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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

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Really depends on what you're looking for, but usually the most important takeaway for just a casual glance is the comp.  More on that in a bit.   But even that is highly dependent on a movie being either in a similar genre or having a similar pre-sale pattern as folks will buy tickets at different times during a pre-sale window thanks to a very long list of factors.   Add in that movies will have different promotional schedules during their pre-sales (review embargoes, TV ca
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MODERATION:   Hi, everyone. It’s 6 o’clock in the morning. I have not gone to bed yet. And I am tired. And I know it’s going to be a very long weekend. Here is the new rule.   This thread is for numbers and data. Please post your theater updates. Please post your comparable data. And please talk about that comparable data here.    If you wish to do a deep dive on why you think that data might or might not suck, then take it to the respective thread of the movie in ques
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Nova Global Phenomenon

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30 minutes ago, La Binoche said:

How reliable are Pulse sales? Are they related to Fandango? Cuz those reports (Nun outsells previous Conjuring films on Fandango) are pretty reliable. 

 

The latest Top 5 from Pulse: 

  


2018-09-30 19:00:00	623	Night School (2018)
2018-09-30 19:00:00	224	A Star Is Born (2018)
2018-09-30 19:00:00	209	Venom (2018)
2018-09-30 19:00:00	198	Smallfoot
2018-09-30 19:00:00	160	A Simple Favor

Why else do you think I’ve been calling for A Star Is Born over Venom OW the last couple weeks :Gaga:

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7 minutes ago, Nova said:

Why else do you think I’ve been calling for A Star Is Born over Venom OW the last couple weeks :Gaga:

I'm leery of predicting ASIB winning the weekend because of the R rating and comic book movies naturally being big openers that are frontloaded but I can't deny that it has a real possibility. Venom's reviews will be very, very important.

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TalismanRing Global Phenomenon

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Venom is consistently selling ahead of ASIB when you account for all formats

 

Running total for today:  Venom: 3515 &  ASIB:  2493  EDIT: (Full Sunday)  4871 v  3315

 

But genre & target audience matters when making comparisons in pre-sales 

 

How female driven will ASIB?  Will the R rating skew to higher pre-sales even though the target age might be overall younger than O8 and MM2?


Will Venom act more like Deadpool than Ant-Man even though it's PG-13 because it's core audience seems to be younger men rather than families and therefore be more pre-sale heavy? 

 

Opening Week 

 

Fandango App Monday Tues Wed Thursday
Oceans 8 3,009 4,372 11,114

 

Mamma Mia 2 4,427 5,099 12,117 17,226

 

Deadpool 2 23,134 28,896 41,212

 

Jurassic World 2 9,310 12,761 23,266

 

Antman & The Wasp  6,613 5,990 11,108

 

The Meg 1,539 2,944 6,723 16,202

 

 

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Pinacolada Box Office Gold

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1 hour ago, Nova said:

Why else do you think I’ve been calling for A Star Is Born over Venom OW the last couple weeks :Gaga:

Look at Venom the past two hours... And yeah you gotta look at the other formats. The 209 tickets for Venom that hour is only for standard 2d. The two of them are both starting to blow up tho. Hitting the 300s per hour. Venom even hit 600+ one hour when accounting all formats

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MrGlass2 Summer Tentpole

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2018-09-30 22:00:00	315	Venom (2018)
2018-09-30 22:00:00	294	A Star Is Born (2018)
2018-09-30 22:00:00	269	Night School (2018)
2018-09-30 22:00:00	143	My Hero Academia Two Heroes
2018-09-30 22:00:00	85	A Simple Favor

 

And so it begins. :Venom::Gaga:

 

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15 hours ago, Pinacolada said:

Look at Venom the past two hours... And yeah you gotta look at the other formats. The 209 tickets for Venom that hour is only for standard 2d. The two of them are both starting to blow up tho. Hitting the 300s per hour. Venom even hit 600+ one hour when accounting all formats

Yes but let's be real here. CBMs are known for having bigger presales than any other genre. ASIB doesn't strike me as a presales heavy movie.

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Gaga's fanbase is as noisy as CBM's. This is why presales and buzz are so big. Reviews will burn Venom, but it has other advantages like Imax, 3D and more cinemas than ASIB. ASIB over Venom total is virtually locked, but not seeing about OW.

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4 hours ago, MrGlass2 said: 

2018-09-30 22:00:00	315	Venom (2018)
2018-09-30 22:00:00	294	A Star Is Born (2018)
2018-09-30 22:00:00	269	Night School (2018)
2018-09-30 22:00:00	143	My Hero Academia Two Heroes
2018-09-30 22:00:00	85	A Simple Favor

 

And so it begins. :Venom::Gaga:

 

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10 hours ago, TalismanRing said:

Venom is consistently selling ahead of ASIB when you account for all formats

 

Running total for today:  Venom: 3515 &  ASIB:  2493  EDIT: (Full Sunday)  4871 v  3315

 

But genre & target audience matters when making comparisons in pre-sales 

 

How female driven will ASIB?  Will the R rating skew to higher pre-sales even though the target age might be overall younger than O8 and MM2?


Will Venom act more like Deadpool than Ant-Man even though it's PG-13 because it's core audience seems to be younger men rather than families and therefore be more pre-sale heavy? 

 

Opening Week 

 

Fandango App Monday Tues Wed Thursday
Oceans 8 3,009 4,372 11,114

 

Mamma Mia 2 4,427 5,099 12,117 17,226

 

Deadpool 2 23,134 28,896 41,212

 

Jurassic World 2 9,310 12,761 23,266

 

Antman & The Wasp  6,613 5,990 11,108

 

The Meg 1,539 2,944 6,723 16,202

 

 

do you have Sunday numbers for those movies you listed too?

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James Summer Tentpole

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10 hours ago, MikeQ said:

Now both Venom and A Star is Born are on MT:

1. Night School: 19.8%

2. Small Foot: 16.1%
3. The House With a Clock: 8.8%
4. Venom: 7.2%

5. A Star is Born: 5.2%

 

Peace,

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The fact that a movie like ASIB can keep up with a CBM in terms of presales is mighty impressive. And I know someone here mentioned the Lady Gaga fanbase but I don't think that makes such a huge difference. Diehards would have bought tickets by now and if that fanbase was so big then the numbers on Youtube for the trailers and music video would be bigger, especially since ASIB is basically new music from Gaga. But they are not coming even close to Venom's. I think 60m might happen for ASIB.

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