The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

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4 minutes ago, Porthos said:

I wouldn't put it quite that way (for perhaps obvious reasons )

 

I did qualify it with "garbage".

 

(Or maybe... Nope.  Not gonna make that joke.) 

 

 

[lorddemaxus]

5 minutes ago, john2000 said:

um i am not talking about him you know ?

Except your comment literally says "you". You do realise you are getting a bit hostile (not just on this thread but on the main thread too) over this movie right?

[john2000]

Just now, lorddemaxus said:

Except your comment literally says "you". You do realise you are getting a bit hostile (not just on this thread but on the main thread too) over this movie right?

i apologize, i wrote it in english, but based on what i would say in my own language,

 

PS hostile ? yes, but not bc  of the fanboysm, i am not a disney fan, but bc of the overreactions, however i agree that i should probably ignore them, bot being bot after all,

 

ps 2, in this thread at least i wasnt meant to be hostile, but probably it came out wrong, again talking about this thread

[el sid]

Stuber, sold tickets for the previews on Thursday and for Friday,
counted today 11am EST:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 72 (total tickets sold for Thursday) / 77 (total tickets sold for Friday, 6 showtimes)
Boston 13 (AMC Assembly Row 12): 39 / 52 (5 showtimes)
Boston (Boston Common):  23 / 16 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 27 / 23 (5 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 18 / 4 (4 showtimes)
Austin (still no showtimes at AMC Lakeline 9 → Barton Creek Square 14): 33 / 32 (5 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Center Point 11): 14 / 9 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 94 / 131 (5 showtimes)
LA (AMC Bay Street): 53 / 33 (5 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal):   84 / 64 (5 showtimes)
Tickets sold in 10 theaters till Thursday for Thursday: 457 / for Friday: 441 (yesterday it were 312 and 285).
 

Crawl, sold tickets for the previews on Thursday and for Friday, counted today 11am EST:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 63 (total tickets sold for Thursday) / 65 (total tickets sold for Friday, 7 showtimes)
Boston 13 (AMC Assembly Row 12): 27 / 32 (5 showtimes)
Boston (Boston Common): 21 / 13 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 35 / 14 (10 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 18 / 4 (4 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 14 / 6 (5 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Center Point 11): 20 / 16 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 91 / 83 (9 showtimes)
LA (AMC Bay Street): 41 / 20 (5 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 87 / 81 (6 showtimes)
Tickets sold in 10 theaters till Thursday for Thursday: 417 / for Friday: 334 (yesterday 261 and 209).

So Stuber and Crawl are almost on par now previews-wise and Crawl is still in front of Midsommar which had 136 sold tickets at the same time in 8 theaters. If I compare the 7 identical theaters it's 220 to 122 tickets, so Crawl sold nearly 2x as many tickets as Midsommar which is an a bit worse ratio than yesterday and would mean low to mid teens.

Edited July 11, 2019 by el sid

[ThomasNicole]

Curious to see how the reviews will impact, it’s probably doing nothing aggressive, but maybe it will be the difference between around $ 550M and +600M. 

[jedijake]

I think the reviews will impact TLK much more than they impacted Aladdin. The critiques are much more specific and on point than the vague whining about Aladdin. The reviews also seem to be much more in line with what has been clearly obvious in the promos-lack of emotion.

 

WOM will need to be HUGE for TLK. Not sure that's going to happen though.

[MovieMan89]

1 hour ago, jedijake said:

I think the reviews will impact TLK much more than they impacted Aladdin. The critiques are much more specific and on point than the vague whining about Aladdin. The reviews also seem to be much more in line with what has been clearly obvious in the promos-lack of emotion.

 

WOM will need to be HUGE for TLK. Not sure that's going to happen though.

Yep. Aladdin had everything going against it pre-release, TLK had everything going for it. The RT reception couldn't possibly represent a bigger chasm in implication for two movies with virtually the same score. 

 

I am definitely certain now that legs are going sub 3x. So it needs to really turn up on OW if it's crossing 500. 

Edited July 11, 2019 by MovieMan89

[jedijake]

17 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Yep. Aladdin had everything going against it pre-release, TLK had everything going for it. The RT reception couldn't possibly represent a bigger chasm in implication for two movies with virtually the same score. 

 

I am definitely certain now that legs are going sub 3x. So it needs to really turn up on OW if it's crossing 500. 

