grey ghost Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 It seems the idea that some movies deserve more box office success is flatly rejected by some around here. What stance do you take and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! is St Peter Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Depends on the movie and how attached you are to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 As @baumerwould say. Deserves got nothing to do with it. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifle Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, grey ghost said: It seems the idea that some movies deserve more box office success is flatly rejected by some around here. What stance do you take and why? Unless piracy is involved, no. It appeals or doesn't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) The "deserves" argument is pretty much just an extension of the "this movie ruled/sucked" debate. If you love a movie obviously you'll wish the creators were rewarded for it. Though if a movie's already in the black I don't get caught up in saying "it should've made more than (other movie)". Edited February 26, 2017 by tribefan695 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 People see the movies that they want to see. Box Office is simply a popularity contest. It doesn't measure quality at all. That's what makes box office so enjoyable to follow. There is no real debate about a movie's quality. It is simply a gauge of what movies the most people were willing to pay to see in the movie theater. If a movie truly deserved to make more in box office, then it'll make it when the movie is re-released. That's why I use adjusted for inflation numbers and include re-releases. A movie can always be re-released and continue to earn at the box office if people want to pay to see it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Walt Disney said: People see the movies that they want to see. Box Office is simply a popularity contest. It doesn't measure quality at all. That's what makes box office so enjoyable to follow. There is no real debate about a movie's quality. It is simply a gauge of what movies the most people were willing to pay to see in the movie theater. But there is still a W/L dynamic to how much a movie earns at the box office. If it flops, it likely means less creative opportunities for the filmmakers. Edited February 26, 2017 by tribefan695 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franfar Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Movies "deserve" nothing. If they succeed, it's on their merits. Now there are some movies that should have succeeded more than they did, but they're entitled to nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 2 hours ago, DeeCee said: As @baumerwould say. Deserves got nothing to do with it. 100% this, "deserves" doesn't pay the bills. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 It's like in sports, you may have an opinion about how good or bad a team is but your record is your record. Sure perspective is needed but numbers are there to provide facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan7 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 They all get what they deserve! /end thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 Personally, I think Edge of Tomorrow should've been seen by way more people and everyone involved should've been better rewarded for their efforts due to the success. But what I'm realizing is a movie's success says less about the movie and more about the audience. You could try to sell Picaso's to the school for the blind and make only 8 dollars. This just means the students can't fully appreciate the paintings (for whatever reason) not that there's anything wrong with them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, tribefan695 said: But there is still a W/L dynamic to how much a movie earns at the box office. If it flops, it likely means less creative opportunities for the filmmakers. There are always consequences to a movie's box office results. However, box office itself is a measure of popularity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75Live Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 like already stated in here, deserve got nothing to do with it. all movies make what they "deserve". I get people would like movies they enjoy to make more (not entirely sure why, but that's for another thread lol), but that has nothing to do with deserve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 No /end thread 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Get what you get and you don't pitch a fit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoobSaibot Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Nobody is entitled to anything. Entitlement implies fairness. As we all know, life isn't fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabattery Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 minute ago, NoobSaibot said: Nobody is entitled to anything. Entitlement implies fairness. As we all know, life isn't fair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophie Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Basically.... no. Not at all. I root for movies. And I root against movies. We all do. But like somebody else said, they all get what they deserve. Nobody has ever thought that box office is completely indicative of quality. Box office isn't granted by some higher power. It's earned and compiled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlborn Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 These days box office is a lot about marketing anyway, at least for blockbusters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
