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2 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

you really get the sense of everyone else in the room trying not to look at him.

 

Can you imagine? :lol: 

 

I think the reveal happened in some hollywood-elsewhere comment: something along the lines of "Here's a pic of the Spirit Awards, see if you can spot Jeff". Then the pic itself was either spoiler-tagged or buried under some spoiler blank lines so you had to scroll to it.

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I’ve seen the Baby It’s Cold Outside controversy come up.  

 

One of the arguments for not pulling it was “But Rap Music!”, which was ignorant at best.

 

Others claimed the songs original intent are not rapey, but follow the social norms of the era where women were supposed to initially deny a man’s advances?

 

The Song was always a little off-putting to me.  While I wouldn’t say it’s about rape, its lyrics certainly do not sit well within a modern context.

 

While the line “What’s in this drink” may not have been intended to mean she thinks the guy put something in her drink, that’s how it sounds in the modern culture.  And in a time when we are trying to drill “No means no” in peoples heads, and rightfully so, Baby It’s Cold Outside is certainly implying her no does not mean no.

 

It’s starting to feel like the song is becoming an artifact of overt rape culture.  I do think it’s time to dismiss it, similar to how Disney renounced Song of the South (for much different reasons).  In the fact, while Song of the South arguably may not have been seen as racist in its time, looking at it now it’s certainly racist.  Baby It’s Cold Outside may be about a flirtation under 1940s dating norms, but 1940s dating norms promoted rape culture in that a woman’s no would only be taken as “try harder”.  I think not airing a song that continues to promote dating norms from a dated culture is a good decision, even if I reckon it’ll get reversed under the backlash.

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39 minutes ago, DAR said:

I never really liked the song myself.  But I’m kind of in the camp of you don’t like it just stop listening to it.

I'm not really advocating for it to be completely removed from all music platforms.  But I think the decision to cut it from Christmas radio is a good one.

 

It's not a matter of liking or not liking it, I think it's more that the song's message has potential of being harmful and probably best to leave off of public radio.  I wouldn't want it to be legislated, it'd be a decision for each radio station to make still.

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Spotify gave me my most listened to songs of the year and it’s a little concerning...

 