Boom you just nailed it. The 57% for Aladdin was not a surprise and many thought it would go lower and be Justice League/Dawn of Justice level bad. Surprise! The negative reviews for Aladdin did not reflect on the pre-release criticisms on social media (terrible blue genie, bland acting, horrid Prince Ali clip, robotic Jafar, etc.). The critics just said "not that great, but okay-better than I expected but not good like the original-but has some good points to it. But nobody reiterated the same issues that social media hated and, in context, those issues quickly washed away.

 

For LK, people treated it like the second coming. But the main critique was for the lack of expression in the animals. Low and behold, critics are AMPLIFYING the same issues some have had, pretty much saying that they are much worse. That is not a good thing!

 

The 57% for Aladdin was somewhat pleasantly better than many feared.

The 57% for TLK is shockingly devastating compared to what people anticipated.

 

That said, TLK will have at least a 3.0X and will easily cross $500 million domestic and $1 billion WW. However, those numbers alone, while strong in isolation, are not all that impressive in context to what TLK has been thought to do.

Edited July 11, 2019 by jedijake

[MovieMan89]

3 minutes ago, jedijake said:

Boom you just nailed it. The 57% for Aladdin was not a surprise and many thought it would go lower and be Justice League/Dawn of Justice level bad. Surprise! The negative reviews for Aladdin did not reflect on the pre-release criticisms on social media (terrible blue genie, bland acting, horrid Prince Ali clip, robotic Jafar, etc.). The critics just said "not that great, but okay-better than I expected but not good like the original-but has some good points to it. But nobody reiterated the same issues that social media hated and, in context, those issues quickly washed away.

 

For LK, people treated it like the second coming. But the main critique was for the lack of expression in the animals. Low and behold, critics are AMPLIFYING the same issues some have had, pretty much saying that they are much worse. That is not a good thing!

 

The 57% for Aladdin was somewhat pleasantly better than many feared.

The 57% for TLK is shockingly devastating compared to what people anticipated.

 

That said, TLK will have at least a 3.0X and will easily cross $500 million domestic and $1 billion WW. However, those numbers alone, while strong in isolation, are not all that impressive in context to what TLK has been thought to do.

BatB and Alice both failed to get 3x multis. Why should TLK with an OW over 100 like them and middling reception? 

[john2000]

7 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

BatB and Alice both failed to get 3x multis. Why should TLK with an OW over 100 like them and middling reception? 

bc audience may like it and its a summer movie, with almost noone competion, not saying that 3 multi is locked though far from it

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Lion King Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

 

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

IMAX: 

7 PM – 43/411(+4)

10 PM – 11/411

 

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 1/48

7:10 PM – 5/48

9:25 PM – 0/48

10:05 PM – 0/48

 

Prime 3D:

7:30 PM – 65/187

10:30 PM – 5/187(+2)

 

Dolby:

6 PM- 145/217(+3)

9 PM – 69/217(+3)

11:50 PM – 6/217

 

2D: 

6 PM – 46/158(+4)

6 PM – 4/56

6:10 PM – 5/48

6:20 PM – 8/44

6:40 PM – 2/94

6:50 PM – 15/92(+4)

7:20 PM – 15/44

7:40 PM – 4/56

7:50 PM – 0/44

8 PM – 7/40

8:10 PM – 2/36

8:20 PM – 5/48

8:30 PM – 4/94

8:40 PM – 0/92

8:50 PM – 0/44

9:05 PM – 4/158

9:10 PM – 0/56

9:15 PM – 0/48

9:20 PM – 0/44

9:30 PM – 3/94

9:45 PM – 0/92

10:15 PM – 0/44

10:40 PM – 3/56(+1)

10:50 PM – 0/44

11 PM – 0/40

11:10 PM – 0/36

11:20 PM – 0/48

11:30 PM – 0/94

11:40 PM – 0/92

11:50 PM – 0/44

11:55 PM – 0/56

12:00 AM – 1/158

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

IMAX: 

7 PM – 82/384(+11)

10 PM – 9/384

 

Real D 3D: 

6:30 PM – 11/85(+4)

7:30 PM – 0/52

9:30 PM – 0/85

10:30 PM – 0/52

 

Dolby: 

6 PM – 99/210(+1)

9 PM – 61/210(+4)

 

2D:

6 PM – 42/159(+7)

6:10 PM – 0/52

6:15 PM – 2/52

6:20 PM – 0/41

6:40 PM – 21/85

6:50 PM – 4/39

7:10 PM – 9/45(+2)

