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[Barnack]

2 minutes ago, 4815162342 said:

 

Presumably when they were hired it was because there was a shared vision as to how the movie would turn out and there was an assumed mutual understanding

 

Maybe that vision, as exciting in theory, turned out to not be that great in execution and they resisted having to change approach? Maybe they walked back on what the original understanding was?  Or maybe there was a mutual misunderstanding as to vision the whole time. We'll never know for sure.

Or maybe the size of Force Awaken success changed what Disney wanted (I suspect that could be the case for Rogue One for example), all those director hired before Force Awaken first weekend could have needed to adjust to that new reality to be able to stay.

[Blankments]

9 minutes ago, Squadron Leader Tele said:

Too bad they (allegedly) were giant dicks. 

There are equal allegations that Kennedy edited the movies behind their backs. Truth is, as Numbers said above, there's no way we'll ever know which side (the ones saying Lord/Miller were dicks or the ones saying Kasdan and Kennedy wanted more control than was promised Lord/Miller) is true and probably comes somewhere inbetween.

 

What I do know though is that judging off their previous works, I'd at least find the Lord/Miller project interesting even if it was a failure whereas I have no desire at all to see whatever movie Ron Howard is cooking up right now.

[Mulder]

1 minute ago, Blankments said:

There are equal allegations that Kennedy edited the movies behind their backs. Truth is, as Numbers said above, there's no way we'll ever know which side (the ones saying Lord/Miller were dicks or the ones saying Kasdan and Kennedy wanted more control than was promised Lord/Miller) is true and probably comes somewhere inbetween.

 

What I do know though is that judging off their previous works, I'd at least find the Lord/Miller project interesting even if it was a failure whereas I have no desire at all to see whatever movie Ron Howard is cooking up right now.

Because you're completely unbiased about that aren't you Blanks. 

[Blankments]

8 minutes ago, 4815162342 said:

 

Presumably when they were hired it was because there was a shared vision as to how the movie would turn out and there was an assumed mutual understanding

 

Maybe that vision, as exciting in theory, turned out to not be that great in execution and they resisted having to change approach? Maybe they walked back on what the original understanding was?  Or maybe there was a mutual misunderstanding as to vision the whole time. We'll never know for sure.

I just ran out of likes Numbers but rest assured I wanna give this 100 billion. Finally someone on this site being gracious to Lord/Miller on the Han Solo firing.

 

Maybe they fucked up but judging off their track record and how other producers and colleagues have talked about them before this incident, I highly doubt that.

[Blankments]

3 minutes ago, Mulder said:

Because you're completely unbiased about that aren't you Blanks. 

If we're talking about how much I'll enjoy a movie, inherently I am going to be biased, we're talking literally about my own opinion.

[Barnack]

19 minutes ago, Squadron Leader Tele said:

Too bad they (allegedly) were giant dicks. 

With the long list of directors fired by that groups... those hit job story in the media become more and more hard to believe (or less and less a reason to loose your job there)

[Water Bottle]

10 minutes ago, Blankments said:

There are equal allegations that Kennedy edited the movies behind their backs. Truth is, as Numbers said above, there's no way we'll ever know which side (the ones saying Lord/Miller were dicks or the ones saying Kasdan and Kennedy wanted more control than was promised Lord/Miller) is true and probably comes somewhere inbetween.

 

What I do know though is that judging off their previous works, I'd at least find the Lord/Miller project interesting even if it was a failure whereas I have no desire at all to see whatever movie Ron Howard is cooking up right now.

 

What do you have against Ron Howard? He's a solid Academy Award winning director who delivers good movies most of the time.

[CoolioD1]

43 minutes ago, Squadron Leader Tele said:

It's not hard to top UNDERPANTS. 

i usually do it with jeans. sometimes sweats.

[AJG]

18 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

i usually do it with jeans. sometimes sweats.

[aabattery]

20 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

i usually do it with jeans. sometimes sweats.

 

Aren't you meant to wear a kilt?

[CoolioD1]

5 minutes ago, aabattery said:

 

Aren't you meant to wear a kilt?

aye but in that case there's no underwear.

[grim22]

6 minutes ago, aabattery said:

 

Aren't you meant to wear a kilt?

 

He said "over underpants", kilts don't apply for that reason.

[Blankments]

2 hours ago, Water Bottle said:

What do you have against Ron Howard? He's a solid Academy Award winning director who delivers good movies most of the time.

Of the blockbusters he's done, I've only liked one of them and that's the one everyone likes (Apollo 13). Lord/Miller, I've enjoyed all their attempts at blockbusters.

 

(Hell, looking at all the Ron Howard films I've seen, I still only like Apollo 13. Need to see Rush and Frost/Nixon tho)

[Darth Lehnsherr]

3 hours ago, Blankments said:

Of the blockbusters he's done, I've only liked one of them and that's the one everyone likes (Apollo 13). Lord/Miller, I've enjoyed all their attempts at blockbusters.

