The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Borobudur]

10 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Locally, yes.  Can't speak for elsewhere.  Might just be a statistical blip.

But how is a city in california still have 25% limit? I thought they have increase the cap?

[Porthos]

12 minutes ago, Borobudur said:

But how is a city in california still have 25% limit? I thought they have increase the cap?

Because the 'rona is still relatively bad here:

 

https://covid19.ca.gov/safer-economy/

 

Or at least in the "substantial" tier.

 

That bar on the side that shows population by tier?  Placer and Sacramento County accounts for approximately 40% of folks left in the Severe tier.

 

Mind it isn't a huge spike type outbreak.  But compared to the rest of the state, we're what passes for a hotspot in the state.  Is finally trending downward and I'll be curious to see if we finally slip under the "Severe" tier when numbers get updated later today (though I think we still need to qualify for a lower tier for a couple of weeks before we can be shifted to it officially).

 

But, well, we don't qualify yet is the easy, simple, answer.

Edited May 18, 2021 by Porthos

[Inceptionzq]

3 hours ago, Porthos said:

Locally, yes.  Can't speak for elsewhere.  Might just be a statistical blip.

 

On 3/11/2020 at 2:01 PM, Inceptionzq said:

A Quiet Place Part 2 Thursday Night Showings Denver

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
257	18	8185	3.14%	9	38

 

Adjusted Zombieland 2 comp: 3.45M

IT 2 comp: 2.48M

 

Double feature is at 217 sold. 8 in the past day.

 

22 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

A Quiet Place 2 Thursday Showings Denver

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
313	19	12828	2.44%	14	70
$150 PWPs:	3
$200 PWPs:	1
$250 PWPs:	1
$300 PWPs:	1
Total	6

 

In Denver, A Quiet Place 2 is lagging quite a bit behind when including the Wednesday double features. Adjusting for the 9 theaters I tracked originally, there are 289 tickets sold as of yesterday. It beats out the 257 sold for Thursday back in March of last year, but it's far behind the 474 sold for Wednesday and Thursday. PWPs probably help a lot with the gap though, all of them were sold before Cruella came online.

[el sid]

The Conjuring 3, counted today at 11am EST (so far no showtimes on Thursday):

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 37 (4 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 10 (4 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 6 (4 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 2 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): no showtimes so far
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 6 (3 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 63 (3 showtimes)
 

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters till today for June 4: 124.

AQP II, previews on Thursday, counted today at 11am EST:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 91 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 26 (8 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 10 (7 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): no showtimes so far
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 5 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 77 (10 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 193 (17 showtimes)

Total tickets sold in 6 theaters till today for May 27: 402.

After last week I would preferably avoid all comparisons. But to stay this time rather pessimistic: It 2 had 1959 sold tickets 6 days later (=on Monday of its release week) in the same theaters (so AQP is at 20% now).
Means in my theaters AQP would need an increase by ca. 150% within the next 6 days for a result of around 50M OW. That's not completely impossible but not easy. And then it's still questionable if the walk-ups will be equally strong.
The Conjuring 3 has to triple its numbers within one week to track AQP II.

By the way I expanded the number of theaters for more variety. I will not count everyday but for sure at least once again this week.

Edited May 18, 2021 by el sid

[Inceptionzq]

On 5/17/2021 at 3:17 PM, Inceptionzq said:

A Quiet Place 2 Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

87

1594

5.46%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

52

1415

3.67%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
313	19	12828	2.44%	14	70
$150 PWPs:	3
$200 PWPs:	1
$250 PWPs:	1
$300 PWPs:	1
Total	6

A Quiet Place 2 Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

92

1594

5.77%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

58

1415

4.10%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
341	28	12133	2.81%	14	68
$150 PWPs:	4
$200 PWPs:	1
$250 PWPs:	1
$300 PWPs:	1
Total	7

 

Showings removed: 2

Seats removed: 695

 

GvK comp: 2.78M

Edited May 18, 2021 by Inceptionzq

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Cruella Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

13

654

1.99%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

34

749

4.54%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
88	7	4843	1.82%	12	36
$150 PWPs:	3
$200 PWPs:	1
$250 PWPs:	1
$300 PWPs:	1
Total	6

 

Showings added: 2

Seats added: 526

Cruella Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

13

654

1.99%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

38

749

5.07%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
97	9	4843	2.00%	12	36
$150 PWPs:	4
$200 PWPs:	1
$250 PWPs:	1
$300 PWPs:	1
Total	7

[charlie Jatinder]

5 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

In Denver, A Quiet Place 2 is lagging quite a bit behind when including the Wednesday double features. Adjusting for the 9 theaters I tracked originally, there are 289 tickets sold as of yesterday. It beats out the 257 sold for Thursday back in March of last year, but it's far behind the 474 sold for Wednesday and Thursday. PWPs probably help a lot with the gap though, all of them were sold before Cruella came online

I won't really consider it lagging behind.