7:15 PM – 4/85

7:20 PM – 0/45

7:40 PM – 0/52

7:50 PM – 0/39

8 PM – 8/159

8:10 PM – 0/45

8:20 PM – 0/41

8:30 PM – 14/85

9:10 PM – 0/52

9:15 PM – 2/52

9:20 PM – 0/41

9:30 PM – 0/159

9:40 PM – 0/85

9:50 PM – 0/39

10:10 PM – 0/45

10:15 PM – 0/85

10:20 PM – 0/45

10:40 PM – 0/52

10:50 PM – 0/39

11 PM – 2/159

 

Total from 7 theaters: 1902(+142)/18042 (10.5%)

The Lion King Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

 

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

IMAX:

7 PM – 48/411(+5)

10 PM – 11/411

 

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 1/48

7:10 PM – 5/48

9:25 PM – 0/48

10:05 PM – 0/48

 

Prime 3D:

7:30 PM – 69/187(+4)

10:30 PM – 5/187

 

Dolby:

6 PM- 147/217(+2)

9 PM – 69/217

11:50 PM – 6/217

 

2D:

6 PM – 46/158

6 PM – 4/56

6:10 PM – 5/48

6:20 PM – 10/44(+2)

6:40 PM – 9/94(+7)

6:50 PM – 19/92(+4)

7:20 PM – 15/44

7:40 PM – 4/56

7:50 PM – 0/44

8 PM – 7/40

8:10 PM – 2/36

8:20 PM – 5/48

8:30 PM – 10/94(+6)

8:40 PM – 0/92

8:50 PM – 0/44

9:05 PM – 4/158

9:10 PM – 0/56

9:15 PM – 0/48

9:20 PM – 0/44

9:30 PM – 5/94(+2)

9:45 PM – 0/92

10:15 PM – 0/44

10:40 PM – 3/56

10:50 PM – 0/44

11 PM – 0/40

11:10 PM – 0/36

11:20 PM – 0/48

11:30 PM – 0/94

11:40 PM – 0/92

11:50 PM – 0/44

11:55 PM – 0/56

12:00 AM – 2/158(+1)

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

IMAX:

7 PM – 87/384(+5)

10 PM – 9/384

 

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 11/85

7:30 PM – 0/52

9:30 PM – 0/85

10:30 PM – 0/52

 

Dolby:

6 PM – 108/210(+9)

9 PM – 65/210(+4)

 

2D:

6 PM – 46/159(+4)

6:10 PM – 9/52(+9)

6:15 PM – 2/52

6:20 PM – 0/41

6:40 PM – 21/85

6:50 PM – 4/39

7:10 PM – 11/45(+2)

7:15 PM – 4/85

7:20 PM – 2/45(+2)

7:40 PM – 0/52

7:50 PM – 0/39

8 PM – 13/159(+5)

8:10 PM – 0/45

8:20 PM – 0/41

8:30 PM – 15/85(+1)

9:10 PM – 0/52

9:15 PM – 2/52

9:20 PM – 0/41

9:30 PM – 0/159

9:40 PM – 0/85

9:50 PM – 0/39

10:10 PM – 0/45

10:15 PM – 0/85

10:20 PM – 0/45

10:40 PM – 0/52

10:50 PM – 0/39

11 PM – 4/159(+2)

Total from 7 theaters: 2057(+155)/18042 (11.4%)

A small increase from yesterday. Many people are still at work though, so if the reviews influence sales, it has barely shown. Tomorrow will have a better picture, but sales are looking pretty mediocre here.

[john2000]

8 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Lion King Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

 

 

 

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

 

 

IMAX:

 

7 PM – 48/411(+5)

 

10 PM – 11/411

 

 

 

Real D 3D:

 

6:30 PM – 1/48

 

7:10 PM – 5/48

 

9:25 PM – 0/48

 

10:05 PM – 0/48

 

 

 

Prime 3D:

 

7:30 PM – 69/187(+4)

 

10:30 PM – 5/187

 

 

 

Dolby:

 

6 PM- 147/217(+2)

 

9 PM – 69/217

 

11:50 PM – 6/217

 

 

 

2D:

 

6 PM – 46/158

 

6 PM – 4/56

 

6:10 PM – 5/48

 

6:20 PM – 10/44(+2)

 

6:40 PM – 9/94(+7)

 

6:50 PM – 19/92(+4)

 

7:20 PM – 15/44

 

7:40 PM – 4/56

 

7:50 PM – 0/44

 

8 PM – 7/40

 

8:10 PM – 2/36

 

8:20 PM – 5/48

 