1. Nothing is Ever Anyone’s Fault - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

2. Every Breath - Gungor

3. White Man - Gungor

4. Vapor - The Liturgists

5. Mamma Mia - Lily James

6. New Year’s Day - Taylor Swift

7. May You Find a Light - The Brilliance

8. Same Drugs - Chance the Rapper

9. Truth - Ramin Djwadi

10. Full Moon Through Clouds - On Earth

11. Visions of Gideon - Sufjan Stevens

12. Let’s Have Intercourse - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

13. Ashes - Celine Dion

14. Ancient Skies - Gungor

15. Beautiful Things - Gungor

16. Mamma Mia - ABBA

17. Many Mothers - Junkie XL

18. Shallow - Lady Gaga

19. Buckskin Stallion Blues - Townes Van Zandt

20. Redbone - Childish Gambino

21. Winter is Here - Ramin Djwadi

22. Lost - On Earth

23. Solvieg’s Song - Edvard Grieg

24. Settle For Me - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

25. Mystery of Love - Sufjan Stevens

26. Blessings - Chance the Rapper

27. Hurt - Johnny Cash

28. Honey, Honey - Amanda Seyfried

29. Crooked Ways - Propaganda

30. Oceans - Hillsong

31. The Man Who Has Everything - Chance the Rapper

32. Cold Showers - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

33. A Waltz for a Night - Julie Delpy

34. Wait For It - Hamilton

35. Precious Puritans - Propaganda

36. See The Love - The Brilliance

37. Take Me Home, Country Roads - John Denver

38. West Covina - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

39. Dancing Queen - ABBA

40. Gangland - Lacrae

41. All the Stars - Kendrick Lamar

42. May it Be - Enya

43. Lily’s Theme - Alexandre Desplat

44. Summertime Magic - Childish Gambino

45. Death and Dignity - Sufjan Stevens

46. You - Gungor

47. Light - Gungor

48. Pray for Me - Kendrick Lamar

49. The Jedi Steps and Finale - John Williams

50. I Have Friends - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

51. Super Trouper - Cher

52. Mozart Symphony No 40 - Yehudi Menuhin

53. Simplicity - Rend Collective

54. Red - Taylor Swift

55. How Can I Keep From Singing - Audrey Assad

56. Made Straight - Propaganda

57. Father’s World (Live) - Gungor

58. The Great Homesickness - Gungor

59. Hit the Road Jack - Casey Abrams

60. Mercy - The Brilliance

61. Heart in Hand Overture - Christy Nuckols

62. It was a Shitshow - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

63. The Rose - Ola Gjeilo

64. Be Thou My Vision - Elenyi

65. Ain’t No Rest For the Wicked - Cage the Elephant

66. You Belong With Me - Taylor Swift

67. This is America - Childish Gambino

68. Crags and Clay - Gungor

69. Still Hurting - Anna Kendrick

70. God Our Mother - The Liturgists

71. Footloose - Kenny Loggins

72. Let There Be - Gungor

73. Tears of Joy - Michael Giacchino

74. Porch - Alan Silvestri

75. Redemption - Junkie XL

76. Garden - The Liturgists

77. Piano Sonata No 11 - Wolfgang Mozart

78. Two Turtle Doves - Alana Henderson

79. Dry Bones (live) - Gungor

80. Lion of Rock - Gungor

81. Windy - The Association

82. The Carnival of Animals - Camille Saint-Saens

83. Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash

84. I’ve Got My Head in the Clouds - Crazy Ex Girlfriend

85. The Steward of Gondor - Howard Shore

86. Across the Vast Eternal Sky - Ola Gjeilo

87. I Get Overwhelmed

88. Dona Nobis Pacem: The Angel of Death... - Ralph Vaughn Williams

89. Raiders March - John Williams

90. We Will Run - Gungor

91. A Song for My Family - Gungor

92. Another Day of Sun - La La Land Cast

93. The Wicked Flee - Carter Burwell

94. How Great - Chance the Rapper

95. The Sound of Music - Julie Andrews

96. The Lake Isle - Ola Gjeilo

97. Over the Rainbow - July Garland

98. Prisoners - John Denver

99. Sober - Childish Gambino

100. Oh, Dreamer - The Brilliance

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1 hour ago, filmlover said:

This Kevin Hart thing is getting worse: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kevin-hart-breaks-silence-anti-gay-tweet-controversy-1167258

 

and now he just posted this on Instagram:

 

So...any guesses as to who the next Oscar host is gonna really be?

That was fast:

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kevin-hart-steps-down-as-oscars-host-1167336

 

They got a host and lost a host in just two days. This is an even bigger debacle than the Brett Ratner thing several years ago.

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44 minutes ago, filmlover said:

That was fast:

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kevin-hart-steps-down-as-oscars-host-1167336

 

They got a host and lost a host in just two days. This is an even bigger debacle than the Brett Ratner thing several years ago.

Soon  people will loose (are already loosing) positions because their random connected object heard forbidden words you are not supposed to say according to the Scriptures of the New Puritans.

These people will devour each other while I grab more pop corn.

 

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6 hours ago, filmlover said:

That was fast:

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kevin-hart-steps-down-as-oscars-host-1167336

 

They got a host and lost a host in just two days. This is an even bigger debacle than the Brett Ratner thing several years ago.

Just get ellen back and call it a day.

 

 

She is one of the few comedians that checks all the sjw boxes but is still well liked by the broader public and is actually a good host

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6 hours ago, PANDA said:

Spotify gave me my most listened to songs of the year and it’s a little concerning...

