KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON | 10.20.2023 | Paramount | final gross: $68,026,901

[dudalb]

3 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

 

I don't have issue with Wolf despite its profanity. It is a work that showcase how Scorsese is capable of crafting non-stop ridiculous and outrageous scene, one after another. From getting tied-up on Plane, the yacht sinking, the Car, the phone; Scorsese utilizes every setting creatively to give us some of the most memorable fucked-up moment in cinematic history. Wolf is another example of how masterful Scorsese is in directing, he found a balance point between dramatic tension and black comedy. No wonder Wolf has some notable cult following after years of the release.    

Problem I have is the  excess becomes excessive after a while. I would have rather seen more about  how exactly the Wolf pulled off his scams rather then just another orgy.

Sorry, but I don't think Scorsese had the drama/black comedy tension in Wolf that he had in "Goodfellas" and a couple of others.

Wolf is a good movie, but not in the upper tier of Scorsese;s work.

[dudalb]

19 hours ago, Jake Gittes said:

 

Goodfellas. Casino is that style but pushed a lot further.

"Wolf of Wall Street" and "Irishman" also had that narration driven system.

Casino is also a bit overlong, and I think Scorsese could have dropped a couple of the fights between De Niro and Sharon Stone. Thye do become repetive after a while.

 

[dudalb]

21 hours ago, DAJK said:

I've never seen Goodfellas or Casino. Which should I watch first?

Though if you are discovering Scorsese, "Raging Bull" should be on your list.

[titanic2187]

20 hours ago, dudalb said:

Problem I have is the  excess becomes excessive after a while. I would have rather seen more about  how exactly the Wolf pulled off his scams rather then just another orgy.

Sorry, but I don't think Scorsese had the drama/black comedy tension in Wolf that he had in "Goodfellas" and a couple of others.

Wolf is a good movie, but not in the upper tier of Scorsese;s work.

Goodfellas got too much killings and blood for black comedy mood. None of the scene that involved killings in Goodfellas utilised "silly over the top" approach. And the sequences in Goodfellas doesn't feel exaggerated or ridiculous.  Some parts of that movie had too much of thriller tone to call it a black comedy. Whereas Wolf is mostly white-collar crime, and no murder involved in the movie. That crawling scene alone is a display of black comedy. Overall Wolf definitely fit black comedy tone more than any other Scoresese' works   

[MovieMan89]

Scorsese’s movies tend to get carried by incredible performances. Hugo is his best as a film and I will stand by it. Wildly under-appreciated.  

[dudalb]

1 hour ago, MovieMan89 said:

Scorsese’s movies tend to get carried by incredible performances. Hugo is his best as a film and I will stand by it. Wildly under-appreciated.  

Hugo is good and shows Scorsese has alot of scope as a filmmaker, , but it's not in the same universe as "Raging Bull" or "Goodfellows".

[MovieMan89]

Just now, dudalb said:

Hugo is good and shows Scorsese has alot of scope as a filmmaker, , but it's not in the same universe as "Raging Bull" or "Goodfellows".

Both two of the most overrated movies I’ve ever seen, bar none. RB is nothing at all wo DeNiro performance. Goodfellas I just don’t get the hype for in general. 

[Jake Gittes]

Goodfellows.

[Ozymandias]

The Departed is where its at imo.  People like to say that movie only won BP/BD because Marty was "way overdue".   Bullshit, wickedly entertaining movie with insane re-watch value and he hasn't made a better movie since. 

[Safeno Rdz]

Can we talk about how wronged Shutter Island was and how great it would've slayed awards season if it wasn't released the same year as Inception?

[tonytr87]

https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-box-office-forecast-killers-of-the-flower-moon/

 

Long-range tracking for this is impressive. Those trailers in front of Oppenheimer might do wonders. Plus, the power of Leo. 

[Jonwo]

Marty being old man shouts at cloud again:

https://www.gq.com/story/martin-scorsese-profile

 

 

[JWR]

I think this is being taken out of context. 

[WorkingonaName]

5 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

Marty being old man shouts at cloud again:

https://www.gq.com/story/martin-scorsese-profile

 

 

He only speaking facts

[filmlover]

It's just funny to me that he mentions Nolan as a Savior Against Franchise Cinema when dude had to make an acclaimed Batman trilogy to get to where he is today.

Edited September 25, 2023 by filmlover

[AMC Theaters Enjoyer]

2 minutes ago, JWR said:

I think this is being taken out of context. 

It is. It’s being clickbaited to be about superhero movies but he didn’t mention them at all, he was talking about franchise movies as a general term.

[Eric Furiosa]

Moderation

 

Yeah we're not opening that "Scorsese vs. Marvel" can of worms ever again. Move along, party people.

[Jonwo]

5 minutes ago, filmlover said:

It's just funny to me that he mentions Nolan as a Savior Against Franchise Cinema when dude had to make an acclaimed Batman trilogy to get to where he is today.

Not to mention Inception while very good and entertaining is a sci-fi heist movie, not exactly Silence. 

 

 

[CoolioD1]

It is a lovely profile though on his life and mortality. Definitely worth the read. But I knew as soon as I read it that the one passage would be stripped of context to bait the dumbest minds on the internet. A shame but it's how the game works.

Edited September 25, 2023 by CoolioD1

[keysersoze123]

22 minutes ago, filmlover said:

It's just funny to me that he mentions Nolan as a Savior Against Franchise Cinema when dude had to make an acclaimed Batman trilogy to get to where he is today.

At least Nolan is not beholden to franchise movies. Even during his Batman trilogy days, he made Prestige and Inception. Since then he has avoided sequels even when movies are successful and most filmmakers would have made sequel to something like Inception. Also when Nolan made Bat trilogy, it was not as if SH movies dominated BO across the board. There was diversity in Top 10 that was lacking by late last decade.