 

(Hell, looking at all the Ron Howard films I've seen, I still only like Apollo 13. Need to see Rush and Frost/Nixon tho)

Regardless of Ron Howard's recent track record the Han Solo film is not going to be his anyways. It's Kathleen Kennedy and Lawrence Kasdan's film now. 

Actually the idea of a young Han Solo film predate the Disney acquisition as George Lucas was ready to sell the company he was laying a road map for the sequel trilogy (which got scrapped by Disney) and various ideas for the spin-off films. Some were offered to Kasdan and he chose the young Han Solo idea. 

 

Also a young Han Solo was supposed to be part of that live action Star Wars tv show that Lucas and McCullum tried to develop after the release of Revenge of the Sith but due to budgetary concerns never left the shelf.

[Hades]

6 hours ago, Barnack said:

With the long list of directors fired by that groups... those hit job story in the media become more and more hard to believe (or less and less a reason to loose your job there)

Got to love the narrative the press and trades have created of the fired directors being the a##s holes while Kennedy and Disney are the poor old victims. Such BS 

[Krissykins]

9 hours ago, Blaze Heatnix said:

 

 

If it gets an F score, it'll join the list of 20 movies with that score:

 

10) Wolf Creek

16) Silent House

 

Ah I didn’t realise those two got F’s . I thought they were ok. 

[MCKillswitch123]

14 hours ago, That One Guy said:

It'd be interesting to do a best working director tournament on this forum.  Everyone suggests a couple directors to be added.  64 directors competing.  The ultimate bloodbath.

Smells like Nolanite bait. (Though for good reason)

[a2k]

This is subjective, but I feel A Beautiful Mind is the dividing line in Ron Howard's filmography. I thought that he peaked with that film and then went downhill. Having said that, the list of good films he has made (just going by online consensus, box office and anecdotal evidence) is extensive and noteworthy.

 

10/28/16	Inferno	Sony	$34,343,574	3,576	$14,860,425	3,576	17
9/15/16	The Beatles: Eight Days a Week - The Touring Years	Abr.	$2,930,414	155	$785,336	85	24
12/11/15	In the Heart of the Sea	WB	$25,020,758	3,103	$11,053,366	3,103	20
9/20/13	Rush (2013)	Uni.	$26,947,624	2,308	$187,289	5	19
1/14/11	The Dilemma	Uni.	$48,475,290	2,943	$17,816,230	2,940	14
5/15/09	Angels & Demons	Sony	$133,375,846	3,527	$46,204,168	3,527	6
12/5/08	Frost/Nixon	Uni.	$18,622,031	1,105	$180,708	3	23
5/19/06	The Da Vinci Code	Sony	$217,536,138	3,757	$77,073,388	3,735	2
6/3/05	Cinderella Man	Uni.	$61,649,911	2,820	$18,320,205	2,812	11
11/26/03	The Missing	SonR	$27,011,180	2,756	$10,833,633	2,756	18
12/21/01	A Beautiful Mind	Uni.	$170,742,341	2,250	$367,151	11	4
11/17/00	How the Grinch Stole Christmas	Uni.	$260,044,825	3,256	$55,082,330	3,127	1
3/26/99	EDtv	Uni.	$22,431,897	2,631	$8,311,290	2,627	21
11/8/96	Ransom	BV	$136,492,681	2,768	$34,216,088	2,676	5
6/30/95	Apollo 13	Uni.	$173,837,933	2,347	$25,353,380	2,197	3
3/18/94	The Paper	Uni.	$38,824,341	1,577	$175,507	5	15
5/22/92	Far and Away	Uni.	$58,883,840	1,885	$10,194,520	1,583	12
5/24/91	Backdraft	Uni.	$77,868,585	1,983	$12,686,200	1,852	8
8/2/89	Parenthood	Uni.	$100,047,830	1,399	$10,506,450	1,262	7
5/20/88	Willow	MGM	$57,269,863	1,209	$8,300,169	1,024	13
3/14/86	Gung Ho	Par.	$36,611,610	1,175	$7,170,830	1,150	16
6/21/85	Cocoon	Fox	$76,113,124	1,163	$7,936,427	1,140	9
3/9/84	Splash	BV	$69,821,334	1,186	$6,174,059	829	10
7/30/82	Night Shift	WB	$21,095,638	683	$2,539,633	683	22

[La Binoche]

12 hours ago, Water Bottle said:

 

What do you have against Ron Howard? He's a solid Academy Award winning director who delivers good movies most of the time.

I don't get the hate for him. He hasn't done a good movie in forever but Nightshift, Splash, Cocoon, Parenthood, Apollo 13 and A Beautiful Mind are all good. I even enjoyed Far & Away and Ransom.  

[YM!]

Cinderella Man is underrated.