 

1. Nothing is Ever Anyone’s Fault - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

2. Every Breath - Gungor

3. White Man - Gungor

4. Vapor - The Liturgists

5. Mamma Mia - Lily James

6. New Year’s Day - Taylor Swift

7. May You Find a Light - The Brilliance

8. Same Drugs - Chance the Rapper

9. Truth - Ramin Djwadi

10. Full Moon Through Clouds - On Earth

11. Visions of Gideon - Sufjan Stevens

12. Let’s Have Intercourse - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

13. Ashes - Celine Dion

14. Ancient Skies - Gungor

15. Beautiful Things - Gungor

16. Mamma Mia - ABBA

17. Many Mothers - Junkie XL

18. Shallow - Lady Gaga

19. Buckskin Stallion Blues - Townes Van Zandt

20. Redbone - Childish Gambino

21. Winter is Here - Ramin Djwadi

22. Lost - On Earth

23. Solvieg’s Song - Edvard Grieg

24. Settle For Me - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

25. Mystery of Love - Sufjan Stevens

26. Blessings - Chance the Rapper

27. Hurt - Johnny Cash

28. Honey, Honey - Amanda Seyfried

29. Crooked Ways - Propaganda

30. Oceans - Hillsong

31. The Man Who Has Everything - Chance the Rapper

32. Cold Showers - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

33. A Waltz for a Night - Julie Delpy

34. Wait For It - Hamilton

35. Precious Puritans - Propaganda

36. See The Love - The Brilliance

37. Take Me Home, Country Roads - John Denver

38. West Covina - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

39. Dancing Queen - ABBA

40. Gangland - Lacrae

41. All the Stars - Kendrick Lamar

42. May it Be - Enya

43. Lily’s Theme - Alexandre Desplat

44. Summertime Magic - Childish Gambino

45. Death and Dignity - Sufjan Stevens

46. You - Gungor

47. Light - Gungor

48. Pray for Me - Kendrick Lamar

49. The Jedi Steps and Finale - John Williams

50. I Have Friends - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

51. Super Trouper - Cher

52. Mozart Symphony No 40 - Yehudi Menuhin

53. Simplicity - Rend Collective

54. Red - Taylor Swift

55. How Can I Keep From Singing - Audrey Assad

56. Made Straight - Propaganda

57. Father’s World (Live) - Gungor

58. The Great Homesickness - Gungor

59. Hit the Road Jack - Casey Abrams

60. Mercy - The Brilliance

61. Heart in Hand Overture - Christy Nuckols

62. It was a Shitshow - Crazy Ex Girlfriend Cast

63. The Rose - Ola Gjeilo

64. Be Thou My Vision - Elenyi

65. Ain’t No Rest For the Wicked - Cage the Elephant

66. You Belong With Me - Taylor Swift

67. This is America - Childish Gambino

68. Crags and Clay - Gungor

69. Still Hurting - Anna Kendrick

70. God Our Mother - The Liturgists

71. Footloose - Kenny Loggins

72. Let There Be - Gungor

73. Tears of Joy - Michael Giacchino

74. Porch - Alan Silvestri

75. Redemption - Junkie XL

76. Garden - The Liturgists

77. Piano Sonata No 11 - Wolfgang Mozart

78. Two Turtle Doves - Alana Henderson

79. Dry Bones (live) - Gungor

80. Lion of Rock - Gungor

81. Windy - The Association

82. The Carnival of Animals - Camille Saint-Saens

83. Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash

84. I’ve Got My Head in the Clouds - Crazy Ex Girlfriend

85. The Steward of Gondor - Howard Shore

86. Across the Vast Eternal Sky - Ola Gjeilo

87. I Get Overwhelmed

88. Dona Nobis Pacem: The Angel of Death... - Ralph Vaughn Williams

89. Raiders March - John Williams

90. We Will Run - Gungor

91. A Song for My Family - Gungor

92. Another Day of Sun - La La Land Cast

93. The Wicked Flee - Carter Burwell

94. How Great - Chance the Rapper

95. The Sound of Music - Julie Andrews

96. The Lake Isle - Ola Gjeilo

97. Over the Rainbow - July Garland

98. Prisoners - John Denver

99. Sober - Childish Gambino

100. Oh, Dreamer - The Brilliance

What i find hillarious as asociety

 

"Goes on twitter and celebrates banning baby its cold outside."

 

"Goes to a club and dances to music that treats womens as bitches sluts and thots."

 

 

Personally listen to whatever song you want personally .

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