will go to Star Wars Rogue 1. It has Darth Vader and it properly also has The Emperor Palpatine and its close to A New Hope. Rogue 1 will be gigantic. CW is gonna be crushed by it.

[Napoleon]

Just now, mredman said:

Its not gonna win OW and its not gonna win Domestic either. Both those will go to Star Wars Rogue 1. It has Darth Vader and it properly also has The Emperor Palpatine and its close to A New Hope. Rogue 1 will be gigantic. CW is gonna be crushed by it.

CW has Spiderman and Iron Man

 

[Deathlife]

These arguments are funny and the way people are trying to breakdown them into "binary parts" doesn't really work.

 

Before this weekend, some people were saying this is Avengers 2.5 and were predicting something massive. These are the people that should be disappointed. A lot of people joined this train because of the buzz and hype (plus some absurd tracking numbers).

 

Another group of people were arguing that it wasn't an Avengers movie and it wasn't going to make money like an Avengers movie. Oddly enough, some of these people have now changed stance and insist it's an Avengers movie and is underperforming because it didn't open to over $200m. 

 

Then another group simply said that it isn't an Avengers nor Cap sequel. This opening is perfectly in line what they had predicted. This movie is making EXACTLY what it should make and frankly no one should be entirely surprised when it's been stated by people a number of times. The international openings (especially Australia) that came in below Ultron was the clearest indicator. With the shared universe thing getting bigger and bigger, we're going to see a lot more "hybrid sequels" like Cap 3 and predicting them is just extremely difficult. If we can put aside the "posting with an agenda" thing, then it'll be easier to understand.

Edited May 8, 2016 by Deathlife

[The Futurist]

The nervous breakdowns when Rogue will disappoint ... whatever the lunatic bar it will have in people s mind.

[a2k]

180m is a mega number for any movie. Had SW7 opened to 180m last year, that would have been great too.

Amazing consistency for the Avengers movies, 207.4=>191.3=>180

[Sam]

2 minutes ago, Chewy said:

Def not reading this thread. Good number. A lot bigger than I was expecting earlier this year.

 

No. You will read it. And you must answer the important question above. The thread title demands it. You have no choice. 

[Chewy]

12 hours ago, grim22 said:

Looks like a 174-182M OW depending on the breaks on Saturday/Sunday. 

 

The trades and tracking have once again ruined what should have been looked at as an unmitigated triumph. Second continuous summer opener where this happened.

 

Feels like people are way overpredicting every single movie this year. Star Wars ruined the box office. The only big movie that's going to beat people's hyper-inflated prerelease expectation is friggin Deadpool

[eddyxx]

Rogue One is not opening to 180m