1. Thursday solo is still being ahead.

2. AQP2 numbers from last year seems like were T-8 or T-9 days while this year are T-11 days.

Edited May 19, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[charlie Jatinder]

21 hours ago, Eric the Jigsaw Killer said:

A Quiet Place Part II Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-10 and Counting (Thu+Fri)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	162	573	15129	3.79%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 10

Total Seats Added Today: 552

 

Comp

0.499x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-10 Before Release (4.84M)

0.986x of Mortal Kombat T-10 Before Release (8.96M)

 

I don't how many are for Thursday alone, but would guess even Philly AQP2 is beating last year sales.

 

On 3/11/2020 at 9:44 AM, Eric the Jigsaw Killer said:

A Quiet Place Part II Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	45	218	11,049	1.97%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 15

 

Comp

0.234x of It: Chapter Two 9 days before release (2.46M)

 

[charlie Jatinder]

@Porthos since you have raw data in tabular form in some sheet, I suppose. 

Can you make a line chart showing AQP2 and AQP trend. Looking back, using Keyser's numbers, AQP2 had $500K sales for Thursday T-12 days in America. Considering how all our cities are essentially ahead of last year, can assume that number to be around $700K+.

[Inceptionzq]

19 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

I won't really consider it lagging behind.

1. Thursday solo is still being ahead.

2. AQP2 numbers from last year seems like were T-8 or T-9 days while this year are T-11 days.

That's true, I didn't even bother to check the dates.

 

On 3/10/2020 at 2:18 PM, Inceptionzq said:

A Quiet Place Part 2 Thursday Night Showings Denver

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
239	27	8185	2.92%	9	38

 

 

On 3/10/2020 at 2:33 PM, Inceptionzq said:

The Quiet Place double feature is at 209 sold. So, 448 tickets sold overall for previews.

 

3 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

A Quiet Place 2 Thursday Showings Denver

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
341	28	12133	2.81%	14	68
$150 PWPs:	4
$200 PWPs:	1
$250 PWPs:	1
$300 PWPs:	1
Total	7

 

In the 9 theaters originally tracked, there are 308 tickets sold and 6 PWPs(excluding the $250 one). So even more of an advantage for Thursday alone. Assuming most of the PWPs are for A Quiet Place, then we can probably say that A Quiet Place 2021 is only slightly behind 2020.

[poweranimals]

4 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Cruella Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

13

654

1.99%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

38

749

5.07%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
97	9	4843	2.00%	12	36
$150 PWPs:	4
$200 PWPs:	1
$250 PWPs:	1
$300 PWPs:	1
Total	7

So, is that good? Or not really?

[Inceptionzq]

37 minutes ago, poweranimals said:

So, is that good? Or not really?

It’s not good

[Borobudur]

1 hour ago, Inceptionzq said:

That's true, I didn't even bother to check the dates.

 

 

 

 

In the 9 theaters originally tracked, there are 308 tickets sold and 6 PWPs(excluding the $250 one). So even more of an advantage for Thursday alone. Assuming most of the PWPs are for A Quiet Place, then we can probably say that A Quiet Place 2021 is only slightly behind 2020.

Hopefully the positive buzz from the review can close up this gap. AQP2 last year was shut out 7 days before preview right? So the comparison should stop at T-7.

[poweranimals]

23 minutes ago, Inceptionzq said:

It’s not good

Well that's unfortunate. I was kinda rooting for the movie. Especially with how many disappointments we've had recently.

[Eric Loves Rey]

On 5/17/2021 at 11:08 PM, Eric the Jigsaw Killer said:

A Quiet Place Part II Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-10 and Counting (Thu+Fri)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	162	573	15129	3.79%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 10

Total Seats Added Today: 552

 

Comp

0.499x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-10 Before Release (4.84M)

0.986x of Mortal Kombat T-10 Before Release (8.96M)

A Quiet Place Part II Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting (Thu+Fri)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	172	638	16636	3.84%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 10

Total Seats Added Today: 1,507

Total Seats Sold Today: 65

 

Comp

0.521x of Godzilla vs. Kong T-9 Before Release (5.06M)

0.898x of Mortal Kombat T-9 Before Release (8.17M)

 

Yep. Another bad day in an endless line of bad days. You would think the reviews dropping would give it...a boost, but nah. Really sad honestly. Gonna lead to a bad weekend, that'll soon lead to a bad summer. Who knows? The rest of the year will probably be bad too. Oh well.

[Eric Loves Rey]

On 5/17/2021 at 11:18 PM, Eric the Jigsaw Killer said:

Cruella Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-10 and Counting (Thu+Fri)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	86	122	7854	1.55%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 7

Total Seats Added Today: 477

Total Seats Sold Today: 15

Cruella Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-9 and Counting (Thu+Fri)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	108	128	9853	1.30%

 

Total Showings Added Today: 22

Total Seats Sold Today: 1,999

Total Seats Sold Today: 6

 

Horrific stuff. Shaping up to be yet another misfire. Oh well.

