The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[RockyMountain]

6 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:

 

 

No one will be really caring about good reviews for this really as I think fanbase will be focusing on reception amoung the fans due to the last film.

 

 

I'm not sure about fan reaction unless you are talking about specific friends. It's pretty well known now that a lot of those audience polls were targeted by trolls.

[cdsacken]

32 minutes ago, RockyMountain said:

Reviews come out Wednesday morning (believe the press screenings are tomorrow evening) if reviews end up being good with these types of presale numbers could we potentially be looking at a 230+ OW?

Sure if 98%

[cdsacken]

27 minutes ago, Arendelle Legion said:

230 is extremely unlikely right now. Not sure how many times I have to say that good reviews won’t change much of anything. They're already baked in to expectations.  It’s not like good reviews -> bigger, bad reviews -> remains on course. It’s good reviews -> remains on course, bad reviews -> smaller.

This is generally accurate except when a super hyped film exceeds expectations. See Black panther and End Game. Reviews were crazy good and both over achieved. When next year is done and the closest film does less than half of EG I think people will appreciate the total more so.

 

I don't expect that kind of reviews. Good but nothing amazing. I agree what I expect will be baked in.

Edited December 16, 2019 by cdsacken

[Joyous Legion]

Just now, cdsacken said:

This is generally accurate except when a super hyped film exceeds expectations. See Black panther and End Game. Reviews were crazy good and both over achieved. When next year is done and the closest film does less than half of EG I think people will appreciate the total more so.

Yeah, I mean, spectacular bonkers insane amazeballs reviews could increase OW a bit. But not good reviews.

[cdsacken]

Agreed I don't even think like 90/70 RT/MC will do it. Needs like 98/80 to really push the needle.

[a2k]

35 minutes ago, RockyMountain said:

Reviews come out Wednesday morning (believe the press screenings are tomorrow evening) if reviews end up being good with these types of presale numbers could we potentially be looking at a 230+ OW?

I don't how many people are waiting for the reviews to purchase tickets for a massive beloved IP finale to push the OW by a significant amount  For the amount of advance and avid fans that a movie like TROS attracts 50% vs 100% won't make much of a difference over 3-days.

[cdsacken]

Oh now that I disagree big time on. 100% would create a frenzy like no other. Never gonna happen. Some films get treated with kid gloves. Reviewers are gonna be total aholes with this one.

[Lordmandeep]

11 minutes ago, RockyMountain said:

I'm not sure about fan reaction unless you are talking about specific friends. It's pretty well known now that a lot of those audience polls were targeted by trolls.

 

Well the epic reviews did not translate to great legs for that film either... but lets not rehash that debate here.

 

I think reviews wont matter much and personally i am waiting for what the fanbase thinks about the film to judge legs. 

[Bobbybuilderton]

10 minutes ago, RockyMountain said:

I'm not sure about fan reaction unless you are talking about specific friends. It's pretty well known now that a lot of those audience polls were targeted by trolls.

its not about audience score in general, its about specific critics/ acquaintances. It may be difficult for people who liked TLJ to relate, but a lot of people walked out of the movie feeling like critics lied to them.  So this time around, it's less that the audience score will matter and more that critic score will not. I know I definitely felt baffled that the movie had been so unanimously praised by critics. Word of mouth will need to be absurdly good to carry it far imo

[Deep Wang]

[FlashMaster659]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-4 Days

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Seats Left	Perct Sold
TOTALS	6	263	18872	54732	35860	34.48%

 

Total Sellouts Added Today: 1

Total Showings Added Today: 3

Total Seats Added Today: 418

Total Seats Sold Today: 770

 

Comps so far off of Final Totals of:

	%		Final Sold		TROS Sold		Comp
Joker	224.11		8421		18872		29.81m
Frozen 2	292.14		6460		18872		24.83m

 

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Outstanding jump for TROS. Would be awesome if Monday thru Thursday all see 1000+ seats sold each day.