8:30 PM – 10/94(+6)

 

8:40 PM – 0/92

 

8:50 PM – 0/44

 

9:05 PM – 4/158

 

9:10 PM – 0/56

 

9:15 PM – 0/48

 

9:20 PM – 0/44

 

9:30 PM – 5/94(+2)

 

9:45 PM – 0/92

 

10:15 PM – 0/44

 

10:40 PM – 3/56

 

10:50 PM – 0/44

 

11 PM – 0/40

 

11:10 PM – 0/36

 

11:20 PM – 0/48

 

11:30 PM – 0/94

 

11:40 PM – 0/92

 

11:50 PM – 0/44

 

11:55 PM – 0/56

 

12:00 AM – 2/158(+1)

 

 

 

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

 

 

IMAX:

 

7 PM – 87/384(+5)

 

10 PM – 9/384

 

 

 

Real D 3D:

 

6:30 PM – 11/85

 

7:30 PM – 0/52

 

9:30 PM – 0/85

 

10:30 PM – 0/52

 

 

 

Dolby:

 

6 PM – 108/210(+9)

 

9 PM – 65/210(+4)

 

 

 

2D:

 

6 PM – 46/159(+4)

 

6:10 PM – 9/52(+9)

 

6:15 PM – 2/52

 

6:20 PM – 0/41

 

6:40 PM – 21/85

 

6:50 PM – 4/39

 

7:10 PM – 11/45(+2)

 

7:15 PM – 4/85

 

7:20 PM – 2/45(+2)

 

7:40 PM – 0/52

 

7:50 PM – 0/39

 

8 PM – 13/159(+5)

 

8:10 PM – 0/45

 

8:20 PM – 0/41

 

8:30 PM – 15/85(+1)

 

9:10 PM – 0/52

 

9:15 PM – 2/52

 

9:20 PM – 0/41

 

9:30 PM – 0/159

 

9:40 PM – 0/85

 

9:50 PM – 0/39

 

10:10 PM – 0/45

 

10:15 PM – 0/85

 

10:20 PM – 0/45

 

10:40 PM – 0/52

 

10:50 PM – 0/39

 

11 PM – 4/159(+2)

 

 

Total from 7 theaters: 2057(+155)/18042 (11.4%)

 

 

A small increase from yesterday. Many people are still at work though, so if the reviews influence sales, it has barely shown. Tomorrow will have a better picture, but sales are looking pretty mediocre here.

 

in general you mean ?

[Inceptionzq]

12 minutes ago, john2000 said:

in general you mean ?

What in general?

[Porthos]

10 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

What in general?

He's asking about TLK's pre-sales in general being mediocre in your area in your opinion.

[john2000]

3 minutes ago, Porthos said:

He's asking about TLK's pre-sales in general being mediocre in your area in your opinion.

yeah i didnt undertand by his comment if todays was mediocre or normal, or if he was speaking in general, reading it again i see that he meant in general as he said that there doesnt seem to be a review affect

[Inceptionzq]

@Porthos Thanks

 

@john2000 Yeah I’m thinking it’s mediocre overall too. Nothing amazing, but not bad. Though, it’s really just speculation since I only have FFH to compare to. So, my only comparison is a Tuesday opener, which I started tracking less than 3 days before previews, so it’s hard to know what to expect. I may just be expecting too much from the area.

[jedijake]

The previews and OD will still be strong, but the weekend multiplier from previews may take a big hit now.

 

That didn't  happen for Aladdin namely because the critics didn't have issues with any of the pre-release problems people had with the film. Even negative reviews said it was better than they expected.

[Eric the Fall Guy]

Crawl Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	28	429	3,804	11.28%

 

Total Seats Added Today: 274

[Eric the Fall Guy]

Stuber Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count



	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	26	251	3,174	7.91%

 

Total Seats Added Today: 140

[ThomasNicole]

18 minutes ago, jedijake said:

The previews and OD will still be strong, but the weekend multiplier from previews may take a big hit now.

 

That didn't  happen for Aladdin namely because the critics didn't have issues with any of the pre-release problems people had with the film. Even negative reviews said it was better than they expected.

Nah, i doubt a big portion of public will just give up and not seeing because of a score, OW will be perfectly fine.

 

Legs is another story... if the reception from GP are mixed, yeah, it's probably doing just the average 2.75x when it could be 3.2 or higher without competition.

 

Aladdin didn't do well across the whole weekend because of better than expected reviews, people just really like and think themselves it was better than expected, also memorial day help a little bit.