[Eric Loves Rey]

On 5/17/2021 at 11:19 PM, Eric the Jigsaw Killer said:

The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-18 and Counting (Fri)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	41	50	4426	1.13%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 2

The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-17 and Counting (Fri)

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	41	55	4426	1.24%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 5

 

Yep. Gonna be a loooooooooooooooooooong summer. Oh well.

[Borobudur]

Going by this rate, theater manager or Christopher Nolan will have to kneel down in front of cinema , weeping and crying people to come in.

[Porthos]

3 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

@Porthos since you have raw data in tabular form in some sheet, I suppose. 

Can you make a line chart showing AQP2 and AQP trend. Looking back, using Keyser's numbers, AQP2 had $500K sales for Thursday T-12 days in America. Considering how all our cities are essentially ahead of last year, can assume that number to be around $700K+.

 

One big problem is I didn't realize there was a double feature getting a ton of tickets until a few days into my track.  So that would screw with the first few days of tracking.  Also. AQP II Take Two had two extra days of presales.  Neither are the biggest deals in the world, but it does make exact comparisons irksome.

 

Might be able to figure out something from T-17 through T-10.

 

*recreates stuff*

 

Not the most elegant charts in the world, but should get the point across:

 

 

Y-axis is total tickets sold, X-axis is days before release.

 

 

X-axis is still days before release, Y-axis is tickets sold that day.  Looks like the second go around had a pretty hefty head start locally, but it did have a couple of extra days of presales.  Other thing is messing with stuff is that double feature which was doing brisk sales, as I mentioned.  On the other hand, the 2021 version of this won't have a single PWP on it.  As I said last night, I know for a fact one is already booked for AQP II, and probably 6 or 7 of the other 9 are as well.

 

So AQP II 2020 was accelerating (at least for the double feature) just as the bug hit the windshield.  We'll see soon(-ish) if AQP 2021 starts to accelerate as well.  

Edited May 19, 2021 by Porthos

[Porthos]

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

A Quiet Place Part II Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-10 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	4	74	2458	3129	671	21.44%

 

Total Showings Added Today	3
Total Seats Added Today	68
Total Seats Sold Today	48

* NOTE: The two new showings added were from a theater which is non-reserved seating, and thus has no seat count available.

 

T-10 Comp      FAIRLY LOL AT THIS POINT - USE AT OWN RISK

	%		Sold T-10	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
GvK	47.42		189	1415		7/101	2787/4202	33.67%		4.55m

NOTE: Tickets have been on sale for five days longer for AQP Part II than GvK had been on sale locally this far from their respective premieres. 

 

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Private Watch Party Showings - Cinemark ($149)

9

 

 

Private Watch Party Showings - Regal ($199)	1
Adjusted Seats	22

NOTE: PWP adj = 16 seats for Cinemark [$149/$9.25 - rounded down], 14 seats for Cinema West [$130/$9.25 - rounded down], and 22 seats for Regal [$199/$9.25 - rounded up]

See further explanation for why I am approximating PWPs and why they should be viewed with at least some skepticism for Cinemark and Cinema West in this post.  However, it appears that we can track Regal PWPs to the movie purchased, as mentioned in this later post.

 

SECOND NOTE:  Since A Quiet Place Part II and Cruella are both debuting on the same day and both have PWPs available for purchase, I am not approximating the tickets sold at Cinemark and Cinema West locations for either movie on this track.  For the record, however, 8 PWP showings were purchased before tickets for Cruella  went on sale, for an approximation of 128 tickets.

 

A Quiet Place Part II Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-9 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	3	86	2823	3573	750	20.99%

 

Total Sellouts Removed Today	1
Total Showings Added Today	12
Total Seats Added Today	444
Total Seats Sold Today	79

 

T-9 Comp      FAIRLY LOL AT THIS POINT - USE AT OWN RISK

	%		Sold T-9	Total Sold		Sellouts/Shows	Seats Left/Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
GvK	45.07		249	1664		11/101	2538/4202	39.60%		4.33m

NOTE: Tickets have been on sale for five days longer for AQP Part II than GvK had been on sale locally this far from their respective premieres. 

 

===

 

Private Watch Party Showings - Cinemark ($149)

9

 

 

Private Watch Party Showings - Regal ($199)	1
Adjusted Seats	22

NOTE: PWP adj = 16 seats for Cinemark [$149/$9.25 - rounded down], 14 seats for Cinema West [$130/$9.25 - rounded down], and 22 seats for Regal [$199/$9.25 - rounded up]

See further explanation for why I am approximating PWPs and why they should be viewed with at least some skepticism for Cinemark and Cinema West in this post.  However, it appears that we can track Regal PWPs to the movie purchased, as mentioned in this later post.

 

SECOND NOTE:  Since A Quiet Place Part II and Cruella are both debuting on the same day and both have PWPs available for purchase, I am not approximating the tickets sold at Cinemark and Cinema West locations for either movie on this track.  For the record, however, 8 PWP showings were purchased before tickets for Cruella  went on sale, for an approximation of 128 tickets.

Edited May 19, 2021 by Porthos