[Knights of Ren]

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Edited December 16, 2019 by Knights of Ren

[Menor the Destroyer]

8 minutes ago, Knights of Ren said:

The fact that TROS will probably get a lower RT score than Spider-Man FFH is the biggest LOL on earth. 

Can we not do this in the tracking thread?

[Joyous Legion]

12 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

WAAAAAAANNNNNNNGGGGG 

[Justin4125]

27 minutes ago, Knights of Ren said:

The fact that TROS will probably get a lower RT score than Spider-Man FFH is the biggest LOL on earth. 

I don't get it? Spiderman FFH had a high RT score, wouldn't that make it very likely that most movies would have a lower RT score? 

Or is it the fact that its a Spiderman/MCU movie that gives rise to your personal incredulity. It doesnt matter what franchise a movie is a part of, they all have the capacity to be well-liked and well-reviewed

Or maybe you just disliked Spiderman FFH? But if that's the case I hope you realize critics, as well as people in general, do not necessarily share the same opinions as you

 

About TROS RT score, didnt we establish it doesnt matter a great deal? Clearly for this particular franchise critics and fans are divided, as long as the film performs well (80%+), I dont foresee reviews negatively impacting box office at all. I think JJ's talents are pretty well-suited for this franchise, I really don't think we need to worry about reviews. 

Also about those people complaining about critics' bias for SW films, regardless how you feel as a fan, these movies are incredibly well-made compared to most blockbuster fare. I don't think critics are particularly kind or biased, it seems very much more a case of fans being particularly harsh 

Edited December 16, 2019 by Justin4125

[ZackM]

32 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

I have no idea what this means.  Someone fill me in.

[FlashMaster659]

1 minute ago, ZackM said:

I have no idea what this means.  Someone fill me in.

He's getting numbers from the MTC he has access to

[Menor the Destroyer]

1 minute ago, ZackM said:

I have no idea what this means.  Someone fill me in.

It means he's got official presale numbers from his MTC.

[Tinalera]

Star wars the return of skywalker thurs dec 20 (taken mon dec 16)
Toronto ontario

 

Yonge Dundas

VIP
630 75/76
700 74/76
1015 76/76
1045 74/76

IMAX

700 337/356
1045 258/356

4DX
700 80/76 (non wheelchair sellout)
1000 76/76

 

Scotia place
Avx
700 427/448(near so)
1040 345/448

IMAX
730 401/16
1030. 363/416

Reg 3d
600 112/235
630 364/556
940 80/185
101 59/556

Non
600 321/388
910 131/192
940 259/388

Yonge eglington
VIP
600 /88 (non wheel sellout
900 91/95(near sellout)

945 87/88 (non wheel sellout)
1045.90/95

AVX
640 270/349
1015 203/349

Reg
600 130/328
730 239/328
930 58 /328 (new)
1100 16/328
705 76/229 (new)
730 247/328(new)
1020 0/249(new)
1025 26/229 (new)
1110 40/328 (new)

 

Eglington town
Avx
700 243/383
1045 94/383

IMAX
60 270/335
1000 219/335

Reg
630 42/260
645 44/108
730 113/211
945 20/108
1040 23/211
1145 5/260

 

Don Mills
VIP
600 108/115
700 109/115
945 101/115
1045 102/115
800 81/114 (new)

 

Yorkdale
Avx
700 251/395

800 234/349
1040 57/349
1140 85/395

Reg (new)
600 166/350
945 101253
700 109/253
840 55/253 (new)

 

Queensway
Vip
600 119/124
700 133/136
945 128/124
1045 116/135
800 45/55(new)
845 46/57 (new)
1130 38/55 (new)

Avx
700 325/377
730 315/426
1045 256/377
1145 54/421

600 88/211
630 244/279
945 56/211
1015 6/279

900 59/247 (new)

 

10748/1749

 

62 percent sold

 

13 new shows

New shows kept sales at 62. Almost all vip ( think alamo type seating ) is either sellouts or near.

 

Things wlll fill in nicely and thursday is prolly hard to get ticket. And then we wait to see what if any effect TLJ has on overall sales.

 

Edited December 16, 2019 by Tinalera

[Deep Wang]

25m